Prophetic Synchronicity

Rev301.net ^ | 6/20/22 | Pete Garcia

[Roman_War_Criminal]

I want to spend time in this article discussing two concepts that I think encapsulate the times in which we live. Ironically, both concepts are from the late psychiatrist Carl Jung, who, along with Sigmund Freud and Friedrich Nietzsche, make up the triumvirate of 19th-20th century’s “greatest minds” when it comes to understanding human behavior, humanist philosophy, and the human mind. To my knowledge, Jung was not a born-again believer.

With that said, he was an intelligent man who attempted to understand the human condition apart from the Bible, which means he did not start from a position of truth and wisdom. If anything, he attempted to look at the human condition through the eyes of both the Chinese (I Ching) and Indian philosophies (Rig Vedas and the Upanishads). Nevertheless, in his ignorance of true wisdom (Proverbs 1:7), the threefold nature of man (1 Thess. 5:23), and man’s brokenness (Romans 3:23), his observations apart from truth are what is interesting.

The first concept is the word ‘synchronicity’ which interestingly popped up in my search bar the other day when I was looking up a song by the former rock band, The Police. Synchronicity was an album title they used back in the early 1980s and for some reason, that word resonated with me this time in a weird way. I’d seen it before, and even on rare occasions, I think, used it myself to describe some weird coincidence. But it’s not a concept I spent any real-time thinking about or even diving into, primarily because I tend to loathe modern psychiatry and psychology and its general anti-God bent. Carl Jung describes synchronicity as follows:

A meaningful coincidence of two or more events where

something other than the probability of chance is involved.

Modern psychology generally begins from a position that humans are purely biological-chemical and that we evolved, and were not created. They also tend to ignore what the Bible says about being born with a sinful nature. Nevertheless, Jung’s hyper-fixation on the nuances of the human condition is represented in his theorizing on things like shadow, archetypes, collective unconscious, synchronicity, and the complexico oppositorum. In layman’s terms, ‘synchronicity’ simply means, meaningful coincidence, as if the universe itself were giving you the answer you were seeking through seemingly unconnected events. One journalist describes it like this.

I used to be a reporter for the Cincinnati Enquirer, back in my 20s, and for roughly half of my decade-long tenure there I kept hearing a call to quit and become a freelance writer, a decision I largely ignored for years because it was Scary Stuff. However, after years of trying to ignore this call, the signs pointing toward it took on a whole new tack. This is how it began:

I was driving home from work one day, listening to a song on the radio called “Desperado,” by the Eagles, and as I pulled up to the curb in front of my house, the last line I heard before I turned off the car was “Don’t you draw the Queen of Diamonds, she’ll beat you if she’s able; the Queen of Hearts is always your best bet.” I turned off the ignition, opened the door, stepped my foot onto the curb, and there at my left foot was a playing card—the Queen of Hearts…(Source)

Now, I’m positive that everyone reading this has had an example(s) of synchronicity in their own lives as have I. The main difference being, whereas the unbeliever might attribute an event like this to either luck or fate, born-again believers would attribute these things to God, or at least some kind of ‘spiritual interference.’ In his cognizant attempt to assign meaning to these tangential events, he failed to address the source of these events appropriately. These things are not the ‘universe’ given you the answer, because the universe is not a living intelligent thing that could do that. Rather, these events are spiritually derived. The second concept is that of the complexico oppositorum or opposites for short.

Complexico oppositorum is simply the reality that evil, or the shadow, cannot be dismissed as a mere side-effect of the good. Evil is a fundamental component of existence. This fact alone places chaos and evil inside the order of God’s cosmos – and produces unfathomable madness and uncertainty among the spiritually inclined. (Source)

For Jung, evil’s existence was very much like the Chinese Yin and Yang. Evil complements the good much the same way darkness contrasts with the light. For if there was no evil, then we would not know what is good, or that the definition of good would be rather meaningless.

However, as Christians, even though we understand that while evil is both a spiritual and physical reality (something even the ungodly acknowledge to varying degrees), evil is not a requirement for God’s universe to exist. For example, during the Millennial Kingdom, evil will be greatly constrained after Satan is confined to the abyss. After Satan’s last rebellion, all those who are evil (both man and angel) will come to the Great White Throne for judgment, and then ALL evil will be vanquished forever from eternity future (Rev. 20:10-14). Thus, evil is not a requirement for good to exist.

God spoke the universe into existence ‘ex nihilo’ (out of nothing) and thus is the source for all intelligent actions and events that transpire therein. God does not require evil or darkness to exist in order for Him to…they are simply byproducts of created beings exercising their free will. God knew these things would happen beforehand (being omniscient), therefore, His planned interactions and counteractions were actually predetermined long before anything ever existed.

In other words, God the Father knew in eternity past, that Lucifer would rebel, and that he would tempt Eve and Adam, and in their fall, salvation would be a necessary requirement. Thus, He determined amongst His triune-self (the Godhead) that they would execute this salvation through both the Son (becoming a man) and the Spirit, drawing all men to the Son. Furthermore, the Son would satisfy the necessary justification from the Father so that all men could benefit, should they choose the free gift of salvation. The Holy Spirit would then seal those born-again persons into a permanent state (sanctification) until the redemption (glorification) occurred to retrieve those who belong to Him.

Assessment

But what of prophecy?

As the late Dr. Chuck Missler used to say, prophecy is just history written in advance.

God created the universe and used physical laws and systems to govern its perpetual existence. When sin was introduced into the picture (Lucifer’s rebellion), it set in motion a form of ‘cosmic entropy’ (if I can put it that way), and thus since the beginning, things have been winding down.

This entropic winding down explains the great rise in evil in our day. It also explains the connections between the seemingly unconnected events that consistently point to the end of our dispensation like road signs declaring an unwanted destination. When we warn our lost friends about this, we are drawing on a whole host of signs that are given to us in Scripture. Yet, to the unlearned and unbelieving, these are simply random and unconnected events. They cannot see the prophetic mosaic coming into view. For example, when we show the…

the rise of digital currency and biometric technologies

or that Israel is getting to the point where they want to rebuild their third temple

or the international push to create a global government

…they can’t see this is exactly what was foretold in Revelation nearly 2,000 years ago. For the unbeliever, these are all unconnected events. They cannot connect the dots like we do because they are either ignorant (don’t or can’t understand), or they are spiritually unstable (unwilling to accept it or want to pervert it). (2 Peter 3:16) Either way, this isn’t a rejection of your and my efforts; they are refusing to accept the Bible as the source of truth.

But so great is the Luciferian Zeitgeist today, that there are even unbelievers who are watching a global government forming and are speaking out against it (e.g., Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro, etc.). Unfortunately, they have a skewed misunderstanding of man’s future. They believe this trend towards globalism is purely ideological, and thus, is reversible, or preventable, if only we get the right politicians in place, or create the right political movements. They either don’t understand or severely underestimate the satanic spiritual undercurrents dragging mankind into this dark dystopian and apocalyptic future.

We even have ignorant and/or unstable Christians (with regards to Bible prophecy) who are muddying the waters even further by spouting all sorts of nonsense about what will happen. We’ve got the whole spectrum of fruitcakes out there. On one end, we have the folks who read prophecy into everything (YouTube videos, astrological signs, personal dreams and visions, numerology, gematria, planetary alignments, etc.) and come out naming dates for the Rapture. On the other end, we have those who are claiming we are already in the Tribulation (in the first four Seal Judgments) and stating the church will have to go through part or all of the Tribulation.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sensitive to the still small voice we can hear, and the impression God puts on us both individually and collectively as believers. These can be valid experiences so long as they don’t contradict what Scripture has already said. But when you come out and say, God told me…..or God spoke to me…..or God showed me…..then what you are saying is your dream, vision, encounter, or whatever, is equal with Scripture. Because if you say “God told me X, Y, and Z, and that is not in Scripture, then what you are saying is, “Thus sayeth the Lord.” You are saying God is adding new information to the canon of Scripture that He closed in Revelation and are treading on very dangerous ground.

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. Revelation 22:18-19

On the other end of the spectrum, we have those Christians with martyr complexes who ignore what the Bible says and insist we must go into the Tribulation and fight our way through it. They don’t realize how hopeless a proposition that really is, because with the exception of the 144,000 and the Two Witnesses, God gives the Antichrist total control over the earth.

It (the beast) was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. Rev. 13:7 (my edits)

Therefore, if what we believe is true (it is), then their whole survival paradigm begins to fall apart and they are either not ready to hear it, or simply refuse to believe it. But we can know with 100% confidence that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture view is true because even though we see events in the world trending toward prophetic fulfillment and not away from it, yet, things are still being restrained, which means it cannot happen until the Church is removed. Just like the Bible says.

Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 2 Thess. 2:5-8

Conclusion

When sharing Bible prophecy with our friends and family, we cannot convince them that we are in the last days. Even if you show them signs and point them toward the Bible, most will not believe. Satan has done a masterful job of blinding this generation to the nearness of Christ’s return, so much so, that it will largely catch the world off guard.

However, most people believe in coincidence, luck, or fate. These are common in most cultures.

I have begun simply pointing out the increasing number of ‘meaningful coincidences’ that are seemingly filling up our news feeds now on a daily basis. I point out that in the past, these “what is this world coming to?” events used to just happen on a yearly basis. But as time wore on, it began to fill our newsfeeds on a monthly basis. Then it was weekly. Now it’s daily. Can it really be a coincidence that all of these things are trending toward fulfilling Bible prophecy?

Is it just a coincidence that at the same time that Israel was reborn as a nation, Europe also began to coalesce back into a single empire (the EU)? (Daniel 9:26-27, Rev. 13:1)

Is it just a coincidence that at the same time the global economy is tanking, technology is transitioning our old fiat currency into a new digital one? (Rev. 13:16-18)

Is it a coincidence that medicine is also moving away from traditional treatments, into increasingly placing technology into the human body or rewriting our DNA? (Rev. 13:16-18)

Is it any coincidence that at the time that the United States is declining, Europe is ascending? (Rev. 17:12-18)

Is it any coincidence that as we draw nearer to the end, the once-solid evangelical Church is rapidly transforming into the ecumenically lukewarm (and nauseous) Laodicea? (Rev. 3:14-22)

Is it any coincidence that as Western Civilization is becoming more decadent, it is losing its ability to reason? (Gender identity, unborn babies, grooming, etc.) (Luke 21:25-26, Romans 1:18-32, 2 Tim. 3)

Is it any coincidence that as America is abandoning God and trying to divide the land of Israel, He is removing those protections He's put in place to bless her?

My three previous articles were all designed to highlight some significant shifts in the world today. The main point of Running out of Normal is the desensitization that is occurring in our generation, and how, pretty soon, we are not going to be shocked by much of anything any longer thus nullifying Luke 17:26-36.

The main point of Prophetic Redlines is, is that our generation has so many ‘point of no return’ redlines we are crossing, that we are quickly being thrust into dangerous territory. Furthermore, these red lines are not being foisted upon everyone by Hollywood or social media, but by government mandates.

The main point of Threadbare is that our way of life is no longer sustainable. We have to change and that is why globalists are pushing so hard for this final, global government (the beast) in the here and now. We are absolutely living on borrowed time. While I cannot and will not state a day or hour in which our Lord will return, given all that was put forth, not just by me, but by many watchers, is that we are running out of time to rescue those who can be saved. We share the Good News with a lost and dying world increasingly as Jude puts it.

Be merciful to those who doubt; save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh. Jude 1:23-24

Use Scripture.

If that alone will not convince them (but knowing God’s word will not return void), show them how the events of this world are not happening by accident, but are in fact, by design, and they point towards the end of days.

If they are still not convinced, point out all the seemingly “coincidences” that are trending toward biblical fulfillment, and not away from it.

For most that are regular readers of mine, you’re reading this because you are a watcher, and you are cognizant of the times in which we live. I feel very much like I’m preaching to the choir because I know you take this seriously and I don’t want to come across like I’m berating you. I’m not.

I’m speaking to the semi-serious Christians who accidentally stumbled across this site and this article. I’m speaking to those who are playing Christian on Sunday but getting sucked back into the world the other six days of the week. I’m speaking to the ones who are too timid to share the Gospel for fear of what others might say.

As Ed Hindson once said, “Bible prophecy is not meant to scare us, but to prepare us.”

If you don’t take Bible Prophecy seriously, then you grossly underestimate just how terrible those last wretched years will be. In just the first four judgments alone, nearly 2,000,000,000 will die. Another third will be killed in the ensuing Trumpet Judgments. After that, nearly the whole population will die between the Bowl Judgments and Armageddon.

The real tragedy is not that it will happen, but that so many of those alive today, don’t have to go through it.

Instead of living under the most tyrannical, authoritarian systems in man’s short history on earth, they could be in their glorified immortal bodies living in the most extravagant and mind-blowingly beautiful environment we can’t even conceive of

Instead of going through the horrors of the 21 divinely appointed judgments, they could be at the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, in Heaven

Instead of intense suffering on earth, and then even worse suffering in hell for all eternity, they could be redeemed now, simply by taking Jesus’ free gift of salvation

Is it a meaningful coincidence you came across this article?

Meaningful, yes.

Coincidence, no.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:16-17

[unlearner]

“Ad nauseum with you”

Odd way for a Christian to respond to a post ENTIRELY based on the Bible and conveniently providing the major passages being cited. It sounds more like what I’d expect from an atheist who hates God.

I’d prefer to never need to post on this subject by merit of the destructive error of the pre-trib rapture being rejected by mainstream Christianity, but it probably isn’t going to happen until Christ comes back.

Why is that my continued defense of a pre-wrath rapture based on the Bible is “ad nauseum”, while constant advocacy of the idea of how a pre-trib rapture is a supposed certainty is perfectly fine? Itching ears? A desire to only hear “smooth” prophecies rather than true ones?

Isaiah 30:10 NKJV
Who say to the seers, “Do not see,”
And to the prophets, “Do not prophesy to us right things;
Speak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits.”

“You are incorrect but you can keep believing whatever you wish and cherry pick scripture to suit your martyr complex.”

More irony.

I’m supposedly incorrect, but not one single person is able to demonstrate this from the Bible. They can only cite human opinions.

Dispensationalism is a fairly well supported theological position, but extending it to a pre-tribulational view always has been “cherry picking” scripture. It’s always argued anecdotally. There are “proof texts” that pre-rapturists cite in exactly the same manner cults cite scriptures (out of context).

I’ve searched and searched for anyone who has ever made the case for a pre-tribulational rapture through systematic exegesis. It does not exist.

Yet I’ve demonstrated over and over, straight from passages, in context, how the rapture MUST follow the Great Tribulation and then be subsequently followed by the Day of the Lord.

But people prefer their pet doctrines more than the word of God.

People claim to follow the Bible rather than man, but they fool themselves because they don’t. They don’t even know what the Bible says on the matter.

Your attempt to insult me with the term “martyr complex” is very revealing. I’m fairly cowardly about being tortured or killed for my faith. I cannot see how I will ever face that possibility. I can only hope that if and when such a thing happens, God will either rescue me or give me abilities I’ve never had. If it were up to me I’d prefer the pre-trib rapture teaching to be true.

Western Christianity is an anomaly. Due to the sacrifices of earlier generations of Christians, this nation has enjoyed relative peace, prosperity, and freedom. Most of us have never experienced much opposition to our faith firsthand. At least this is the case when comparing to the rest of the world and to historic Christianity going all the way back to Biblical times.

There are plenty of scriptures that indicate that trials, tribulations, persecutions, and afflictions are normative and even imperative for the Christian life.

1 Thessalonians 3:1-4 NKJV
Therefore, when we could no longer endure it, we thought it good to be left in Athens alone, and sent Timothy, our brother and minister of God, and our fellow laborer in the gospel of Christ, to establish you and encourage you concerning your faith, that no one should be shaken by these afflictions; for you yourselves know that we are appointed to this. For, in fact, we told you before when we were with you that we would suffer tribulation, just as it happened, and you know.

See? Appointed to affliction.

2 Timothy 3:12 NKJV
Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

John 16:33 NKJV
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.

According to the scriptures, Christians WILL suffer persecution and tribulation.

Only for SOME will this include martyrdom but, make no mistake, MARTYRDOM is part of real Christianity.

Victory, conquering, overcoming, joy, and peace are all promised in the context of being in spite of the mandatory hardships. These things are not promised on the basis that we will be free from hardships.

At least pre-tribulationists have this: looking forward to Christ’s return and giving this future event it’s proper significance. I will argue that those going through great affliction will not anticipate Christ’s return less. Those who reject the prosperity gospel that promises health, wealth, and “your best life now” should also rethink their expectations when it comes to the timing of the rapture.

Otherwise, those who do not may find themselves to be like the seed that was thrown on stony ground and withered under the sun:

Matthew 13:20-21 NKJV
But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles.

There is going to be a great apostasy and a great falling away by professing Christians during Daniel’s 70th week. It is another thing that MUST occur before the Day of the Lord. And I suspect that the false expectation Christians have of not having to be here when Antichrist comes will be a major factor in this apostasy.

Matthew 24:10 NKJV
And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.

II Thessalonians 2:3 NKJV
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition.

[Elsie]

I’m supposedly incorrect, but not one single person is able to demonstrate this from the Bible. They can only cite human opinions.

'Tis the curse of FR.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

What you are doing is cherry-picking verses and twisting the message to suit your preconceived notions.

You have a martyr complex.

I have provided Harpazo verses ad nauseum multiple times on these threads. You guys just drive right over them and ignore them. It’s a useless conversation with you.

May The Lord grant you your heart’s desire and enable you to suffer through the tribulation!

Have a great day!

[MHGinTN]

Who is the following identifying? ... and at the time John saw this vision there were far more than just twenty four countries where the Gospel had been preached:

Rev 5: and they sing a new song, saying, 'Worthy art thou to take the scroll, and to open the seals of it, because thou wast slain, and didst redeem us to God in thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,and didst make us to our God kings and priests, and we shall reign upon the earth.' [See Rev 1:5&6 before you answer, for there is the great clue too many miss in interpreting Rev 5]

[SouthernClaire]

Re: Question on Revelation 5

I’m going to put my hand in the air and give it a go.

It is Israel because they are the only ones in scripture said to be kings and priests to God. Also, they will reign on earth as God has said, and we are in the heavenlies.

Hate to ask, Professor: Pass or fail?

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Too many folks ignore too many verses.
It gets old - really old.

Those of us who look towards His coming will receive a crown. The Crown of Righteousness.

I find it ironic that some of the most hateful people towards Christians who want to be with Christ are other supposed “Christians”.

Christians should hate the world and want to be with Him. Not all apparently. On top of putting God in a box and assuming He can’t or won’t do certain things, they apply normalcy bias to Him and never even consider what He’s done in the past or what He promises He will do in the future.

[MHGinTN]

‘Redeemed by the blood of the lamb’ ... in the Yum Pipur ritual there was not satisfaction once for all forever. The substitute blood had to be sprinkled each year. A second clue is redeemed out of every nation, tribe, kindred, and tongue ... the Jew is a single race not many to which redemption has come. Third clue is the timing, before the Jews make the pact with death/the antichrist. Israel’s redemption is yet future at the opening of the first seal, they are still in unbelief when the seals start being opened, an event witnessed by the redeemed by the His blood. I noted the opening of the revelation since the message starts with the churches and it is to the redeemed in those churches and ages addressed in the first five chapters. Jesus made it plain that He was addressing those His blood had redeemed out of evey nation, kindred, tribe, and tongue. He addresses the Ekklesia niot Israel in the Revelation..

[SouthernClaire]

You’re too kind to say it, but I’m not: I failed!

Thank you for taking the time you do on this board to teach, MHG. I’d be lost without you half the time. God bless you.

[MHGinTN]

Thanks be to God for it is His Spirit due the thanks for anything this old man offers.

[sasportas]

The scripture says, that the crown of righteousness, will be given to “all them that love his appearing” “at that day,” And that day is the day he comes to judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom,” 2 Tim. 4:8 with the first verse of that chapter.

When he appears is when the kingdom is ushered in, when the righteous who love his appearing will receive their crowns of righteousness. That kingdom is the millennial kingdom, and is when his appearing takes place, and the quick and the dead are judged.

We see that appearing in Rev. 19:11-21, ushering in the kingdom in 20:1-6. Just like Paul said, “at his appearing and kingdom.”

Sorry, old pal, but there is no pretrib rapture in the “crown of righteousness” passage you cited.

[Taxman]

How about a “Reverse Rapture?”

I.e., all the EVIL people disappear into Hell, and the Righteous stay to inherit the earth?

THAT is a Rapture that works for me!

[Roman_War_Criminal]

I’ll be given the Crown of Righteousness as everybody else who Loves His Appearing.

We disagree on the Pretrib Rapture. You repeating that it’s not “going to happen” won’t make it go away.

You’ll just have to deal with it when we meet in the clouds ;)

[MHGinTN]

When He appears we shall see Him as He is for we shall be like Him. As He is now He is not visible to the current iteration of mankind. BUT in His glorified body when He comes in the air to removes us, we shall have been changed int he twinkling of an eye, to be in glorified bodies like His, so we shall be able to see Him. The earthdweller? Not so much.

[sasportas]

It’s not me that makes the pretrib rapture to go away, its the apostle Paul whom we both quote all the time. He’s the one who said the crown of righteousness will be given “at his appearing and kingdom.” Your problem is with the apostle Paul, not me.

He said the same in 1 Cor. 15:50-54. “in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump” is when “we shall all be changed, and we “inherit the kingdom of God.” Same as in 2 Tim. 4:1, “at his appearing and kingdom.”

Why is that so hard for you accept, RWC? When he appears, his second coming, that is when the last trump sounds, and our flesh and blood bodies are changed to inherit the kingdom of God. The resurrection, in other words, the rapture, in other words.

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.” No, it can’t, our flesh and blood bodies have to be changed to enter the kingdom of God, the millennial kingdom...which we both as premillennialists believe.

The rapture is when the change takes place, not seven years prior, it’s when he comes to bring in the millennial kingdom seven years later.

That’s what this passage says, man. Likewise, 2 Tim. 4:1, “At his appearing and kingdom.”

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Amen Brother!
The verses speak for themselves. We who believe and put our trust in Our King, Our Savior, Our Messiah - have so much to look forward to.

John 14:1-3
Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

1 Thess. 1:10
and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.

1 Thess.4:13-18

13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

1 Thess. 5:9
For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Cor. 15:51-56

51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”[a]

55 “Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?”[b]

56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Rev. 3:10

Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth

See you in the clouds! 👍

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Again - we disagree. For the 100th time!
No sale!

I’m frankly done arguing with you. It’s amazing that supposed Christians wish to troll other Christians and give them a hard time about very logical & Biblical doctrine.
Satan is working hard to confuse and deceive - I’m not playing.

We disagree and you can either do one of two things from this point forward:

1. Skip over these posts and move on
2. Continue to troll and act like a clown on these Eschatological posts, which hundreds of people read.

Your choice.
From now on, your posts to me will be ignored.

I will continue to look forward to the Harpazo/Rapture daily.

You can pound sand and continue living in the misery you wish to push on others who have Great Hope.

Bye!

[MHGinTN]

Amen! See you int he clouds at the pre-trib Rapture, Brother.

[sasportas]

These passages you quote here, RWC, are by the same apostle Paul who said Christ’s coming is when he brings in the millennial kingdom. These verses you quote here are speaking about the same event.

As to “O death, where is thy sting? (v. 55), he is applying Isa. 25:8,9, which premillennial Bible expositors agree, is taken from a millennial setting. Applying it to the ressurection and rapture when the millennial is ushered in.

When “He shall swallow of death in victory, the Lord God will wipe away all tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth...And it shall be said IN THAT DAYy, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation,” v. 8, 9.

Paul apples this eschatological salvation to “his appearing and kingdom.” Again, not seven years prior, but “at that day” when the millennial kingdom has arrived.

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Back in post 26, you called those who disagree with the pretrib rapture, “hateful.” And now, after reading your last post here, it sounds more like you that has the hateful spirit.

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Typo:

When “He shall swallow up death in victory...”