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Restorationists vs Conservatives and Libertarians
Self | 12/23/01 | David Wright

Posted on 12/23/2001 7:32:51 PM PST by dcwusmc

I am a RESTORATIONIST and I thank FReeper CHUCKSTER for the use of the term. I came to this position as a libertarian but others have come to it via conservatism and liberalism. At its essence the Restorationist philosophy holds that the United States live as part of a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC and that we have strayed FAR from our Constitutional roots. We hold that this situation is untenable to our survival as a nation and that we must restore our Constitution as the SUPREME law of the land. We must go back to our roots or we will DIE as a free nation.

This is NOT an issue of the WOD, though I still oppose it on Constitutional grounds. It is NOT an issue on RKBA though I support it unconditionally on Constitutional grounds. It is an issue of National SURVIVAL.

For those of you who are in favor of the WOD, let's agree that we need to get our Constitution restored FIRST, then we can see if the WOD can ever be Constitutional. First things FIRST, in other words. We must stop politicians and bureaucraps of ALL persuasions from using the Constitution as toilet paper. Hence RESTORATIONIST.

Your comments and suggestions are invited.


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To: TexanaRED
VCR (Veterans for Constitutional Restoration) is going to be educating the public about it. With the response Neil and I had to VCR, it seems to be an idea whose time has been here and we finally realised it!
21 posted on 12/23/2001 8:02:49 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
I join you in your frustrations... The best way to "heal" the GOP is from the inside out.. and I think FReepers are the cure not the bandage...

David

22 posted on 12/23/2001 8:03:20 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: downwithsocialism
Stay with us. We need ideas and input. But we CAN make it happen!
23 posted on 12/23/2001 8:03:52 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!

ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS!!!!

redrock--Constitutional Terrorist

24 posted on 12/23/2001 8:04:04 PM PST by redrock
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To: Neil E. Wright
Here's a RESTORATIONIST bump back to the top!
Sounds good to me. . .BUMP!
25 posted on 12/23/2001 8:05:25 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: dcwusmc
You are definitely on the right track with your suggestion that what is needed is more education about HOW our government works under the U.S. Constitution.

Neil E. Wright has recently hit on the same problem and has suggested the start of an organization called VCR (Veterans for Constitutional Restoration). As I understand it, he is in the process of getting it organized.

I recently sent an e-mail to President Bush wherein I suggested that he urge existing veterans groups (American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, etc.) to employ their fine nationwide network of local posts to advantage of the entire country, mainly by holding weekly sessions open to all adults (including their own members) where discussion and study of the facets of the U.S. Constitution can be covered.

Indeed, our national weakness is known to be the large number of American adults who haven't a clue of how our government should work OR what freedoms our U.S. Constitution protects in various ways.

As is well known, our public officials are supposed to take an "oath of office" before entering upon their duties, BUT how can such a public official live up to his oath "to support the U.S. Constitution" if in fact he has little acquaintance with its content?

I note that you are a former veteran of military service, as I am, and I urge you to proceed with your plan to emphasize and promote our common effort to bring "civics" into greater study, and in this study, more knowledge about our U.S. Constitution.

A year ago, in Sept. 2000, the United Nations was making a strong play to have all nations accept the UN Charter for Global Democracy, and if you look into its facets you will find that this UN document is a far cry from our U.S. Constitution! Try any search engine, and evaluate it for yourself.

More power to your idea that we need to become very familiar with our primary document, the U.S. Constitution.

By the way, with the volume of mail the President gets, you can understand that my e-mail was probably never seen or read by the President; however, the idea matches your definition of our real need, our real problem as a citizenry trying to preserve our envied form of government. Today, even our leaders do a better job of circumventing the checks and balances found in the U.S. Constitution, rather than adhering to its tents. Some of this circumventing may be by true intent; some of it may be by pure ignorance of this document, the envy of freedom-loving people the world over.

26 posted on 12/23/2001 8:06:07 PM PST by expositor
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To: redrock
A BIG roger to Bill of Rights ENFORCEMENT
27 posted on 12/23/2001 8:06:28 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
I once described my own ideas of restorationism in similar terms to a protesting leftist in Boston. He kneejerkedly responded, " Oh! So you want to bring back slavery, oppression of women, child labor, huh?

Jeez, I was stunned 'cause it was such an absurd response; but I later figured out these are the notions that keep the left, left.

So, how would you successfully assuage these fears of socialists so obdurately inclined to think restorationism is a yearning for meaner times?

28 posted on 12/23/2001 8:07:01 PM PST by dasboot
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To: davidosborne; dcwusmc
David's idea is real close to what I had in mind when I chose the handle
Libertarianize the GOP
29 posted on 12/23/2001 8:07:14 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
bump
30 posted on 12/23/2001 8:07:47 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: davidosborne
Oh, I won't give up. I have been trying to educate people for years. A few of them are starting to wake up and as things slip further and further toward socialism, others will wake up. I do get extremely frustrated - especially at those that are fully aware of what is happening, yet do nothing. They won't write a letter, send an email or call their Congresscritter. They say, Well, there is nothing I can do so why bother. If everyone that said that WOULD bother, we would be a force to be reckoned with.

At times, I do get extremely frustrated and wish I was a just a dumb old sheeple again. That lasts until the next thing the Feds do that burns my behind!

31 posted on 12/23/2001 8:08:06 PM PST by TexanaRED
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To: expositor
I am well aware of VCR, as Neil and I founded it. It will fit quite well into a major educational effort that needs to be made NOW!
32 posted on 12/23/2001 8:08:19 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: MeeknMing
and another Restorationist bump from the Restorationist wing of the GOP....

4064 Singatures to END Tyranny..Will you add your name?

33 posted on 12/23/2001 8:08:48 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: dasboot
Hmm, let me think on that, though it seems that the left does NOT want its fears assuaged. It revels in them. Wish I could understand WHY!
34 posted on 12/23/2001 8:10:09 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
For those of you who are in favor of the WOD, let's agree that we need to get our Constitution restored FIRST, then we can see if the WOD can ever be Constitutional

That argument can very easily be turned around to say that let's get this country back to a sense of self reliance, self responsibility and accountability that the Constitution was based upon BEFORE we end the WOD.

35 posted on 12/23/2001 8:10:38 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
That's pretty much the direction I was headed. However, the WOD is NOT germaine to this thread, if you please!
36 posted on 12/23/2001 8:12:11 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Then I join you in battle my friend..

SSG David C. Osborne
4th Plt, 372nd MP CO
Eagle Base, Bosnia
APO AE 09789

Send me a postcard !!

FReegards,

37 posted on 12/23/2001 8:12:37 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: dcwusmc
the very first thing that every politician does before he takes office is 'swear to uphold the u.s. constitution'.

i'd wager that nine out of ten have never read the constitution in it's entirety and have little idea to what they are swearing!

38 posted on 12/23/2001 8:13:34 PM PST by christine
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To: dcwusmc
Okay, this WOD term is new to me. Are we talking Tiger WOD, a radio or TV station, or should one shoot their WOD?

I am on no current medication, so I guess I'm not a disruptor.

39 posted on 12/23/2001 8:14:08 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: dcwusmc
What's WOD? (face reddens)
40 posted on 12/23/2001 8:14:27 PM PST by dasboot
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