Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Sunday Mass Sermon- Are We Saved By Faith Alone?
Word on Fire Ministry ^ | 9.10.23 | Bishop Robert Barron

Posted on 09/10/2023 7:50:37 PM PDT by MurphsLaw

Todays Sermon pulls from the 2nd Reading
of today from Romans.
The Sermon highlights the "Love side" of St. Paul's
Gospel he preached.
A contentious topic, to be sure.

14 min. YouTube video link below:

Are We Saved By Faih Alone?




TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-193 next last
From those song lyrics...

.... "Put a little Love your heart...
And the World... will be a better place..."


1 posted on 09/10/2023 7:50:37 PM PDT by MurphsLaw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

Weird. That song popped into my head this morning after Church. Hmm đŸ€”


2 posted on 09/10/2023 8:01:51 PM PDT by dragonblustar (You best start believing in Bible prophecies, you’re in one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

Very good from Bishop Barron.


3 posted on 09/10/2023 8:07:14 PM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

Saved by the work of Christ; Sanctified by the Holy Spirit


4 posted on 09/10/2023 8:07:39 PM PDT by 11th_VA (<><)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

That was a great message. Timely too.


5 posted on 09/10/2023 8:17:10 PM PDT by dragonblustar (You best start believing in Bible prophecies, you’re in one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

Ask the thief on the Cross.


6 posted on 09/10/2023 8:19:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; Karliner; RoosterRedux; skr; Big Red Badger; ...
* In the Bible, one is saved by penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) in the risen Divine Lord Jesus, who was sent by the Father to be the savior of the world. (1 John 4:14) who did everything Right, but then took responsibility for all we did Wrong, paying the price the forgiveness of our sin with His own sinless shed blood. (Isaiah 53:4–11; Luke 24:47; Luke 24:47; Col. 1:14)

* And 3 days later then rose and ascended to His Father in Heaven as Lord of all, and thus enabling regeneration (John 7:37, 38; 14:24,25; 16:7) when one essentially believes as described above. (Acts 15:7-9; Eph. 1:13; Titus 3:5)

* And which effectual faith is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and results in following the Lord, (Jn. 10:27, 28; Romans 8:14) which is to formally begin with being baptized (Acts 2:38-47; 8:12,36,37)

* And by which faith the redeemed soul is "accepted in the Beloved" and positionally seated with Him in Heaven, on His account, glory to God. (Ephesians 1:6; 2:6; cf. Phil. 3:21)

* And those who die in that obedient faith will go to be forever with Him at death or His return, at "the first resurrection," (Revelation 20:5) “the resurrection of life, ” (Jn. 5:29a) "of the just." (Luke 14:14) For wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for those who die in that effectual faith then it is with the Lord, at death or His return (whatever comes first), by the grace of God. (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17)

In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; 10:25-39)

* And which believers will go with the Lord Jesus to the battle of Armageddon, “ (Jude 14-15; cf. Revelation 19:14) and also (after His return) stand before “the judgment seat of Christ” which is only for believers, and who will be judged as to rewards or loss thereof due their manner of workmanship in building the body of Christ, the church. (Lk. 14:14; cf. 1Cor. 3:8ff; 4:5; Acts 24:15)

* And who then be rulers under Christ in His literal 1,000 year reign: “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.” (Revelation 20:6)

* After which the “great and notable day of the Lord” ‘ (Acts 2:20) culminates in the Great White Throne judgment, with “the resurrection of damnation” (Jn. 5:29b) and their judgment which occurs 1,000 years after “the first resurrection” (Rv. 20:6) the “resurrection of life, (”(Jn. 5:29a) and in which judgment believers will be part of the jury in the judgment of men and angels (1 Corinthians 6:3)

* In which the dead are judged out of those things which were written in the books, and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire, (Rv. 20:11-5) with their degree of punishment being determined in accordance with how much light and grace was given. (Lk. 10:12-13; 12:47,48)

7 posted on 09/10/2023 8:31:21 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw
Luther: faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit...
Faith cannot help doing good works constantly...
if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit...
where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith..
where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both.
if obedience and God's commandments do not dominate you, then the work is not right, but damnable, surely the devil's own doings, although it were even so great a work as to raise the dead...
if you continue in pride and lewdness, in greed and anger, and yet talk much of faith, St. Paul will come and say, 1 Cor. 4:20, look here my dear Sir, "the kingdom of God is not in word but in power."
It requires life and action, and is not brought about by mere talk.
Works are necessary for salvation, but they do not cause salvation...
faith casts itself on God, and breaks forth and becomes certain through its works...
faith must be exercised, worked and polished; be purified by fire...
it is impossible for him who believes in Christ, as a just Savior, not to love and to do good.
If, however, he does not do good nor love, it is sure that faith is not present...
where the works are absent, there is also no Christ...

References and more by God's grace. http://peacebyjesus.net/Reformation_faith_works.html

8 posted on 09/10/2023 8:34:18 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Who got the first indulgence.


9 posted on 09/10/2023 8:41:44 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Texas_Guy

Urban II is said to be the first to grant the first plenary indulgence for the crusades. However, it was unscriptural and more in line with the Islamic belief of jihad.


10 posted on 09/10/2023 8:51:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Dismas...aka “The good Theif. “
Patron Saint of prisoners.


11 posted on 09/10/2023 9:07:56 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

In Christ alone, my hope is found
He is my light, my strength, my song
This Cornerstone, this solid ground
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
What heights of love, what depths of peace
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
My Comforter, my All in All
Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh
Fullness of God in helpless babe
This gift of love and righteousness
Scorned by the ones He came to save
‘Til on that cross as Jesus died
The wrath of God was satisfied
For every sin on Him was laid
Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay
Light of the world by darkness slain
Then bursting forth in glorious Day
Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory
Sin’s curse has lost its grip on me
For I am His and He is mine
Bought with the precious blood of Christ

No guilt in life, no fear in death
This is the power of Christ in me
From life’s first cry to final breath
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man
Can ever pluck me from His hand
Till He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I’ll stand

đŸŽ¶đŸŽ¶đŸŽ¶ by Stuart Townend


12 posted on 09/11/2023 4:18:35 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

——>Ask the thief on the Cross.

Ask these guys:

Matthew 7:
21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’


13 posted on 09/11/2023 5:14:46 AM PDT by Philsworld (Eccl 12:13 ...Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Philsworld

If you dig into the Greek of this passage you’ll see those who practice lawlessness are ones who never professed faith in Christ
and only Christ.


14 posted on 09/11/2023 5:46:51 AM PDT by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Sorry, Dude, they are PROFESSING Christ. Absolutely clear in those texts. Their downfall is LAWLESSNESS, as will be what gets most of Christianity. Most will not be saved.


15 posted on 09/11/2023 5:56:35 AM PDT by Philsworld (Eccl 12:13 ...Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

That includes billions of professing Christians at the end of the world (no secret PTR will save them, because it’s a lie). They will gladly receive the mark of the beast, because it’s about God’s law, which their false teachers and pastors have convinced doesn’t apply to them. Guaranteed.


16 posted on 09/11/2023 6:07:20 AM PDT by Philsworld (Eccl 12:13 ...Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Philsworld

You miss the point. These people were never saved. The Mormon may claim Lord, Lord but is lost. As is the Muslim or Hindu. There are millions who wear the scapular and claim for Mary to save them but are lost. Also note their “good works” did nothing for them.


17 posted on 09/11/2023 7:23:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone
---->These people were never saved.

If they claimed FAITH UNTO SALVATION, they certainly were saved (past sins forgiven at Grace), just like you and I claim. Then, they lived their lives for Christ, claiming and doing this and that in His name. Then, they were judged (on their works).

The big question is WHY will they not be in heaven. The answer is, because Christ never KNEW them. If a person says they "KNOW" Christ, they keep His commandments. If they don't, they are called LIARS. You know the text, right? Not keeping His commandments is LAWLESSNESS. God's law was the standard of the Old Covenant, as it is for the New Covenant. That is crystal clear biblical doctrine.

LOOK at the language:

Hebrews 8:10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, KNOW the Lord: for all shall KNOW me, from the least to the greatest.

Knowing the Lord means keeping his law/commandments. That is New Covenant 101. His people obey. Those who don't are LAWLESS. Saying God's law doesn't apply to them is nothing short of treason. One who rejects God's laws, de facto, rejects Christ. Revelation makes it very clear that it is COMMANDMENT KEEPERS that will be in heaven. Those who think God's law doesn't apply to them will not be there, no matter who tells them otherwise (false teachers).

18 posted on 09/11/2023 1:09:37 PM PDT by Philsworld (Eccl 12:13 ...Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone
---->These people were never saved.

If they claimed FAITH UNTO SALVATION, they certainly were saved (past sins forgiven at Grace), just like you and I claim. Then, they lived their lives for Christ, claiming and doing this and that in His name. Then, they were judged (on their works).

The big question is WHY will they not be in heaven. The answer is, because Christ never KNEW them. If a person says they "KNOW" Christ, they keep His commandments. If they don't, they are called LIARS. You know the text, right? Not keeping His commandments is LAWLESSNESS. God's law was the standard of the Old Covenant, as it is for the New Covenant. That is crystal clear biblical doctrine.

LOOK at the language:

Hebrews 8:10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, KNOW the Lord: for all shall KNOW me, from the least to the greatest.

Knowing the Lord means keeping his law/commandments. That is New Covenant 101. His people obey. Those who don't are LAWLESS. Saying God's law doesn't apply to them is nothing short of treason. One who rejects God's laws, de facto, rejects Christ. Revelation makes it very clear that it is COMMANDMENT KEEPERS that will be in heaven. Those who think God's law doesn't apply to them will not be there, no matter who tells them otherwise (false teachers).

19 posted on 09/11/2023 1:09:37 PM PDT by Philsworld (Eccl 12:13 ...Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Sorry, double post.


20 posted on 09/11/2023 1:10:46 PM PDT by Philsworld (Eccl 12:13 ...Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-193 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson