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1 posted on 11/16/2022 9:24:09 PM PST by ebb tide
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This is the way that ALL churches that are beholden to the government for wealth and prosperity will fall. These folks, LDS and all “churches” that support abominations all supposedly belong to Christ but are really slaves to the beast.


2 posted on 11/16/2022 9:27:11 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Elsie

*ping*


3 posted on 11/16/2022 9:30:20 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: ebb tide

Neighbors of ours are Mormons and the mom was saying how they (especially the kids) were hoping that one day one of their “prophets” would say that homosexuality was okay.

I’m glad that I wasn’t in on the conversation. I would have replied “Well, it wasn’t that long ago that blacks were allowed to be in your church and finally gain salvation, so there’s hope the church will do the same for homosexuals.”


4 posted on 11/16/2022 9:38:30 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: ebb tide

Bout right for a church that teaches satan and Jesus we’re brothers


8 posted on 11/17/2022 2:19:18 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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I never found the mormon church to be particularly moral or ethical....

their beliefs swing with the current winds....

its about their empire, and they need the govt to keep it going .....

maybe we should all ditch organized religion and just pray to God and try to be good people....

9 posted on 11/17/2022 2:29:39 AM PST by cherry
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While the church said its doctrine on marriage ‘is well known and will remain unchanged,’ it believes the radical so-called Respect for Marriage Act ‘is the best way forward.’

Not among the gentiles of the world!


 
 
What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?




"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982


Spencer W. KimballBoyd K. PackerN. Eldon TannerMarion G. Romney
 
 


"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65


"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
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Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196


"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.


"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965


"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155


"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

https://exploringmormonism.com/boyd-k-packer-and-a-whole-new-sin/



10 posted on 11/17/2022 4:33:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Ebb, have you run out of iffy stuff to post about Catholicism?

lol


11 posted on 11/17/2022 4:34:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Utah is next state to go down the tubes. Great job out there people! Wake up!


14 posted on 11/17/2022 5:53:07 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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My guess is that the LDS want to get back to polygamy.This could be a way to do it.


17 posted on 11/17/2022 6:41:40 AM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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the church said it is “grateful for the continuing efforts of those who work to ensure the Respect for Marriage Act includes appropriate religious freedom protections while respecting the law and preserving the rights of our LGBTQ brothers and sisters.”

Is the Mormon Church so foolish as to believe that the LGBTQ community is going to stop pushing until it has suppressed all opposition? Tony Perkins is correct to suggest that the LGBTQ community won't stop.

19 posted on 11/17/2022 6:56:07 AM PST by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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@KamVTV: I got confused over the same sex marriage bill. It will allow the IRS, to revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that hold fast to traditional marriage. @RepMTG: Members like me vote NO. It’s not about gay marriage, it’s about Christian persecution.
20 posted on 11/17/2022 8:01:42 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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Feral has no limits


22 posted on 11/17/2022 8:38:53 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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This is what happens when a fraud like Mitt Romney is a bishop of your church.


31 posted on 11/17/2022 2:43:50 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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