Posted on 05/25/2026 10:10:46 PM PDT by Morgana
David Vaka is a self-styled ‘apostle,’ president of the Breakthrough Network, and head convener of the recent ROAR Leadership Summit, which he oversees with his wife, and which hosts events on how to “architect a kingdom city.”
Their promo material notes:
“The Sunshine Coast has entered a season of Apostolic and Kingdom manifestations. Prophetic promises are now being intercepted, activated, and earthed through Apostolic grace and Kingdom technology”
During a recent Pentecost service at Newlife Church (NLC), a 5-Fold Ministry church which co-pastors team Pete and Kaz Hewitt lead, they claim that “Jesus…the King of Glory Himself turned up in person.”
Furthermore, they allege Jesus moved about the room and crowned attendees with “kingly authority and power.”
This was accompanied by several pictures of the event.
When probed whether they specifically had pictures of Jesus appearing in person or a livestreamed video of the truly miraculous, marvelous event, they were less than forthcoming.
We’re sure it is.
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Matthew 24:23-27
21st Century King James Version
23 Then if any man shall say unto you,
‘Lo, here is Christ,’ or ‘there,’
BELIEVE IT NOT.
24 For there shall arise false christs
and false prophets and shall show great signs
and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible,
they shall deceive the Very Elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Therefore, if they shall say unto you,
‘Behold, He is in the desert!’ GO NOT FORTH;
or ‘Behold, He is in the secret chambers!’ BELIEVE IT NOT.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the East
and shineth even unto the West,
so shall also the Coming of the Son of Man be.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024%3A23-27&version=KJ21
ummmmmm
no
Bfl
Or are they saying that they won't believe any "miraculous" apparitions without photographic / video evidence?
Regards,
Well it’s like this. I did not see Jesus in the pics nor was JC available for comment.
Please forgive me a bit of skepticism here. I do not understand the use of the word "Proof" in this context of Jesus appearing in the gathering.
So perhaps someone can explain the title's use of "Proof", I don't get it.
Jesus did say that where two or three are gathered in his name, he will be there also. So, yeah it is possible for his spiritual presence But no physical manifestation. We will have that when,as promised, Christ physically returns.
Sounds like another scam pastor, or seriously confused pastor...
So, you are demanding photographic / video evidence or a recorded interview.
Understood!
Regards,
The article is demanding "proof" in the same sense that a modern court of law would demand robust, forensic-level evidence and a coherent, logical explanation when it comes to assessing the reality of any other mundane claim.
I leave it to our fellow FReepers to decide if that is appropriate.
Regards,
Some of these charismatic denominations are just plain embarrassing. They’re like the seed that landed on shallow, rocky soil. They bloom for a time, then they wither and die.
CC
That was sort of my point, I think it's completely inappropriate to demand photographic or similar Proof.
The ancients believed in God, or gods, to explain things they saw or experienced that they could not explain. Most of those have modern explanations and so those deities are generally out of business.
But I believe in God because there are still many things I observe that I cannot explain. Two examples:
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