commies and Leftie Women groups to protest Bush 2/6

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[rmlew]

title>[cssn] Fw: Gather Together Pro-Choice New York... Pres. Bush is Coming to Town!

[cssn] Fw: Gather Together Pro-Choice New York... Pres. Bush is Coming to Town!

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----- Original Message -----
From: <ppnyc_list@capwiz.mailmanager.net>
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Gather Together Pro-Choice New York... Pres. Bush is Coming to
Town!


> (Please forward)
>
> We've just found out that President Bush is coming to town for a big and
fancy dinner. Let's give him a big NYC welcome!
>
> Gather with other NYC activists to OPPOSE and EXPOSE President Bush's
Anti-Woman Agenda.
>
> WHEN:
> Wednesday, February 6th, 2002
> 5:30 pm - 7:00 pm
>
> WHERE:
> 7th Avenue between 52nd and 53rd Streets
> The event the President will attend is across the street at The Sheraton
Hotel
> (EXACT GATHERING LOCATION TENTATIVE - PENDING PERMIT.  CONFIRMATION TO
FOLLOW)
>
> WHAT TO BRING:  (please bring one or more of the following)
> 1) Your message to OPPOSE and EXPOSE President Bush's Anti-Woman Agenda
(see below for message ideas) on a sign, t-shirt, puppet, balloon, etc.
> 2) Friends
>
> WHY:
> In his State of the Union address, President Bush said:
> "America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human
dignity. [and] respect for women."
>
> But so far he has SAID one thing and DONE another.
>
> Just recently, President Bush:
>
> ¨ Proposed to expand government health insurance to low income fetuses but
not to low income women!
>
> ¨ Proposed to increase funding for abstinence-only-until-marriage
education programs in his budget request to Congress by 33%, for a total of
$135 million!
> (These unproven and unrealistic programs exclude information about
contraception and teach that sexual activity outside marriage is likely to
have harmful psychological and physical effects.)
>
> ¨ Signaled his intention to de-fund the United Nations Population Fund
(UNFPA) by freezing the $34 million budgeted by Congress last year.
President Bush allocated ZERO dollars for UNFPA in his budget request for
next year.
> (UNFPA helps save women's lives by helping them to plan their families and
their futures)
>
> ¨ Attended a major anti-choice rally on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade,
the monumental Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide.
>
> PRESIDENT BUSH's HYPOCRISY MUST BE EXPOSED.
>
> For more information and to tell us you're coming, contact Amy Moy,
Manager of Community Affairs at Planned Parenthood of New York City, at
(212) 274-7377 or via email at amy.moy@ppnyc.org.
>
> MESSAGE IDEAS:
> 1) NYC is Pro-Choice
> 2) I LOVE Pro-Choice N.Y.
> 3) Oppose Pres. Bush's HYPOCRISY DEMOCRACY
> 4) Keep the U.S. out of my uterus
> 5) Reproductive Freedom is a human right
> 6) Reproductive health care for all
> 7) Personhood for Women!
> 8) President Bush: If you cared about Human Dignity, you'd be PRO-CHOICE!
> 9) The right wing cared until I was born
> 10) UNFPA and Family Planning Saves Lives
> 11) JUST SAY NO to Abstinence-Only
> 12) WARNING:  Abstinence-only Education May be Hazardous to Your Health
>
> SIGN-MAKING GATHERING:
> Wednesday, February 6th, 4:00 - 5:00 pm, PPNYC 26 Bleecker St. (entrance
on Mott between Bleecker and Houston)
>
_________________________________________________________________

[J.R.R. Tolkien]

You know what I say? I say anybody that looks at post #35 and calls it choice is more than just a coward, they are somebody who deliberately choose evil. Beyond any shadow of a reasonable doubt.

I agree 100%.

[He Rides A White Horse]

I look at those pictures and it makes me ill. Spiritually and physically. The fact that people have become so cold and callous that they can defend such things........it's really terrible.

[J.R.R. Tolkien]

Here's a better one for you: a live, unaborted infant, sleeping quite peacefully. I love the self-satified smirk on the baby's face, like she owns the world...no one can have a greater mission than to impart that kind of happiness upon an innocent little one.

[SpookBrat]

Horse puckey! I made the point I'm a male and have no right in determining a female's conscience. You want a dictatorship, your in the wrong country!

Sir, I disagree with you. I hold the opinion that murdering your child within your own womb is a form of dictatorship. Here in our Republic, we have certain constitutional rights. One of those is due process...a fair and speedy trial of which to determine guilt or innocence based on the evidence. Here in Texas, we put a lot of people to death, after a fair trial, after being judged guilty by a jury of their peers.

A baby is innocent and has committed no crime. They have no fair trial. They have no trial at all. And yet they receive a death sentence, handed down by the mother, a dictator who can decide life or death depending on her mood. Just as history's Kings, Queens and other dictators had the right to decide life or death. People came to this country because they had no human rights in their own countries. They lacked human rights under dictatorships. These rights being the right to life, liberty and the right to pursue happiness.

Is it morally acceptable to put an innocent human being to death on Texas death row? If this person did nothing wrong, and we knew this, could we morally put them to death and still be considered a civilized people?

If you impregnate a woman, you have no say over your child’s life or death status. She has complete dictatorial rights over her life, her child’s life and your life. You approve of a law that could affect your life so negatively? You would allow a woman to dictate a part of your life?

I think you would change your mind about abortion if you would educate yourself on who are getting abortions and why. The reasons are not what you think they are or what you naively argue for. It’s rarely about her right to control her body. It’s almost always about a terrified, confused young woman in search of a desperate, immediate fix to a crisis pregnancy. Women who don’t want abortions are getting them because they have been abandoned by boy friends and are scared to death. Or they are strongly pressured by boyfriends or parents. This is not about “right to control her own body”. This is not about choice. It’s an act of desperation and self-mutilation, not about choice. Are you aware that almost 90% of post aborted women suffer tremendously from some form of post trauma? Why was it about choice before the abortion but then becomes something to regret and mourn afterwards?

[SpookBrat]

Bumping your excellent post. :)

[SpookBrat]

You are only displaying your inablity to understand the principles of living in a constitutional free republic

No actually Sir, you are displaying your inability to understand principles of civilized living, of what's alive and what's not. A baby is not fecal matter, in need of "private" removal.

Aren't you glad your mother didn't "privately" have you removed?

[SpookBrat]

You sit at home, and worry. while I preserve your ungrateful freedoms

I think this was an ungrateful statement for you to make. Every single Freeper here prays for you every single day and for every other person defending our freedoms. You should be more grateful of our support and not take it for granted. We love you!!!!!

You are fighting for our freedoms and we are fighting for innocent children's freedom. Lets shake on that and make nice. :) You will see it our way in the future. I know you will. Keep reading these threads and you will change your mind, I know.

[SpookBrat]

Golly Gee Gram's...isn't it extremely odd that no pro-baby choppers showed up on this thread. I told you they would show up on a more easily debated thread. HA! They are chicken dookie! They can’t defend dismembering a child when they look it right in the face. They have to be chicken doodoo about it and wait for an easier thread. AMAZING.....and oh so predictable. I told you so! I'm going to have to start charging for my predictions. I RULE!!!

[bjcintennessee]

Does the morning after pill prevent pregnancy or cause abortion?

It is often nature's way for cells to join and not attach to the womb without outside assistance. We do not consider this a miscarriage or even lable it an abortion. Most likely the woman never knew that she was 'almost' pregnant.

So why not assist nature and avoid an unwanted pregnancy during those first three days when we are talking about two microscopic cells that the body might have expelled naturally. This is so much better than waiting until the cells have multiplied and formed, only to be ripped apart after four months of development.

[tpaine]

Tell it to a jury of your peers, using due process.

[rmlew]

Tell it to a jury of your peers, using due process.

For that to occur, abortions would have to be criminal.

[mafree]

I gotta have a whack at these:

1) NYC is Pro-Choice

What about the part of NYC that is Pro-Life?

2) I LOVE Pro-Choice N.Y.

If your mother loved pro-choice NY you may not have made it here.

3) Oppose Pres. Bush's HYPOCRISY DEMOCRACY

Oppose NOW's hypocrisy facism.

4) Keep the U.S. out of my uterus

Keep the US out of my gun closet.

5) Reproductive Freedom is a human right.

Reproductive freedom is a personal responsibilty.

6) Reproductive health care for all

What's Reproductive about murder?

7) Personhood for Women!

Personhood for Unborn Women!

8) President Bush: If you cared about Human Dignity, you'd be PRO-CHOICE!

Pro-aborts: If you cared about human dignity you'd be PRO-LIFE.

9) The right wing cared until I was born

The left wing didn't care until I was born and I'm not sure they still do since I'm not a Dummycrat.

10) UNFPA and Family Planning Saves Lives

Except those of unborn babies.

11) JUST SAY NO to Abstinence-Only

Just say no to screwing anything in pants.

12) WARNING: Abstinence-only Education May be Hazardous to Your Health

WARNING: Abstinence-only education may save your life.

[tpaine]

The USSC said that states can't prosecute abortion as murder till there is a viable victim, a baby.

The USSC invented a right to murder out of thin air, your compartmentalizing aside.

I'm 'compartmentalizing' nothing. -- Read the courts decisions, and refute their logic.

Abortion is a moral dilemma, and the USSC applied constitutional, legal, logic to it.

Can you come up with a better legal solution? NO one has yet.
-- Until you do, learn to live with the constitutional one.

[tpaine]

I'm no 'threat' to anyone.

And you can tell that to the white horse you imagine you rode in on.

[tpaine]

You are the freaky sicko, not me.

[tpaine]

Evil? -- Stuff it.

[tpaine]

Obviously, your mother is the one who made a mistake, imo.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Wow, I come home to all of this.....now I wish I would have stayed away.

tpaine, what in the name of Heavens are you so mad at? God? What has He ever done to you to make you this bitter? I suggest you get right with Him before it's too late. Wowowow. I'll be praying for your salvation.

OWK, you pray. Seek God with all your heart and He WILL answer you. Just be careful that you're not mocking him, OK? You too, I'll be praying for. I appreciate that you haven't gotten nasty (I think..) on this thread.

Rain-maker, thank you for your service to America. What I don't get, I honestly don't, is since you've seen the worst of the worse, I imagine (if you've been on the front lines) is ... how can you liken an innocent baby in his/her mother's womb to Osama and his ilk? Those people deliberatly did what they did and deserve to die. WHAT has an innocent baby done? Can you PLEASE answer that????

The rest of you....continue to fight the good fight. SpookBrat, you may THINK you rule, but homeschool mama conceded to me last night that I am the QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

And now, to all the people who can't see the forest for the trees.....you are all, in my opinion.....

[JMJ333]

OWK is an atheist, so he won't be seeking God anytime soon, unless he gets zapped in the butt by lightening. =)

tpaine is indeed angry, but hey...I'm angry too. Totally peeved that I post pictures of the reality of abortion and I can't get the relativists to admit that slaughtering innocent humans is morally wrong. Heck--you don't have to believe in God to see the forrest for the trees!

[J.R.R. Tolkien]

Abortion is a moral dilemma, and the USSC applied constitutional, legal, logic to it.

The USSC legislated from the bench. They did not apply the Constitution, they made stuff up...in Roe, Doe, Danforth, Webster, Casey, and Carhart. Quote a single "Constitutional" rational from any of those decisions and I'll explain to you why it's bogus.