Posted on 05/09/2023 7:35:50 AM PDT by ebb tide
He clothes it saying Traditionalists are ideological, and basically calling his predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI idiots (in so many words) for somehow not having the brilliant "pastoral" foresight he has -- that persecution is good and "pastoral"...
From his talk with Hungarian Jesuits, as reported by Jesuit periodical La Civiltà Cattolica:
[Question:] The Second Vatican Council talks about the relationship between the Church and the modern world. How can we reconcile the Church and the reality that is already beyond the modern? How do we find God’s voice while loving our time?
[Francis:] I wouldn’t know how to answer that theoretically, but I certainly know that the Council is still being applied. It takes a century for a Council to be assimilated, they say. And I know the resistance to its decrees is terrible. There is incredible support for restorationism, what I call “indietrismo” (backwardness), as the Letter to the Hebrews (10:39) says: “But we do not belong to those who shrink back.” The flow of history and grace goes from the roots upward like the sap of a tree that bears fruit. But without this flow you remain a mummy. Going backwards does not preserve life, ever. You must change, as St. Vincent of Lérins wrote in his Commonitory when he remarked that even the dogma of the Christian religion progresses, consolidating over the years, developing with time, deepening with age. But this is a change from the bottom up. The danger today is indietrismo, the reaction against the modern. It is a nostalgic disease. This is why I decided that now the permission to celebrate according to the Roman Missal of 1962 is mandatory for all newly consecrated priests. After all the necessary consultations, I decided this because I saw that the good pastoral measures put in place by John Paul II and Benedict XVI were being used in an ideological way, to go backward. It was necessary to stop this indietrismo, which was not in the pastoral vision of my predecessors.
A man drunk with love for the "modern age" -- it's been working out so well for the family and for the Church... [source]
Ping
I’m old enough to remember when they used to say that “it’ll take 50 years to fully implement Vatican II.” When the 50th anniversary of the close of the council came and went in 2015, they bumped it up to 100 years. I suspect that the liberal wing of Catholicism will be moribund by 2065, but if there are of them left, they’ll be saying, “Just you wait! It takes 200 years to fully implement an ecumenical council.”
This pope makes my Catholic faith suffer.
Francis seems to be truly trying to end the Catholic church.
As far as we are concerned, there is no more Catholic church. Good riddance to socialist lib liars.
No more Catholics in my family.
Step down Bergoglio.
This pope makes my Catholic faith suffer.
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Just keep listening to Michael Matt. He and his father went through times similar to this before. Popes come and go, but Catholicism and steadfast belief in the saving grace of the Almighty will remain in the hearts of the faithful for all eternity.
Fake pope has a theory about the greatest danger to the Church.
The Church will be fine, Fake pope. It has seen off Antipopes like you before.
Be comforted. He's no more the pope than I am.
Ann Barnhardt was on this from the beginning. Very useful video here with timestamps under the main video
Maybe he should try reading that verse in context, not just plucking 5 words out that he likes. It's not about mindlessly embracing the zeitgeist, it's about courage in the face of persecution, persecution like the kind he is inflicting on the faithful.
I think Franis just needs to merge the Roman Catholic Church with the UUs..
That way, they will get all gay all the time, a bunch of really cool old buildings and tons of valuable stuff..
And they can rewrite all of the prayers to start with
“To Whom it may concern...”
Right. Having the Mass celebrated in a common language uniting all Catholics in all countries, no matter where one goes to attend, is dangerous. Typical lib strategy, divide and conquer. With this clown, sometimes I think excommunication would be a badge of honor.
And, according to this commie trash “modern” = paedo. He has been supporting that position for years.
He certainly is a cross faithful Catholics in our time are called to bear. In the end, when this man has run his curse, a faithful remnant will remain (as always in times like these) to rebuild the Church.
Frodo: I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.
Gandalf: So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
Sorry: “run his curse” should have been, “run his course”.
Stinking evil communist POS!
Haha - little Freudian-type slip? Made me smile.
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