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Is Jesus Michael the Archangel? Adventist teaching: Yes Biblical teaching: No
Answering Adventism ^

Posted on 08/07/2025 6:56:08 AM PDT by Cronos

The SDA position.

Ellen White (who they believe was divinely inspired and corrects inaccurate interpretations of scripture), said Michael is not Lord but the Lord is the Father, thus distinguishing Michael from being the Almighty. This is consistent with the SDA view of the Godhead where the Father alone is the Almighty.

... In the SDA's official "The Signs of the Times":

The eternal Word gave Himself. He did not aspire to be equal with God, “did not meditate a usurpation” of the throne of the universe, but He emptied Himself, gave Himself, then and there, for sinners. He took the form of a servant, becoming an angel among the angels that He might redeem angels; but they would not. And when they rejected the righteousness and life so freely offered, He descended lower still to those duped by Satan—fallen man—stooping even to death, that He might redeem of the fallen all who desired to be redeemed, and vindicate to the universe to all eternity the character of God. That was the work of the Word of God, the eternal Logos, when He became Michael the Archangel, when He became Jesus the Man of Nazareth,

Signs of the Times, June 6, 1911

...they claim that, at a certain point, Jesus became Michael the Archangel in seeking to redeem the angels that rebelled, but they rejected him. So he then went on to incarnate as a man to seek and redeem mankind.

...Referencing Jude 9, Ellen White claims to have seen the events documented in that verse in vision:

Michael did not rebuke the Devil, although it was through his temptation and power that God’s servant had fallen. Christ meekly referred him to his Father, saying, The Lord rebuke thee.

Ellen G. White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. I, pg. 43 (SG 43.1)

(Excerpt) Read more at answeringadventism.com ...


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One of the central errors the SDA Church makes is conflating Michael the Archangel with The Angel of the LORD who is mentioned throughout the Old Testament.
1 posted on 08/07/2025 6:56:08 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos; lightman; xone

typology tautology ping


2 posted on 08/07/2025 6:58:18 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (There are no more conspiracy theories, only questions that further the truth.)
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To: Cronos

Jehovah Witnesses also hold that one.


3 posted on 08/07/2025 6:59:09 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Cronos

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe this as well...........


4 posted on 08/07/2025 7:06:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Cronos

John 10:30: “I and the Father are one.”


5 posted on 08/07/2025 7:11:38 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Cronos

If anything, there is more evidence Lucifer and Jesus are the same...

Both are considered the “light bringer” and the “morning star”, came to Earth, will return, early Greek translations use heosphoros as a descriptor...

Nonsense... patently...

“I saw it in a vision” doesn’t work as well as it did 2000 years ago.


6 posted on 08/07/2025 7:13:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Cronos

Why post heresy?


7 posted on 08/07/2025 7:16:05 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: stanne

Everything is heresy to someone


8 posted on 08/07/2025 7:34:26 AM PDT by bigbob (If thou doth eff around, thou wilt findeth out)
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To: Cronos

Jesuits DIPS are literal idiots if they think SDA’s believe Christ is a created angel.

https://www.biblelightinfo.com/michael.htm

As this study shows, according to scriptures, Jesus is the angel of the LORD, the angel of God, the angel of the covenant, the Archangel Michael, who appeared time and again in the Old Testament to speak directly to His people. Michael is just another title for the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh, the principle messenger of the gospel (archangel) to humanity, but He is not a created being.


9 posted on 08/07/2025 7:38:49 AM PDT by Philsworld (.)
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To: bigbob

No. That’s leftist BS

This is factually heresy


10 posted on 08/07/2025 7:40:05 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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To: stanne

Cronos also believes that Antiochus is the Little Horn/Antichrist of bible prophecy, when every Protestant Reformer said it was his church, the Papacy.


11 posted on 08/07/2025 7:42:30 AM PDT by Philsworld (.)
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To: Cronos
Jehovah Witnesses have the same thinking.

Rev. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

If Michael was Christ why did he and his angels still need the blood of the Lamb to gain victory? /rhetorical question

JMO, YMMV

12 posted on 08/07/2025 7:43:37 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cronos
It seems to me that the only theological views that must be correct in order to be saved are those concerning Christ.

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.. John 8:24

I think people can believe all sorts of other nonsense and still be saved. The cults always go after Jesus.

13 posted on 08/07/2025 7:44:45 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: stanne; Cronos

Cronos also believes that his church’s homosexual priests can forgive sins and that God must abide by their pronouncement, which is blasphemy.


14 posted on 08/07/2025 7:45:38 AM PDT by Philsworld (.)
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To: Cronos

EGW said Jesus was a sinner because He ate meat.


15 posted on 08/07/2025 8:10:36 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: Cronos

JW theology says that Jesus was the Arch Angel Michael.


16 posted on 08/07/2025 8:11:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: SkyDancer

prove it


17 posted on 08/07/2025 8:12:38 AM PDT by Philsworld (.)
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To: Dead Corpse
If anything, there is more evidence Lucifer and Jesus are the same... Both are considered the “light bringer” and the “morning star”, came to Earth, will return, early Greek translations use heosphoros as a descriptor... Nonsense... patently... “I saw it in a vision” doesn't work as well as it did 2000 years ago.

Jesus said all but the 'very elect' , will bend a knee to the fake ... And the 'holy' catholics chant , holy, holy, holy.

18 posted on 08/07/2025 8:15:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thi)
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To: Philsworld
The ‘little horn/antichrist’ is none other than the devil. WHO tempted Christ? And the devil, who is the only named entity in the whole of the Bible has already been judged to death...

You do not look more correct, when your own religion is filled with moth eaten holes.

19 posted on 08/07/2025 8:19:33 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thi)
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To: Just mythoughts

——>The ‘little horn/antichrist’ is none other than the devil.

I agree with EVERY PROTESTANT REFORMER on record. You don’t. I suggest you educate yourself.


20 posted on 08/07/2025 8:28:04 AM PDT by Philsworld (.)
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