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How would you respond to this argument: "Since science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, then it's possible he exists"?
Quora.com ^ | Updated 12-10-23 | Daniel Hamilton

Posted on 12/10/2023 12:53:16 PM PST by daniel1212

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To: Sacajaweau

the rulers don’t


121 posted on 12/11/2023 1:11:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alberta's Child

until trains, all ‘time’ was sun local


122 posted on 12/11/2023 1:13:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fuzz

The big difference between schizophrenia voices and hearing God’s voice is the level at which the person is connecting.

The level a schizophrenic hears voices causes them to deal with impostors as they have no discernment.

When you reach the higher levels of consciousness, the Love and Light is so bright that the impostors cannot come near you. They fear that the Love & Light radiating through you will dispell their darkness and kill them.

This is how Jesus casts out demons and unclean spirits. This is how exorcisms are done.

I’ve worked with and read the souls of people with schizophrenia. I’ve worked with young people who used drugs one time and developed schizophrenia for life. Their consciousness flow pattern is unique in that they have no defined sense of self or ego as a containment vessel for their emotional consciousness. Their delusions happen as they do not have full use of their prefrontal cortex where analytical and logical thought processing occurs. Thus they have very little discernment and become delusional.

This same pattern is happening in general society today. People are in a trance or hypnotic state and hyper suggestable to propaganda, without discernment. It’s sad to see it happen.

🙏


123 posted on 12/11/2023 1:17:54 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Big Red Badger
I believe in the Big Bang!

And it's both Scientific and Theistic.


backstory...

Growing up, I didn't attend 'church' except a little when visiting relatives.

Most of my 'learning' came thru whatever was the prevailing culture in America at the time.

I'd had the standard US public education (40's - 50's) up to high school and then I joined the Air Force.

During tech school training in Denver, I was dating this local girl who lived close to the base.

One crisp fall evening, we'd been watching the boob tube - Late Night Movie. It was about some miracle(s) at Lordes. Now the girl was interested in the movie, while I was more interested in trying to do things that'll getcha in a position to NEVER be considered for the Supreme Court. Needless to say; I knew as much about the female gender as rocket science; so at least SHE'LL will never be able to Kavanaugh me!


Anyway; upon leaving her house early in the morning, I was walking back to the base; about 1.5 miles IIRC; thinking of the movie. Sorry; but I could not see any 'god' in those healings or whatever.

I was a rational sort; the kind that put his faith in what I could figger out for himself. I went clear back to the teaching I'd gotten about the Big Bang and evolution and the stuff that school wants you to understand.

The clear Colorado night sky was ablaze with stars in that mile high air. "Yeah!", I thought. "After the BB everything was formed and earth and everything came to be and the primordial goo got to churnin' and then little squally things came to pass and then the fishys and the birds and the cows and the apes and finally Man and then ME!"

That Einstein was RIGHT!

E=mc2 explained it all!!


Happy that a vexing movie was now debunked; I continued toward the base, mulling over mass and energy and light (Darn near none of which did I really understand).

Happy that Einstein's equation had gelled my thoughts on the problem, my analytical brain coughed up the fact that equations can be re-written and they are still true.

Thus E=mc2 could be rearranged to be...

m=E/c2

So there it was; all that MASS in the universe; all them stars out there; all them planets and moons and meteors and bugs and birds and me - all MASS!


As I neared the guard at the gate; an idea, a thought, a whisper, or a Voice said to me, "So... where did the ENERGY come from?"

124 posted on 12/11/2023 1:23:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Any of those other religions have a SAVIOR?


125 posted on 12/11/2023 1:26:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MotorCityBuck
Folks can believe what they want.

They sure can!

It's right there in the bible:

Choose this day which god you shall serve.

126 posted on 12/11/2023 1:31:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MotorCityBuck

If there is no GOD then there is no basis for evil in the world.

Animals have no god, and if you are treated badly (by your standards) by another species (or your own); you have no recourse other than to suck it up and keep on truckin’.


127 posted on 12/11/2023 1:36:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Terry L Smith

128 posted on 12/11/2023 1:41:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Big Red Badger

Nope - reveivers


129 posted on 12/11/2023 1:43:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rockingham

When we finally get down to the bottom turtle; all will become clear. Crystal.


130 posted on 12/11/2023 1:48:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

MOM!

Some folks on FR are talkin' 'bout GOD again; and I'm gettin' scared again, and...

..make them QUIT!

131 posted on 12/11/2023 1:52:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ifinnegan

This is what happens when you bring a mirror to a knife fight.


132 posted on 12/11/2023 1:57:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

Step back and look at Christianity. It is excellent teaching for the human soul to grow.

Please read Jesus’s explanation of the parable of the tares in the wheat at the end of Matthew 13 when the Disciples asked for help to understand the parable.

Matthew 13:37 He(Jesus) answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.”

Humans are souls that are planted here in the darkness of the earth to sprout and grow. They are a crop of consciousness that begins as an individual seed and then grows to be One with God.

They exist within God already, but are unaware of it.

God’s Higher Consciousness is a purifying fire for all things unclean. Obstacles to Love cannot exist in the Higher levels of consciousness.

Just as a dense object placed in the high frequency of a microwave heats up and catches on fire,so it is with souls that embrace sin when the Holy Spirit moves in.

This is why the ultimate sin is to reject the Holy Spirit.

There are three stages to soul growth in a physical body. First is dependency where the feminine emotional child develops.

About age 8 or 9, roughly third grade when they start long division and multiplication, the second stage, the logical masculine consciousness begins to develop. This is the ego self, or self actualization.

Jesus taught us how to enter the third stage or self transcendence. When a person goes through mid-life crisis, the ego gets crushed. The attachment to individual identity is diminished.

In EEG studies, they show that at this point in life, the Theta frequencies of consciousness of the feminine emotional child begin to synchronize and harmonize with the Beta frequencies of consciousness of the logical masculine self.

This period is a rollercoaster of emotions as all unresolved obstacles to Love in the soul surface for an opportunity for resolution. This is necessary, as without Love, the logical masculine and the emotional feminine consciousness cannot merge and become one in the eyes of God. Love is the glue that binds the consciousness of the soul together and stabilizes it.

When a person becomes whole, balanced in their masculine and feminine and bound with Love, consciousness shifts to the gamma frequency. This is the frequency of the mystics. When consciousness reaches this frequency, transcendance has just begun. You begin to perceive beyond your physical body, directly with your consciousness.

As your soul grows, you become aware that you really do exist in Jesus and Jesus exists in you. Communion is real and not just a theoretical metaphoric drinking of wine.

This is the “raising up” that many call rapture. There are many, many levels.

I say these things based upon actual experiences and my own perception of those experiences, not the theories of others. I always reserve the right to be wrong, as what is true at one level of consciousness is not necessarily true at other levels.

Enough for now... I must run.

🙏


133 posted on 12/11/2023 1:59:58 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired
Jesus is my Savior... because I have chosen to believe his Message, and I've asked Him to, "...remember me when you come into your Kingdom."
134 posted on 12/11/2023 2:01:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I have no ‘frequencies’ to tune to;
no ‘consciences’ to delve into;
no ‘past lives’ to ponder;
no ‘alien DNA’ to reject.

I’m just a destitute sinner;
bound for hell if no one saves me.


135 posted on 12/11/2023 2:10:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rockingham

I was doing the same work as Newton and Weiss before they wrote their books. I chose to not publish as that attaches you to an identity and hinders further growth.

The same was true of exorcisms and spirit releasement before Baldwin wrote his comprehensive book on the topic.

The real learning is in the experience. When I died, it was like a guided tour of Heaven and consciousness. Then I learned to recreate the experiences in meditation.

I tried staying in Heaven and abandon this physical body about a month ago during surgery, but they sent me back as the work is about to begin on earth. It’s about to get real interesting.

🙏


136 posted on 12/11/2023 2:15:25 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Elsie

You can believe you can swim, but reality hits when you jump in the water.


137 posted on 12/11/2023 2:23:07 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: reasonisfaith

We know only so much about the origin and future of the universe. Everything yet unknown could be thought of as something else we’ve already given various other names to. If it’s true that the more we learn the less we know, then there may may be eons of time in any direction for us and/or other forms of intelligent life for pondering and subsequently realizing their existence. In the meantime, we can believe what we want to believe if if we insist on arriving at foregone conclusions in our own lifetimes. There is no problem, unless further discovery represents a problem for those who have settled on their religion’s explanation(s), however ancient.


138 posted on 12/11/2023 3:11:24 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: Elsie

dear elsie, WHAT or which part, as you say, ‘don’t make no sense”?

you’ve got menu A, ‘its all god’
meniu B, ‘no god’ ,
Menu C, scientist saying we can explain most, with the people declaring that the remnant is god,
Menu D, it looks like magick and sorcery, but we think that is god, too
.


139 posted on 12/11/2023 3:41:43 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith
dear elsie, WHAT or which part, as you say, ‘don’t make no sense”?

 

Your spellings/or lack thereof...

 

 

at one time, ‘it’ was either magick/sorcery or the gods.a time later, it was still ‘m’/’s’ or the go d.
a time more, the debate between the god or neginning science.
today, you have that half-boat buildet in kenticky stating its all the god, the atheist stating no god, the scientist pushing back on no god and its m/s.

whatever is experiential to the individual, is best defimed in the box of the individual, because that which happened cannot be duplivated for verification.
whether that be divine, m/s, or happenstance.

140 posted on 12/11/2023 4:04:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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