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1 posted on 06/04/2022 9:16:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Black and Brown Churches are violating the Johnson amendment all the time. Nobody ever say anything.


2 posted on 06/04/2022 9:20:22 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

dump the 503c!!


3 posted on 06/04/2022 9:33:24 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Sadly, most religious institutions kneel at the altar of the TaxExempt goddess according to 501c3.....

I have separated from such by simple inspection of their status.


5 posted on 06/04/2022 9:47:32 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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Sadly, most religious institutions kneel at the altar of the TaxExempt goddess according to 501c3.....

I have separated from such by simple inspection of their status.


6 posted on 06/04/2022 9:48:07 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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President Trump tried to get rid of the Johnson Amendmant but could not get it done legislatively. He did instruct the IRC not to go after religious organizations for implied endorsements in instances where other 5013c organizations would not be effected. Since President Trump was the President for all Americans, the IRS probably acted even-handed during his as administration.

With the Dems in charge, all bets are off.


7 posted on 06/04/2022 9:48:48 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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‘Many Pastors have used the Johnson Amendment as a cover to justify their refusal to Biblically inform congregants about political issues.’

yes of course, because the Bible is just chock full of overt references to the political climate of 2022...


8 posted on 06/04/2022 9:54:09 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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They can do want they want, but I don’t go to church to hear about politics. Give people a Christian foundation on which to build their lives. Address the issues of the day from a Christian point of view. Then let people figure it out for themselves when they vote or become politically active. Ideally, that foundation will help them figure out other things in their lives as well.

We have all known someone who shapes his Christianity to conform to his secular worldview. Needless to say, that’s backwards. I am reminded of Lincoln’s comment that what is important is not thinking that God is on our side, but endeavoring to make sure we are on God’s side. .And every time I go to Divine Liturgy, I am reminded, “Put not your trust in princes, nor in the sons of men, in whom there is no help...”


9 posted on 06/04/2022 9:56:02 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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There is a group of Pastors who set a specific Sunday rach year to defy the Johnson amendment while daring the IRS to come after them which has never happened.

Pastors who obey the rule are pansies.

11 posted on 06/04/2022 10:08:21 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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My pastor says it this way:

Mixing politics and religion is like mixing manure and ice cream.

It doesn't hurt the manure but it ruins the ice cream.

14 posted on 06/04/2022 12:49:20 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It was always my understanding that churches were only prohibited from actually actively endorsing political parties or candidates and telling their congregants who to vote for.

Discussing the sin and evil of topics like abortion and homosexuality is not political endorsement, even if the left tries to make it that way.

Murder and sexual sin are MORAL issues, not political ones, and a pastor’s duty is to equip the body for the work of the ministry and to teach truth, and if thar means calling out sexual sin and murder, then so be it.


15 posted on 06/04/2022 1:21:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The church stands to lose its tax exemption. No church should sign on for that exemption because it eliminates their real status as a church independent of the State. By signing they have to follow the State’s rules. The rules are elastic, of course. Preaching support for left wing politicians will keep a church in good standing. Preaching against abortion is iffy and supporting non left politicians will at least get threats against tax free status. Churches are tas exempt under the 1st Amendment anyway. it just takes several to fight it out in the courts. So far only an occasional single church sect has tried and ben shot down with property confiscated and attempts to put liens on pastors’ church derived incomes. It needs to be many churches doing the challenge singly and in concert.


16 posted on 06/04/2022 2:01:02 PM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe )
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If a church registered with the government as a 501-c3, it is owned by the government.


17 posted on 06/04/2022 7:28:44 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Wake up! The Philistines are upon you!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

My understanding is that pastors were always able to speak about the spiritual side of issues, just not about the political parties or politicians.

Of course, with the way things are going now, just mentioning pro-life or pro-traditional family scriptures may be enough to cause a vicious, punishing ordeal before, if you’re lucky, a judge finds the accusations against you unconstitutional.


18 posted on 06/04/2022 9:04:06 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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bookmarking this thread to read later.


20 posted on 02/16/2024 7:01:51 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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