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Sunday Mass Sermon- Are We Saved By Faith Alone?
Word on Fire Ministry ^ | 9.10.23 | Bishop Robert Barron

Posted on 09/10/2023 7:50:37 PM PDT by MurphsLaw

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To: Elsie

——>But if they did not constitute the old covenant,
then what the hell did!?


Exodus 19:
5Now if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, you will be My treasured possession out of all the nations—for the whole earth is Mine. 6And unto Me you shall be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you are to speak to the Israelites.”

7So Moses went back and summoned the elders of the people and set before them all these words that the LORD had commanded him. 8And all the people answered together, “We will do everything that the LORD has spoken.”

https://www.biblelightinfo.com/covenant-seal.htm

After the terms of the covenant were agreed to by the people of God, the covenant was solemnly inaugurated by the sprinkling of blood of sacrificed animals:

Exo 24:5 And he [Moses] sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD.
Exo 24:6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basins; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
Exo 24:7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.
Exo 24:8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.
Exo 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
Exo 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
Exo 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

Heb 9:18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

Note that to confirm the covenant, there was a meal on mount Sinai attended by representatives of Israel. The blood of the testament signaled that the covenant with God was now in effect, and both parties were bound by its terms. The terms of the Old Covenant were the Law of God, obedience by Israel to the Ten Commandments, the two tables of stone inscribed by God with His Law, and kept in the Ark of the Covenant.


...Note that to confirm the covenant, there was a meal on mount Sinai attended by representatives of Israel.

Hey Elsie, where have we seen that before?


181 posted on 09/22/2023 5:36:50 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

——>For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

No kidding. That’s where GRACE, the blood of Christ, and the NEW COVENANT come in.

Here’s a little clarification on that verse from the SDA Bible Commentary:

20. Therefore. Rather, “because.” What follows introduces the reason why every mouth will be stopped and all the world be held accountable to God (v. 19).

By the deeds of the law. Literally, “out of works of law,” that is, works prescribed by law. In the Greek, “law” stands without the article (see on ch. 2:12). Paul is stating a general truth that is applicable to Gentiles and Jews alike. Righteousness by works of law has been the basis of every false religious system and had become the principle even of the Jewish religion (DA 35, 36). But works performed in obedience to any law, whether that law be made known by reason, conscience, or revelation, cannot justify a sinner before God (Gal. 3:21). Paul has already shown that the Gentiles have violated the law revealed to them in nature and conscience (Rom. 1). Likewise he has proved that the Jews have violated the law revealed to them in the OT and particularly in the Ten Commandments (ch. 2). Jew and Gentile alike are in need of justification. But the law has no power to justify. It can only expose the sinfulness of sin in its true colors. Justification can be obtained in only one way.

There is no contradiction between the statement in ch. 2:13, “the doers of the law shall be justified,” and this passage, “by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified.” The former emphasizes the fact that only those will be justified who so completely commit themselves to God that they are willing to do whatever He commands—thus not being merely “hearers of law.” The latter emphasizes the equally true fact that good works of obedience can never purchase salvation. They can, at best, be but evidence of the faith by which justification is received.

No flesh. That is, no man, no human being. Paul is doubtless alluding to Ps. 143:2.

Be justified. Gr. dikaioō, “to set right,” “to regard as righteous,” “to declare righteous,” “to treat as being righteous,” “to present as righteous.” The word occurs 39 times in the NT, 27 of these being in the writings of Paul: The significance of dikaioō is somewhat obscured by the translation “to justify.” In the Greek dikaioō, “to justify,” dikaios, “righteous,” dikaiosunē, “righteousness,” are all built on the same root and the relationship between the three is clearly seen.

As used in the NT with reference to human beings, justification indicates the act by which a person is brought into a right state in relation to God. By this act God acquits a man who has been guilty of wrongdoing or treats as righteous someone who has been unrighteous. It means the cancellation of charges standing against the believer in the heavenly court. “If you give yourself to Him, and accept Him as your Saviour, then, sinful as your life may have been, for His sake you are accounted righteous” (SC 62; see on chs. 3:28; 4:25; 5:1).

By the law. Literally, “through law.” There is no article in the Greek (see on ch. 2:12).

Knowledge. Gr. epignōsis, a term meaning clear and exact knowledge (see Rom. 1:28; 10:2; Eph. 4:13), not the ordinary word for knowledge (gnōsis). The law is the standard of right, and whatever fails to comply with the law is sin, for sin is lawlessness, disobedience to law (1 John 3:4). The more one becomes acquainted with the standard, the more one’s consciousness and sense of sin is increased. That is why no one can be justified by works of law. As far as justification is concerned the law has done all that it can accomplish when the sinner has been led to exclaim, “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?” (see on Rom. 7:24). Law holds the mirror up to guilt, but cannot remove it.

This verse, along with Paul’s statement that the law is to bring us to Christ (Gal. 3:24), clearly shows the relation between the law and the gospel. The gospel has by no means obviated the necessary function of law. The doctrine of righteousness by faith “presents the law and the gospel, binding up the two in a perfect whole” (TM 94).


182 posted on 09/22/2023 6:01:41 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

No idea what you’re talking about.


183 posted on 09/22/2023 6:04:51 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

Unlike you, I actually go to links that people reference (including video). WHY WOULDN’T I? And, why should you be so surprised?

Posting a link to a quote is just common courtesy.


184 posted on 09/22/2023 6:09:39 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

——>James 2:10 King James Version
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Good luck.


You too. Something for you to think about tomorrow, as you carry about your normal day.


185 posted on 09/22/2023 6:19:56 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld
Did you ask for a YES or NO?

Most people would probably think I did:

It was part of the OLD covenant and I want to know if you think it is still part of the NEW.

186 posted on 09/22/2023 2:50:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld
Yes or no.

I see you do MUCH better at asking than I do.


If no, THEN TELL ME WHY.

You'd want clarification even if my answer was YES.

Sorry; but I have to pass on your request, as my mind-reading powers are VERY limited 2,000 years out.

187 posted on 09/22/2023 2:53:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld
Israel, Israel, Israel...



188 posted on 09/22/2023 2:55:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld

So, what NEW laws are incorporated into the NEW covenant?


189 posted on 09/22/2023 2:56:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld
Thinkin', Boss.

Still thinkin'.


1 John 2:1 King James Bible

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

190 posted on 09/22/2023 2:58:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Hmmm, it’s like you aren’t even reading my posts.

Post 162 (you also need to read 163).

To my knowledge, heaven and earth has not passed. So, God’s moral, immutable 10 commandment law stands, binding to all those who profess his name, and that certainly includes His 7th-day-Sabbath. We will ALL be judged by the law. Those who hate God’s 10 commandment law will be removed from the BOL. It is the same as hating Christ Himself.


191 posted on 09/23/2023 8:33:17 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Elsie

Let me know when you want to carry on a serious discussion.


192 posted on 09/23/2023 8:38:20 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld
So, God’s moral, immutable 10 commandment law stands, binding to all those who profess his name, and that certainly includes His 7th-day-Sabbath.

And these are ALL OLD covenant; right!?


Y/N are accepted.

193 posted on 09/23/2023 5:35:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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