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Big Bonuses for Clinton Execs
Fox News ^ | 1/23/02 | AP

Posted on 01/23/2002 5:40:30 AM PST by mgist

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Miss Marple
"President Bush cannot fire them, by LAW, unless he provides a documented record of malfeasance."

Thanks, MissM.
I sincerely didn't know that; so, I learned something.
Which to your credit, isn't bad. ;^)
*Not* an easy thing to do, y'know.

"This list of bonuses is probably the first step in building a case, but it is going to take years to get rid of the Clinton lackies that were switched to Civil Service jobs as yet another landmine for the President."

Yea.
Of course, you're correct.
Again.

I'm just so damned frustrated because you know what?
The Clintigulan mosaic is beginning to form.
With that image, an undersatnding & insight may be gained of not what he did.
We've all witness, and suffered that part.
But for me?
I finally at long last actually see an important facet of how the theif managed to pull off some of the more subtle aspects of the, "Machine."

...& see, without the use of a tinfoil hat, mind you.

41 posted on 01/23/2002 6:27:02 AM PST by Landru
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To: Miss Marple
If you will read the statement again, you will see that they are CIVIL SERVICE executives. President Bush cannot fire them, by LAW, unless he provides a documented record of malfeasance.

As I recall, nearly every department in the Toon administration had enough unaccounted for funds to balance the deficit between them. That's not only malfeasance--it's most likely criminal. Being able to account for every penny they spend should be the first prerequisite to any department getting bonuses.

42 posted on 01/23/2002 6:33:14 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
BTW, have you seen this? I haven't pinged any of the old gang. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/612842/posts
43 posted on 01/23/2002 6:46:09 AM PST by wattsmag2
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To: Lion's Cub
As I recall, nearly every department in the Toon administration had enough unaccounted for funds to balance the deficit between them. That's not only malfeasance--it's most likely criminal. Being able to account for every penny they spend should be the first prerequisite to any department getting bonuses.

You are correct, however, I have seen not one piece of evidence that anything has or will change under the Bush administration. Bonuses will continue, federal workers continue to get much larger annual raises than the average American worker, agency books continue to be unauditable, no cabinet official has indicated anything but "business as usual" (hasn't Gail Norton been edging close to contempt of court for her stonewalling on the Indian trust fund?).

Sad as it is, and as hopeful as many of us were, nothing will be changed.

44 posted on 01/23/2002 6:54:54 AM PST by jackbill
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To: Landru
It is my personal opinion that from the moment he first took office, Clinton had a detailed plan for dismantling the government and reassembling it in his own fashion. Firing the US attorneys was the first step, and once he accomplished that with no outcry from the press, it was easy to proceed with other actions.

All of that "hard work for the American people" was simply a way to figure out how to entrench his people in the fabric of government, allowing him to control things from afar if Gore was elected, and to cause infinite trouble if Bush won. We can see what he has done, and it is frustrating, to say the least.

These employees are in every department, including Defense. Thanksfully, Rumsfeld has put them on notice that he will look at Pentagon leaks as a federal crime. (You can't do the same thing in EPA or HHS, unfortunately).

Getting Homeland Defense under Tom Ridge was very smart, as it allows him to select members of "task forces" which will operate separately, and the Clintonistas will be shut out. Same thing that O'Neill has done with the raids on terrorist front organizations. You will note that there wasn't a clue about those raids until they took place. Those task forces under O'Neill have been pulled from several organizations, and they operate under tight security.

The Bush people are extrmely smart, and I have confidence that they can work around these people. (Ashcroft's reorganization of Justice is another example of this strategy. I am sure the most rabid Clinton devotees are now investigating cattle rustling in South Dakota or something.)

It takes a great deal of patience and a mind that is pretty good with "strategery", but I do think our guy is up to it.

The other thing we need to work on is defeating the leftist press. I have concluded that tackling them rationally is not going to work. Instead, I would suggest that they be mocked as nerds and dweebs, making them "un-cool." This is not hard to do (look at that crew at the Pentagon press briefing, for example) and given the general public's fascination with all things fashionable, it should be a piece of cake.

45 posted on 01/23/2002 6:58:46 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: mgist
But, but, the dems are not about money. They are for the poor, the old, sick, lame and unable to fend for themselves. They could not have taken this money. Surely it was a mean old republican or conservative.
46 posted on 01/23/2002 7:01:08 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: Angelwood
Pinging Angelwood... Pinging Angelwood...

Clean up in aisle 5...

47 posted on 01/23/2002 7:01:14 AM PST by abner
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To: 1 FELLOW FREEPER
"What the hell are these overpaid, overpensioned sloths getting huge bonuses for."

Well, 1f2?
Don'tcha be telling me you haven't heard the ol' argument it takes executive level salaries in order the federal leviathan retain the, "Best People"???
C'mon neighbor; has to be the fav rationale forwarded just prior to the pols giving themselves a pay raise!!
Well?
This theivery sounds about par to me, then.

..."What's good for the Creep, is good for the Crony"; or, something like that.

(~oy vey)

48 posted on 01/23/2002 7:03:23 AM PST by Landru
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To: MeeknMing
Soooo funny - thanks for the grins.
49 posted on 01/23/2002 7:04:52 AM PST by MaeWest
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To: mgist
I wonder if they all recieved medals for "VALOR" as proposed for the tank drivers in Waco that knocked down the home of the Davidians.
50 posted on 01/23/2002 7:08:05 AM PST by Howie
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To: Landru
And I'd like to know what percentage of them had any education experience to begin with!

Since I've been teaching, I have yet to see a single scrap of paper from the Fed DoE. They have never once helped a single child in either of my schools learn a single thing... for their $35B annually. Of course, if they ever read this, their insipid and convoluted solution would be to try to do MORE (unConstitutionally) for education at the Federal level.

51 posted on 01/23/2002 7:11:08 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: tom paine 2
Good point. Never seen that before.
52 posted on 01/23/2002 7:12:11 AM PST by daler
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
I keep telling everybody Bush Loves the Clinton people, in fact most are still in place and he appointed John Magaw to head the travel security, a super liberal from the Clinton amin. BUSH is a LIBERAL, just like his Daddy. You can count on him being a one term President, like his daddy.
53 posted on 01/23/2002 7:14:56 AM PST by Texbob
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To: Lion's Cub
As I recall, nearly every department in the Toon administration had enough unaccounted for funds to balance the deficit between them. That's not only malfeasance--it's most likely criminal.

Sounds worse than Enron to me... because we're all mandated to keep investing in this turkey!

54 posted on 01/23/2002 7:15:04 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!
55 posted on 01/23/2002 7:18:04 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: MaeWest
:o)
56 posted on 01/23/2002 7:37:00 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: alamo-Girl
Another sad chapter to a book that never seems to end.
57 posted on 01/23/2002 7:48:42 AM PST by vannrox
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To: Landru
more like.................OY VEY !!!!
58 posted on 01/23/2002 7:48:46 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: Miss Marple
"It is my personal opinion that from the moment he first took office, Clinton had a detailed plan for dismantling the government and reassembling it in his own fashion. Firing the US attorneys was the first step, and once he accomplished that with no outcry from the press, it was easy to proceed with other actions."

Sharp as a tack; aren'tcha?
I'm not saying that because you've articulated exactly my take on the creep & his modus operandi, either.
The only part of what you'd said above I might take a *mild* exception to; fwiw?
I'm convinced the only thing Clink waited on, with respect to seeing what our damnedable Lamestream was going to do?
Which (to me) merely contributed to delaying the Clintigual Administration from acting sooner, bolder than they had?
Was the time LAG it took between just *how* his Lamestream pals (=NYT/WAP/AJ&C/LAT and AP et al) were going to, "frame" all the baloney he'd planned, & the time when he made his move(s) to implement said plan.
IMO: Lamestream's problem was *how* they were going to spin Clink to be forevermore thought of as, "The Greatest POTUS of the 20th Century;" while they diverted any rational person's attention away from the salient point(s) of his illegal &/or immoral action(s).

It is my steadfast opin Clintigula had, and still enjoys the Leftist-skewed Lamestream in his front pocket.
Clink's an America-hating coward & thief; the quinessential Democrat, if you will?
While the media on the other hand??
Simply the garden-variety pedestrian-grade America-hating Socialists.
~Was a, "Marriage Made In Hell" bringing the two entities together so they could work in tandem.

Problem is, MissM?
Not everyone was asleep, & there were even a few of us who would not permit ourselves to be bought.
But not only do I digress; I'm certainly preaching to the chorus saying these things to you.

"All of that 'hard work for the American people' was simply a way to figure out how to entrench his people in the fabric of government, allowing him to control things from afar if Gore was elected, and to cause infinite trouble if Bush won. We can see what he has done, and it is frustrating, to say the least."

Yes, yes, and yes absolutely.

"These employees are in every department, including Defense. Thanksfully, Rumsfeld has put them on notice that he will look at Pentagon leaks as a federal crime. (You can't do the same thing in EPA or HHS, unfortunately)."

Uh-huh; & tell me?
Did you just happen to hear *how* ABC Radio has begun to, "Frame" the growing-in-popularity-by-leaps-&-bounds Rummy Rumsfeld?
Yea...it took the Lamestream a while to noodle-out their attack; but, they've a plan now & I heard it with my own ears just yesterday, too.
Rummy's a NO-NONSENSE guy; the public LOVES 'em, too.
A straight-shooter who'll get in your Leftist-face if a fast-one's pulled?
So ABC Radio opens with, "An obviously angered Donanald Rumsfeld told reporters today..."
Can ya see it?
Sure ya can...

Attack his strong suit; by making it a negative while providing the opposition a pinion to drive into the crevace should we (media) get *lucky* with the contrived, "Angry-Male" thing & get it to stick?
Same ol', same ol.

"Getting Homeland Defense under Tom Ridge was very smart, as it allows him to select members of 'task forces' which will operate separately, and the Clintonistas will be shut out."

Truth be known?
I hadn't considered that angle a'tall, I'm ashamed to say.
Perhaps I lost the ball somewhere in all the smoke created by the extremely vocal & high profile, "ALL Our Freedoms Are Being Trampled" crowd?
To the Lefists then I say; "Fool me once, your fault, fool me twice my fault."
Just thought it'd be an appropriate time to apply that old country saying. ;^)

"Same thing that O'Neill has done with the raids on terrorist front organizations. You will note that there wasn't a clue about those raids until they took place. Those task forces under O'Neill have been pulled from several organizations, and they operate under tight security."

I believe it.
Yea; no strategically leaked info for the wicked Lamestream to spin & that's a fact.

"The Bush people are extrmely smart, and I have confidence that they can work around these people. (Ashcroft's reorganization of Justice is another example of this strategy. I am sure the most rabid Clinton devotees are now investigating cattle rustling in South Dakota or something.)"

{G} ~yea; no doubt.
I think you're correct; they are smart & have proven as-much a hundred times in the past year, alone.
I pray they continue to stay on TOP of their game, too.
Because as with Rummy?
The Leftist sycophant Lamestream hasn't been asleep; not by a country mile.
The Quislings have been burning the midnight oil measuring this POTUS & his administration's people for a knockout punch; all the while keeping just outa reach of a bone-crushing punch delivered to the end of their Leftist beaks.
Sorry statement to say, but that's my take, nonetheless.

"It takes a great deal of patience and a mind that is pretty good with 'strategery', but I do think our guy is up to it."

I do, also
Dubya wanted the job; so, it's his.
I just pray he holds himself to one of the *promises* he made DasHole when he told 'em, "Never lie to me, or else."
See,s DasHole's got *something* comin' to 'em; from my scorecard. :o)

"The other thing we need to work on is defeating the leftist press. I have concluded that tackling them rationally is not going to work. Instead, I would suggest that they be mocked as nerds and dweebs, making them 'un-cool.' This is not hard to do (look at that crew at the Pentagon press briefing, for example) and given the general public's fascination with all things fashionable, it should be a piece of cake."

HA!!
I understand you don't *know* me, per se; aside from the occaisional ourburts I'm subject to making?
But...ask around on just what my stand on our Media et al *is*.
Now you're preachin', Lady. {g}
Point is well taken, in any event.
Your strategy to point-out these people as, "yesterday's news -- passe'" as it were?
Excellent. Viable. Attainable ~& best of all?
True.

...for the Leftist, the gig's up & they're now in a real dogfight; as I intend taking no prisoners.

59 posted on 01/23/2002 8:07:56 AM PST by Landru
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To: Mudboy Slim
"GOPers must fight back by setting REAL, ACHIEVABLE GOALS for downsizing Federal Spending as a Percentage of Gross Domestic Product from its present All-Time High of 25%+ to LESS THAN 12% of GDP by 2012!!"

Yes; understood, understandable, & necessary!!

"Supporting the present Status Quo is the antithesis of True Conservatism!!"

And moving against corruption & rot so deeply seated in an infestation almost lethal?
Suicide; politcal or otherwise.
Move too quickly & that'd only result in a reflex-action so far to the Left it'd make our heads spin clean-off.

...let's use Leftist startegy on this one, Slim; raise the frog's water to boiling, slowly.

60 posted on 01/23/2002 8:16:17 AM PST by Landru
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