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Columbia Student Solidarity Network ^ | 02/06/2002

Posted on 02/05/2002 9:07:27 PM PST by rmlew

title>[cssn] Fw: Gather Together Pro-Choice New York... Pres. Bush is Coming to Town!

[cssn] Fw: Gather Together Pro-Choice New York... Pres. Bush is Coming to Town!

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----- Original Message -----
From: <ppnyc_list@capwiz.mailmanager.net>
To: <ppnyc_list@capwiz.mailmanager.net>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Gather Together Pro-Choice New York... Pres. Bush is Coming to
Town!


> (Please forward)
>
> We've just found out that President Bush is coming to town for a big and
fancy dinner. Let's give him a big NYC welcome!
>
> Gather with other NYC activists to OPPOSE and EXPOSE President Bush's
Anti-Woman Agenda.
>
> WHEN:
> Wednesday, February 6th, 2002
> 5:30 pm - 7:00 pm
>
> WHERE:
> 7th Avenue between 52nd and 53rd Streets
> The event the President will attend is across the street at The Sheraton
Hotel
> (EXACT GATHERING LOCATION TENTATIVE - PENDING PERMIT.  CONFIRMATION TO
FOLLOW)
>
> WHAT TO BRING:  (please bring one or more of the following)
> 1) Your message to OPPOSE and EXPOSE President Bush's Anti-Woman Agenda
(see below for message ideas) on a sign, t-shirt, puppet, balloon, etc.
> 2) Friends
>
> WHY:
> In his State of the Union address, President Bush said:
> "America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human
dignity. [and] respect for women."
>
> But so far he has SAID one thing and DONE another.
>
> Just recently, President Bush:
>
> ¨ Proposed to expand government health insurance to low income fetuses but
not to low income women!
>
> ¨ Proposed to increase funding for abstinence-only-until-marriage
education programs in his budget request to Congress by 33%, for a total of
$135 million!
> (These unproven and unrealistic programs exclude information about
contraception and teach that sexual activity outside marriage is likely to
have harmful psychological and physical effects.)
>
> ¨ Signaled his intention to de-fund the United Nations Population Fund
(UNFPA) by freezing the $34 million budgeted by Congress last year.
President Bush allocated ZERO dollars for UNFPA in his budget request for
next year.
> (UNFPA helps save women's lives by helping them to plan their families and
their futures)
>
> ¨ Attended a major anti-choice rally on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade,
the monumental Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide.
>
> PRESIDENT BUSH's HYPOCRISY MUST BE EXPOSED.
>
> For more information and to tell us you're coming, contact Amy Moy,
Manager of Community Affairs at Planned Parenthood of New York City, at
(212) 274-7377 or via email at amy.moy@ppnyc.org.
>
> MESSAGE IDEAS:
> 1) NYC is Pro-Choice
> 2) I LOVE Pro-Choice N.Y.
> 3) Oppose Pres. Bush's HYPOCRISY DEMOCRACY
> 4) Keep the U.S. out of my uterus
> 5) Reproductive Freedom is a human right
> 6) Reproductive health care for all
> 7) Personhood for Women!
> 8) President Bush: If you cared about Human Dignity, you'd be PRO-CHOICE!
> 9) The right wing cared until I was born
> 10) UNFPA and Family Planning Saves Lives
> 11) JUST SAY NO to Abstinence-Only
> 12) WARNING:  Abstinence-only Education May be Hazardous to Your Health
>
> SIGN-MAKING GATHERING:
> Wednesday, February 6th, 4:00 - 5:00 pm, PPNYC 26 Bleecker St. (entrance
on Mott between Bleecker and Houston)
>
_________________________________________________________________


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To: He Rides A White Horse
I look at those pictures and it makes me ill. Spiritually and physically. The fact that people have become so cold and callous that they can defend such things........it's really terrible.

Yes sir. This is true. And ignore tpaine's petty insults; what you have said on this thread is 100% true.

201 posted on 02/06/2002 11:38:06 PM PST by J.R.R. Tolkien
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To: OWK;Kevin Curry;Free Tally;mhgintn;alabama wild man
From Tpaine, on this thread, post #193: Abortion is a moral dilemma, and the USSC applied constitutional, legal, logic to it.

Gentlemen, care to refute this endorsement of the USSC's "Constitutional, legal, logic" in Roe VS. Wade et al?

202 posted on 02/06/2002 11:42:52 PM PST by J.R.R. Tolkien
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien; yall
You claim the USSC made it up? -- Post your proof.

Ya all call me silly names, I call you worse.
Thats tit for tat, -- just self defense, not anger.

203 posted on 02/06/2002 11:57:10 PM PST by tpaine
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
'Petty' insults for petty people with petty ideas.
204 posted on 02/06/2002 11:59:56 PM PST by tpaine
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
Need help?

Maybe if you used a bigger font you would look even more petty.

205 posted on 02/07/2002 12:03:53 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Obviously, your mother is the one who made a mistake, imo.

ROFL...Gosh, you come in here spewing logic and constitution, then you irrationally insult people who disagree with you.

"Jane you ignorant slut"...or what was that quote? When you are trapped you insult. LOL

In all seriousness, isn't it great my mother didn't abort me? I'm a great person. You should get to know me. I'm loved and adored by many. And I'm so glad my mother gave me a chance to breath fresh air, smell my antique roses, and kiss my children everday. It's really such a shame 40,000,000 people will never get that chance to see this beautiful world, or fall in love, and have children of their own.

206 posted on 02/07/2002 3:30:39 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: tpaine
You are the freaky sicko, not me.

Well, I look at the picture in post #36 and conclude that you are the freaky sicko.......and I'll call you evil also. Because you are if you can look at that and still rationalize it.

People like you are a danger, because if you can kill a child like that, you can kill anybody.

207 posted on 02/07/2002 4:57:43 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: bjcintennessee
This is so much better than waiting until the cells have multiplied and formed, only to be ripped apart after four months of development.

Killing is killing. Which part of "Thou Shalt Not Kill" do you not understand?

It is not "natural" to use synthetic hormones to destroy the normal endometrial lining of the uterus, thus making it a toxic wasteland.

208 posted on 02/07/2002 4:59:33 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: tpaine
And you can tell that to the white horse you imagine you rode in on.

I'm not the rider on the white horse. You can tell Him when the time comes. Good luck. You'll need it.

209 posted on 02/07/2002 5:01:03 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
I have been in this discussion with tpaine before. Although I disagree with his position, I respect his views. We simply disgaree on interpretations of the Constitution, I guess.
210 posted on 02/07/2002 5:32:06 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: mafree
bump

you have freepmail :o)

211 posted on 02/07/2002 6:27:57 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: SpookBrat
big bump
212 posted on 02/07/2002 6:30:22 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: SpookBrat;brad's gramma
proof the death squad are cowards.
213 posted on 02/07/2002 6:31:46 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
You know what I say? I say anybody that looks at post #35 and calls it choice is more than just a coward, they are somebody who deliberately choose evil. Beyond any shadow of a reasonable doubt.

Truth bump!

Shalom.

214 posted on 02/07/2002 6:55:19 AM PST by ArGee
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To: SpookBrat; Rainmaker; tpaine; J.R.R. Tolkien; mafree; Brad's Gramma; JMJ333...
Bumping your excellent post. :)

Hi Spookbrat, you mean this one? :o) I noticed rainmaker never responded to it. I also appreciated yours #107!!! Mutual appreciation for your words.

BTW, tpaines would be akin to saying that we can KILL someone who is sucking our life savings dry,. because it is our life and our body!!! (sorry tpaine, but your analogy could really go that far!! IMHO)

REPOSTING my earlier post for those who missed it, ignored it, or are interested. Here is what I had said:

Another woman here who will step up to the bat!!

If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant.. why does she??

There are even free Birth Control clinics at most County Departments of Public Health. To much trouble to go get on the pill?? Might gain weight? Trojans to much hassle??

I've worked Maternity,..and I can assure you that a 6 week old fetus..is a baby!!! (So is a 1 week old fetus) (I believe it starts from conception!!) People really DO need to LOOK at the pics of aborted or spontaneously aborted babies. Then they will understand (hopefully).

I also had the horror of working for a Public Health Dept in California. I quit!!!

Young women were honest to God using abortion as a means of birth control!! In the 4 months I lasted in that environment as a supervisor over the clinic. I witnessed one young lady get two abortions. Upon looking at her chart.. it was obvious this was her means of BC.

Furthermore.. Partial Birth Abortion defies logic. How can it be harmful to a womans life to deliver,.. then they deliver vaginally to have a full term (at times) child killed while its arms and legs dangle from between the mothers legs?? They deliver a viable human being who could survive outside of the womb.. they deliver BREACH no less, which is by far harder than a normal delivery (head first). So explain that one to me??

In no way does it ever save a womans life. Other than from the economical and social responsibilities they would face had they not murdered the child.

Do you need any further clarification?? I'd be happy to enlighten you.

Vets_Husband_and_Wife

You might also want to read mafree's post #192, and hard though it might be,.. look at the pics on #35.

215 posted on 02/07/2002 10:37:22 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife; yall
BTW, tpaines would be akin to saying that we can KILL someone who is sucking our life savings dry,. because it is our life and our body!!! (sorry tpaine, but your analogy could really go that far!! IMHO)

The above is gibberish, as written.
What analogy? -- Which post? --- Make a rebuttal, referenced to what I actually posted, or look as irrational as the other bashers here.

Lets see if you truely have an 'honest opinion'.

216 posted on 02/07/2002 11:17:58 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks, Vet's Wife, for your most excellent re-posting of your earlier most excellent post. Great comments!

I firmly believe in protecting a woman's reproductive rights. With all respect to my Catholic friends (I know we do not agree on this), I believe that every woman has the right to control whether she is able to conceive by whatever means -- pill, condom or diaphram, even abstainance (there's a concept!). But once conception has taken place, the rights of the new life is at least equal to the life of the woman.

While a woman has every right to control her own body, the growing child within her is NOT an appendage of her body, regardless of the popular myth (i.e., "lie") to the contrary.

Abortion for convenience is a blight upon our nation, and like slavery before it, abortion eats at the character of our nation. I think a link can be made between the liberalization of abortion and the rise in "disposable marriages," and child abuse. When greedy self-interest at the expense of the rights of others becomes "constitutionally protected," should we wonder why spouses can be tossed aside, and children can be beaten senseless? Roe vs. Wade will one day collapse under the weight of its own illogic -- it was a terrible decision, not only morally, but in a legal sense. The sooner the better.

BTW, Mary Ann, I noted with interest the "horror" you had of working in the public health arena. I attended a work group yesterday made up primarily of public health advocates, and I have to say that individually, each is a fine individual, but collectively, they are parasites.

217 posted on 02/07/2002 11:22:19 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: proud2bRC
Very good point: "Killing is killing." It's so simple, only the blind cannot see it!

Forgotten by the pro-aborts is that fact that abortion KILLS something, it ends a life. What is that something? If it is not human life, what is it?

218 posted on 02/07/2002 11:26:39 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: rmlew
'A rat is a dog is a pig is a feminist'.

(With profound apologies to rats, dogs and pigs...)

219 posted on 02/07/2002 11:39:43 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks- I meant to ping folks but got distracted.
220 posted on 02/07/2002 1:13:00 PM PST by mafree
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