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Help Ensure the 1994 "Assault" Weapon Ban Sunsets
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| 12/29/2001
| gieriscm
Posted on 12/29/2001 5:20:14 PM PST by gieriscm
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Note - I'm looking for ideas that people can do as individuals, or at most in groups of 2-3 people. This effort will not entail forming yet another pro-gun group (I'm a member of many already), simply because fundraising, overhead, administrative stuff, etc. will pull energy and resources away from our primary mission.
Since Freepers are known for their activism, and are more likely than John Q. Public to be willing to work on their own, I'd especially like input from the pro-RKBA people here.
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:20:14 PM PST
by
gieriscm
(SunsetTheBan@aol.com)
To: gieriscm
Please explain further about the "sunset" aspect and what exactly is our, and our "representatives", responsibility.
Eaker
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:25:31 PM PST
by
Eaker
To: marine inspector
Bump to me
To: gieriscm; *bang_list
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To: Eaker
Basically, the parts of the 1994 "crime bill" that make magazines of larger than 10 rounds, "semiautomatic assault weapons" and the like illegal automatically goes away on the date mentioned as long as congress & the pres don't enact a law to extend it or make it permanent.
As this is very close to the most repugnant, unconstitutional, prior restraint piece of garbage ever enacted, we should do whatever we can to ensure that it is not made permanent. The rats, of course, are looking to do just the opposite, with the "assault weapon" re-demonization going on now - HCI/BCPGV included making permanent the ban as part of their "anti-terrorism" recommendations just a week or two ago.
I'm with you, man - lets dump this turkey. Anyone that votes to extend it should be immediately tarred and feathered.
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posted on
12/29/2001 6:09:33 PM PST
by
earlyapex
To: gieriscm
Prices rarely fall -- once folks got used to paying too much, they will continue to. Look at Sterling Silver, as an example -- prices for a 6-piece flatware place settings went from $33 to $160 (with only 5 pieces), and never came down, although the price of silver dropped through the floor.
However, as pessamistic as I may be about prices, I wonder what you have in mind -- particularly considering the AWB was W's daddy's idea. Nothing Bush said during the campaign, or since his election, makes me think he will support sunset.
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posted on
12/29/2001 6:09:37 PM PST
by
womanvet
To: earlyapex
Pity this law isn't due to 'sunset' right now!
With 9/11 fresh in people's minds, I don't think anyone but Chuckie Schumer and 'Little' Dick Gephardt would dare vote to renew.
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posted on
12/29/2001 6:14:58 PM PST
by
Redbob45
To: womanvet
If he re-enacts the ban. He's toast in 2004. Gaurantee it.
To: gieriscm
I think one thing important is to remember what happened to the dems in 1994, after they passed this.
And send lots of letters to Daschale, Lott, Hastert, and Gephardt and ask them not to get this up for a vote.
And we all need to contact our congresscritters on this.
To: Dan from Michigan
Dan,I believe that Calif has it's own version of this ? I was in a independent sporting goods store yesterday talking to the firearms dept and I came away with my blood boiling. There is no way you can keep a hand gun handy without breaking one law or another even when you are out hunting. And don't get caught with one in the car.
To: tubebender
California's is worse. I'm not up to date on it, but they passed a ton of ASD bills.
To: gieriscm
While I sincerely hope this ban gets scrapped in 2004, I have to wonder if it was not a ban on paper only to appease the anti-gun pansies. I've been to many gun shows since the ban was enacted and the only thing I've noticed is that "assault" weapons have dropped in price. Most weapons and magazines are still plentiful. I paid over $400 for my Chinese Mac-90 in '93. Now I see higher quality Romanian models going for $250.
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posted on
12/29/2001 6:32:13 PM PST
by
Drew68
To: Mercuria; AnnaZ; HangFire
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To: womanvet; Kalashnikov_68
Nothing Bush said during the campaign, or since his election, makes me think he will support sunset. If he doensn't support renewing it, then he'll be breaking a campaign promise.
I've been to many gun shows since the ban was enacted and the only thing I've noticed is that "assault" weapons have dropped in price. Most weapons and magazines are still plentiful. I paid over $400 for my Chinese Mac-90 in '93. Now I see higher quality Romanian models going for $250.
Not sure where you've been shopping, but I know that three years ago I paid right at $300 for a Romanian SKS that had been selling for right at $100 prior to September of 1994. Same thing with semi-auto AK-47's. It's a supply and demand thing. The '94 AW ban basically froze the supply on foreign weapons and the price responded accordingly. The same thing has been true of full-auto weapons since 1986. That MP-5 would go for about $1,000 if we could buy one like we do any other long gun. Since we can't, and since no more are allowed into the country, they go for more like $12,000.
To: John R. (Bob) Locke
If he doensn't support renewing it, then he'll be breaking a campaign promise. Sadly, you are correct. I recall Bush saying he supports the ban against "assault" weapons and large capacity magazines.
However,
Wouldn't renewing the ban fall in Ashcroft's hands? He is certainly a stronger supporter of 2A rights than Bush is. Is it conceivable that when the time comes to renew it, Bush would simply take a hands-off approach and let Ashcroft deal with it?
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posted on
12/29/2001 7:51:21 PM PST
by
Drew68
To: glock rocks
To: John R. (Bob) Locke
He's damned if he does though, more than damned if he doesn't.
That said, what needs to be done is to make sure the HOUSE doesn't pass it. The senate is solid anti. The house could stop it.
To: gieriscm
The most significant thing you can do to ensure that the 1994 bill is not renewed in 2004 is to work to get a solid pro-gun majority into Congress.
Contribute, volunteer, join your local pro-gun advocacy groups, get involved.
Letters help. Volunteers manning booths at county fairs help more.
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posted on
12/29/2001 8:06:56 PM PST
by
jdege
To: Kalashnikov_68
Wouldn't renewing the ban fall in Ashcroft's hands? Actually, it's up to the Congress. The law has a final day (Septmeb 13, 2004) after which it is totally invalid. Unless a new bill is passed and signed into law prior to that date, then things revert to pre-94 conditions with respect to the importation and ownership of "assault" weapons by folks like us.
But part of a bill becoming law is the president's signature. And Bush has stated that he will sign such a bill back into law should it cross his desk. That's why the effort needs to be on preventing it from ever getting there, and thus the concentration on the Congress.
To: gieriscm
This will be an interesting issue. If the ban is passed again by a Republican Congress, gun owners will be demoralized and will not support Republican candidates that fall. The result will be big losses for the GOP. If the Democrats pass the ban with just a few Republican traitors helping them, they could face big defeats by angry gunowners. If President Bush signs this bill as he has said that he would, his support will drop dramatically. We must continue to tie gun control to the whole "culture of passivity" that allowed the terrorist attacks of 9/11 to succeed.
WFTR
Bill
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posted on
12/29/2001 10:05:41 PM PST
by
WFTR
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