Missing evidence from Oklahoma City

Indianapolis Star ^ | November 17, 2001 | JAMES PATTERSON

[OKCSubmariner]

The FBI doesn't want to talk about it, but the evidence keeps mounting.

Critical evidence that several Middle Eastern men may have been connected to the Oklahoma City bombing appears to have been kept from the public by the FBI.

[Eva]

The full lips on the frontal view do not match the lips on the profile view. I am beginning to wonder if there might have been more than one John Doe.

[concerned about politics]

We all know that the impeachment wasn't about sex. The left would protect their criminals in a coverup of OKC in ways that we cannot even begin to imagine. I do believe that the Clintons will eventually be paying for their crimes one way or another.

I hope so. The list is so long, I would love to see them in prison for what they've done. Never before have we ever had such a crimminal element in so much power.
Sure, a few have fallen over the years, but the Clintons, the deadliest, have not.
Makes one wonder what Satan is saving them for.
Scary, isn't it?

[concerned about politics]

He would have gladly swapped a few hundred innocent lives to remain in power for another term or worse avoid impeachment over Waco.

BUMP

[AAABEST]

To: _Jim

Eeesh, you gotta wake that idiot up? All he's gonna do is piss everyone off.

Let him stick to defending under-trained, easily frightened SWAT goons looking for a bags of dope who "accidentally" shoot unarmed residents in their own home.

[livius]

I tend to agree with you, Cicero. But I think it's also an attempt to try to maintain the credibility of the Presidency (nearly destroyed by Our Bill) and trust in the Gov.

This is a worthy goal, but I think we'd all feel better if they admitted the truth. I remember that the first reports from OKC were all about JD#2, a possibly Middle Eastern male, who had been seen with McVeigh. Then these reports disappeared, and it was announced that Nichols (whose only resemblance is his dark hair) was the person being sought.

BillyC wanted this to be domestic terrorism to justify his henchperson Reno's excessive zeal. To some extent, it was domestic; that is, there were Americans who were deeply involved in it. But it came from somewhere else.

I've always thought that the arrogant and sociopathic McVeigh probably didn't reveal anything at the very end because it galled him to know that he had actually been, in the last analysis, used by foreign terrorists and their domestic enabler (fill in the blank).

[Victoria Delsoul]

Two weeks ago, the Justice Department quashed motions to allow 18 FBI agents, including the agent who received the documents from Davis, to testify in Nichols' state case. At least one of those agents believes that if the FBI had followed up on the affidavits that he turned over to his superiors, the Sept. 11 attacks could have been prevented.

Bump.

[aristeides]

But I think it's also an attempt to try to maintain the credibility of the Presidency (nearly destroyed by Our Bill) and trust in the Gov.

Maybe a majority of sheeple are nowhere near admitting to themselves that Clinton was a rapist, murderous traitor. But, for maintaining legitimacy, what matters is not the majority of people, most of whom are quite unpolitical, but the opinion-leaders in communities. I find it hard to believe that the well-informed are still unaware of what a creep Clinton was. Even the blacks seemed on the point of realizing what had been done to Ron Brown back in early '98. They may have chosen to close their eyes since then, out of self-interest, but they are only whatever they are, less than 15% of the population.

The more people realize the truth about Clinton, the more government will maintain its credibility not by concealing the truth about Clinton, but by revealing it, and acting upon it.

[Chemnitz]

The American Spectator did a great story on the other people involved. I hope someone finds it and posts it. I have been amazed at the treatment of OKC and Flight 800. Not to mention WTC.1! The US government and the media betrayed America with their cover-ups and soft approach. Now we are paying for it.

Thank you Clinton, Lady Macbeth, Algore, and Elian's friend, Janet Reno.

[OKCSubmariner]

With respect to replies #23 and #29 references to the "Third Way" globalism and the CIA:

President Bush Jr. believes in and is carrying out the "Third Way" philosophy as also is Tony Blair and did Bill Clinton. All three men are strong proponents and advocates of World GOvernment as part of the "THird Way" philosophy to the detriment of the US and its COnstitutional guarantees.

Perhaps Bush and Clinton's beliefs in carrying out the "Third Way" and implementing world government this is THE MOTIVE behind:

why the ME connection to the OKC bombing has been covered up by both Bush and Clinton administrations

why there are so many Clinton holdovers in the Bush administration(which can be easily replaced without Congressional action)

why the FBI and DOJ and State Department have been protecing Hamas and Hezbollah in the US and faking out the American people and the Israelis

why the CIA may have known about Bin Laden's plans without being stopped

why Bush may have ordered the FBI off investigating the Bin Laden family in the US before 9/11/01

why Bush and AShcroft blocked the info from Schippers and two senior FBI agents on the 9/11 attacks from being acted upon.

why Bush has unilaterally disarmed the US of nuclear weapons and given design and operation details of US missile technology to the Russians and Chinese

For proof of Bush believing in the "Third Way and Communitarianism" see this article

Bush and the 'Third Way'

Constitution/Conservatism News Keywords: COMMUNIST, BUSH

Source: WND [WorldNetDaily.com]

Published: 3 Sept. '01 Author: Joe Farah

Posted on 09/03/2001 02:20:29 PDT by rdavis84

This is the FR link for the WND article which still works:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b934b5d292a.htm

The Farah article from WND refers to another article, a front page news story for the Washington Post dated February 1, 2001:

"Needed: Cathchword for Bush Ideology; 'Communitarianism' Finds Favor" by Dana Milbank, Washington Staff Writer.

Which contains the following statement:

[Communitarianism] "This is the ultimate Third Way", said Don Eberly, an ADVISOR in the Bush WhiteHouse.....

[M. Peach]

Why didn't McVeigh's attorney or Nichol's attorney subpoena the agent or agents in question? Wouldn't Nichol's insist on it?

Why didn't McVeigh or Nichols talk about any of this?

[OKCSubmariner]

Please see reply #52

[OKCSubmariner]

Please see reply #52

[aristeides]

It may well be true that the Dubya White House, in addition to the CIA, the FBI, and the Clinton White House, is guity of complicity in -- or at least turning a blind eye to -- what turned out to be Sept. 11. However, you can't expect perfection in this imperfect, sinful world, and I would be willing to turn a blind eye to the Dubya White House's complicity, provided that the more clearly guilty are punished, and the policy is disavowed.

[_Jim]

The FBI doesn't want to talk about it, but the evidence keeps mounting.

You mean the nut-ball conspircy stuff keeps mounting ...

I'm still waiting for one of you lead nutballs to discount the widespread damage that ocurred in downtown OKC -

- something that no CUTTER CHARGE or CHARGES (ha ha) can account for!

[OKCSubmariner]

BTTT

Please see reply #52 concerning your earlier article post about Bush and the "Third Way".

. Thank you for posting that article which is a vital link that provides a motive for some of Bush's actions.

[rwfromkansas]

I must say I am almost unwilling to see this as a possibiliy. There better be some DAMN good proof of this.

[Sabertooth]

Why didn't McVeigh or Nichols talk about any of this?

It's always been my belief that whatever they were covering up, it was done to protect their families.