Posted on 10/02/2026 10:23:44 AM PDT by ebb tide
The bishop of Raleigh, North Carolina presided over a shamanistic “smudging” ceremony to celebrate St. Catherine “Kateri” Tekakwitha, who rejected her native Mohawk religion.
Pascua Taqui tribe member Richard Duran led the congregation of Holy Cross Catholic Church in Durham in a “smudging” ceremony in July, according to an archived page of North Carolina Catholics, a diocesan publication. Smudging is a shamanic ritual that involves burning herbs and resins to “cleanse” a space of negative energy and “brin(g) in good spirits,” according to a Native American site. The smoke is “shared with people as an act of prayer and spiritual connection,” NC Catholics reported.
“Father David Miller, who is chaplain to the Native American Catholic Community in the diocese and has ancestral ties to the Shawnee, Lenape and Cherokee tribes of his home state of Oklahoma, offered a traditional prayer in the four directions,” the report stated.
The prayer in the four directions is a pagan prayer traditionally understood to be directed to the Creator but also calls upon “spirits” associated with the North, South, East and West.
Ryan Dial of the Lumbee Tribe in North Carolina also introduced three Native traditional dances, performed by his wife, his sister, and another Native American. After lunch, Dial delivered a presentation on “colonization, false dichotomies, native religion and how to become an ally.”
Renée Fisher, African Ancestry Ministry and Evangelization Network (AAMEN) and Native American Church (NAC) administrative assistant, reflected on the meaning of the inculturation and encouraged people to embrace the whole world that surrounds them while also treating traditions with reverence and remaining attuned, for example, to both the Church and Indigenous peoples.
Bishop Luis Rafael Zarama of Raleigh earlier addressed the attendees, joking that he would dance “with his heart and not his body” during the celebration, NC Catholics said.
A flyer for the “multicultural celebration” reads “Sacred Earth, Sacred Unity: Walking Together with St. Kateri Tekakwitha,” and features an image of the saint superimposed on a cross.
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Past starting downhill.
So now you’re defending paganism.
You’re going downhill fast.
Bishop must be drinking too much altar wine.
Good to see a real Catholic countering ebb turd and his/their constant slandering.
We appreciate you, keep up the good fight, knowing that there’s quite a few praying for you!
Doesn’t surprise me. It’s Raleigh.
My first thought was to wonder how different smudging is from incense in church...
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The Catholic Cult has been a Pagan Cult for over 1600 years, so it only makes sense.
“wonder how different smudging is from incense in church...”
Imho if they are directing it at Our Triune God...
Tony, your posts make so little sense, they seem to be blabbing. Please do read a bit before commenting erroneously ok?
Thank you for the prayers.
I really wonder what he is trying to do.
The incredible part is that if one just scratches the surface one can see the errors in his posts
——>The Catholic Cult has been a Pagan Cult for over 1600 years, so it only makes sense.
100% correct. Whether they admit it or not, Catholics profess Christ but follow Satan. They are deeply intrenched in “baptized paganism.”
I’m far from an expert on native American customs but I think smudges uses dried herbs bound in a bundle or burned in a shell.
Afaik this is directed solely toward the Holy Trinity, serving as a cultural symbol of purification before God
Nah, phil, paganism is following the false prophetess Ellen G white who had numerous failed prophecies.
Btw, isn’t it true that your founders alongside Ellen were anti-Trinitarians?
And you Seventh day Adventists believe
1. That Jesus is the angel Michael?
2. That Satan takes on the sins of the world?
3. That Jesus entered the holy of holies only in 1844?
4. That Ellen and others claimed that the door to heaven was shut in 1844? An early title the Millerites or Sabbatarian Adventists (who would become the Seventh-day Adventist Church) used for themselves was the “Sabbath and Shut Door Adventists.
Ellen White early on in her ministry supported the belief in the Shut door as most Millerites. Despite her earlier belief, beginning in November 1848, she had a vision in which she saw the Three Angels’ Messages “like streams of light... clear round the world.” As the Millerite movement had not been significantly multinational, her vision clearly showed that new converts could be made to the movement.
In an 1849 vision, White heard Christ tell her that the door that had been shut was the door to the Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary.
Btw if anyone thinks these are made up, well they aren’t, those are core Seventh day Adventist beliefs you can look up fir yourself from official Adventist sites. I can post thise links to SDA official sites if anyone wants
A DISGRACE TO OUR FATHER GOD!
——>Nah, phil, paganism is following the false prophetess Ellen G white who had numerous failed prophecies.
Catholic disinformation protocol specialists (DIPS) like yourself aren’t fooling anyone. The Catholic Church comes straight out of Paganism, and 80% of your priests are flaming homosexuals.
powwows.com says:
“Smudging is a Native American ritual that links smoke with spirituality in remarkable ways. This is a common ceremonial ritual among indigenous people, held closely within these cultures to purify, spiritually cleanse, rid physical spaces of negative energy, and bless.”
AI Overview says:
“Incense is used in Catholic Mass to symbolize prayers rising to heaven and to sanctify the altar, Gospel, offerings, and people, a practice rooted in Scripture such as Exodus 30 and Psalm 141.
Core Reasons for Using Incense
Symbol of prayers rising to God
The rising smoke visually represents the faithful’s prayers ascending to heaven, echoing Psalm 141: “Let my prayer come like incense before you.”
Sanctification and purification
Incense signifies the holiness of the altar, Gospel book, offerings, priest, and congregation. It marks them as set apart for God.
Biblical foundation
God commanded incense use in worship (Exodus 30), and Revelation depicts heavenly worship surrounded by incense offered with the prayers of the saints.
Connection to heavenly worship
Incense creates an atmosphere reflecting the worship of angels and saints, linking the earthly liturgy to the heavenly one.
Engaging the senses
Catholic worship involves the whole person—body and soul. Incense engages smell and sight to deepen reverence and solemnity.”
Seems to be little difference; like many other things, it depends on intention and what is in the heart.
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