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Religious beliefs give strength to the anti-abortion movement – but not all religions agree
yahoo ^ | May 11, 2022 | Steven K. Green, Professor of Law, Director of the Center for Religion, Law & Democracy, Willamette

Posted on 05/11/2022 6:59:01 PM PDT by Morgana

The leaked draft of Justice Samuel Alito’s opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which has sent shock waves across the United States, indicates that a majority of Supreme Court justices will likely overturn the constitutional right to an abortion granted in Roe v. Wade. Employing unusually harsh language, Alito declared that “Roe and Planned Parenthood v.Casey must be overruled” because of the decisions’ “abuse of judicial authority.”

“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito wrote, and its “reasoning was exceptionally weak.”

He also asserted that neither abortion nor privacy is mentioned in the text of the Constitution, nor should they be considered to be “deeply rooted in the Nation’s history or traditions” so as to be worthy of protection.

As a professor of constitutional law who has taught about reproductive rights for more than 20 years, I argue that Alito’s legal reasoning leaves out several established constitutional principles also not mentioned in the text – such as separation of powers and executive privilege – as well as rights that conservatives hold near and dear like the right to marry and parental rights.

Alito’s claim that a right to an abortion “was entirely unknown in American law” until Roe is unfounded. Historically, abortion was not completely illegal, even in Puritan New England. The first abortion restrictions were enacted in the U.S. in the 1820s.

Even then, they generally outlawed abortions only after “quickening,” the early equivalence of fetal viability – the ability to survive outside the mother’s womb. Alito’s legal rationales aside, the legal debate over abortion is as much a religious dispute as it is a constitutional one. Religious opposition

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TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; roevswade; stevengreen; stevenkgreen
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1 posted on 05/11/2022 6:59:01 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

According to Jewish tradition a fetus is not considered viable until it graduates from Medical School.


2 posted on 05/11/2022 7:03:23 PM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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To: Morgana

According to Jewish tradition a fetus is not considered viable until it graduates from Medical School.


3 posted on 05/11/2022 7:03:45 PM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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To: Morgana

It’s stupid making it religious. Just plain murder.


4 posted on 05/11/2022 7:04:00 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Morgana

The dude claims that the Catholic Church didn’t have any teaching on abortion before the 16th Century. BS.

The Catholic Church explicitly proscribed abortion since before the Bible was written. From the Didache (c. 65AD):

“Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Grave Sin Forbidden. And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born...”

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html


5 posted on 05/11/2022 7:07:19 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: Morgana
"will likely overturn the constitutional right to an abortion"

Well since there is no constitutional right to an abortion, rightly so. It falls under the 10th amendment instead.
6 posted on 05/11/2022 7:07:40 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Morgana
Historically, abortion was not completely illegal, even in Puritan New England. The first abortion restrictions were enacted in the U.S. in the 1820s.

Because there was no need to, for it was against the Lord's law.

7 posted on 05/11/2022 7:07:51 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Morgana

Oh, goodie! Another thoroughly stupid Yapoo article.


8 posted on 05/11/2022 7:09:19 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Morgana

It’s really not a Religious Issue. We all know that murder is wrong except in self defense. Period!!


9 posted on 05/11/2022 7:11:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Morgana

The old New England argument he uses is like justifying stealing beer from the store by pointing out Mom told you not to steal candy. She didn’t make a rule not to steal beer, after all.


10 posted on 05/11/2022 7:13:06 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Morgana

I am pro-life because God is.
All a person needs is simple understanding & consideration of human life, to be pro-life. A woman hosts another life for 9 months. A woman doesn’t have a penis because she has a male baby. Not her body.
You don’t have to be religious.


11 posted on 05/11/2022 7:17:53 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Morgana
a majority of Supreme Court justices will likely overturn the constitutional right to an abortion granted in Roe v. Wade.

If the court granted the right then the court can take it away.

12 posted on 05/11/2022 7:33:19 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Morgana

bump


13 posted on 05/11/2022 7:33:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If science can’t be questioned, it’s not science anymore, it’s propaganda. --Aaron Rodgers)
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To: Morgana

Even if I were the most hardcore atheist on the planet, I would still be pro-life. The issue at it’s core is that it is the unjust and savage murder of the most innocent of human lives— the baby inside it’s mother’s womb. This is where every abortion debate should focus. Every other argument against it, no matter how legitimate, is still a secondary diversion to the real issue.


14 posted on 05/11/2022 7:35:09 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domi/i><p>! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Well since there is no constitutional right to an abortion, rightly so. It falls under the 10th amendment instead.

And that is another weakness of the author's argument!

15 posted on 05/11/2022 7:36:02 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: markomalley; Morgana
Anathagoras of Athens, Apology of Anathagorus;

https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/athenagoras.html

ATHENAGORAS: Circa 175-190 AD

[TRANSLATED BY THE REV. B. P. PRATTEN.]

A PLEA FOR THE CHRISTIANS BY ATHENAGORAS THE ATHENIAN: PHILOSOPHER AND CHRISTIAN

To the Emperors Marcus Aurelius Anoninus and Lucius Aurelius Commodus, conquerors of Armenia and Sarmatia, and more than all, philosophers.

(He disputes the charges that Christians Murder and then commit cannibalism, a common charge due to a misunderstanding of the sacrement.) Chapter XXXV "snip...For when they know that we cannot endure even to see a man put to death, though justly; who of them can accuse us of murder or cannibalism? Who does not reckon among the things of greatest interest the contests of gladiators and wild beasts, especially those which are given by you? But we, deeming that to see a man put to death is much the same as killing him, have abjured such spectacles. How, then, when we do not even look on, lest we should contract guilt and pollution, can we put people to death? And when we say that those women who use drugs to bring on abortion commit murder, and will have to give an account to God s for the abortion, on what principle should we commit murder?...snip"

16 posted on 05/11/2022 7:39:32 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Morgana

True. Canaanites would have loved abortion.


17 posted on 05/11/2022 7:41:50 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: MattMusson

Funny, but false.

And I’m afraid some idiot will take you seriously.

Under Jewish law, abortion is forbidden unless carrying the child to term will almost certainly result in the death of the mother (eg and ectopic pregnancy).


18 posted on 05/11/2022 7:43:39 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Morgana
I know what the Buddhist teaching is on when a life begins (conception) but the scientific POV seems a better way to convince a nation of many religions to me.

At the moment of conception a new being comes into existence with the characteristic of constantly replicating its own cells according to the coding of its DNA. It has unique DNA that, with the exception of identical twins, no other being has ever or will ever again have. Those are defining characteristics of a discrete living being. Its DNA is specifically human which categorically makes it a living human being.

The question of whether it has a spirit, a soul or a mind may not be possible to answer with science but science does answer, without equivocation, that it is an individual living human being from the moment of conception or at least very shortly after when the two half-strands of DNA combine.


19 posted on 05/11/2022 7:44:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Is it time for a general strike yet?)
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To: fidelis

If you were a hardcore atheist, on what basis would you protect innocent human life but kill innocent birds and animals?


20 posted on 05/11/2022 8:06:16 PM PDT by nwrep
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