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What is behind the papal strangulation of the old Mass?
Rorate Caeli ^ | December 24, 2021 | Fr Christopher Basden

Posted on 12/24/2021 7:50:25 AM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 12/24/2021 7:50:25 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 12/24/2021 7:51:21 AM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

“What is behind the papal strangulation of the old Mass? “

simple — satan

just ask the church lady !!


3 posted on 12/24/2021 7:51:41 AM PST by George from New England
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To: ebb tide

You are witnessing agnostic rage in a self loathing old man. He is a man who hated the way he led his life.


4 posted on 12/24/2021 7:58:05 AM PST by allendale
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To: ebb tide
What is behind the papal strangulation of the old Mass?

The Society of Jesus.

5 posted on 12/24/2021 7:58:37 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets........Now, we are them.)
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To: ebb tide

The ImPopester.

He is a tool of Satan.


6 posted on 12/24/2021 8:01:55 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: allendale

He should have stayed a bartender.


7 posted on 12/24/2021 8:04:42 AM PST by BipolarBob (WHY are there no Democrats on Mt. Rushmore?)
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To: ebb tide

Maybe because the pope is an indoctrinated, hateful leftist?


8 posted on 12/24/2021 8:06:28 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: ebb tide

I’ll take a stab at it and say Progressive Postmodernism within the RCC?

What do I win??


9 posted on 12/24/2021 8:08:06 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: ebb tide
The same thing that's behind the January 6 show trials.


10 posted on 12/24/2021 8:08:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: allendale

Any parallel to The Bidet?


11 posted on 12/24/2021 8:22:37 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Roccus

The head Jesuit is a Venezuelan communist, supporter of Hugo Chavez.


12 posted on 12/24/2021 8:39:50 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: ebb tide
It's really simple. The traditional Catholic movement is a colossal embarrassment to the modern "Catholic Church."

While parishes are being closed all over the place and many dioceses in the church are in bankruptcy in the aftermath of the massive lawsuits related to sex abuse by priests, the traditional movement is flourishing in many parts of the world.

13 posted on 12/24/2021 8:46:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: ebb tide

Hasn’t this been going on for 60 years?


14 posted on 12/24/2021 8:48:27 AM PST by x
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To: Roccus

I’m not sure I agree. As much as there are major, severe problems with the Jesuits (e.g., the homosexualist tilt promoted by Fr Jim Martin SJ etc), the fact is that Bergoglio was long alienated from the Society. His tenure as provincial in Argentina was characteristically disastrous, and most of the local Jesuits, left, right & center, hated the man. He was exiled to backwater assignments until John Paul 2 rescued him from obscurity to make him an auxiliary bishop. The Jesuits begged JP2 to NOT appoint him on the grounds of his quarrelsome, unstable personality. But JP2 ignored the Jesuits’ warnings, assuming that they were just attacking Bergoglio because he was a “conservative” (unbelievably, that really was the rap on him). The Jesuits reportedly had a thick file on Bergoglio in their headquarters in Rome, but the documents were purged upon his election in 2013. In any case, given his estrangement from the Society, it makes little sense to imagine that Bergoglio’s agenda is dictated by the S.J.s. He doesn’t need them to be diabolical. He’s doing fine on his own.


15 posted on 12/24/2021 8:59:17 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide
The problem lies with those who implemented and bastardized Vatican II.

"may" became "shall" and what was prescribed was abandoned.

"It was largely what came afterwards, with the explosive and revolutionary ‘implementation’ of the Council. The vast majority of bishops had no say (let alone anyone else) in the promulgation of the reformed Mass."

"However, at the Synod of Bishops in 1967 it is on record that only a minority of bishops present approved the New Order of Mass. Cardinal Heenan prophesied it would result in dwindling numbers. In spite of this, the Consilium pushed it through, calling on all to be a obedient to the “spirit of Vatican II.”

"Cardinal Ottaviani, then head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, complained that the new Mass marked a “striking departure” from the solemnly defined Catholic Eucharistic theology of the Council of Trent."

"In many ways it can be demonstrated that the Consilium’s new Mass was in no way what was envisaged by the Fathers at Vatican II. For example, the Council asks that “Latin is to be retained in all the rites” (it totally disappeared) and “Gregorian chant is to have pride of place” (It sadly has had no place at all!)"

16 posted on 12/24/2021 9:14:40 AM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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To: ebb tide

I know a lady who works for a diocese in MA. She speaks with complete derision about the Lain Mass, like it’s some negative thing that needs to go away.


17 posted on 12/24/2021 9:29:17 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: George from New England
“What is behind the papal strangulation of the old Mass? “...simple — satan...just ask the church lady !!

I was going to say the same thing, except, "just ask an exorcist." Most of them will tell you that satan and his minions loathe the Latin Mass.

18 posted on 12/24/2021 9:33:53 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: ebb tide

So what can we do about this, other than pray?


19 posted on 12/24/2021 10:17:57 AM PST by ptcmama ( )
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To: ebb tide

Can you say Satan?


20 posted on 12/24/2021 10:58:33 AM PST by kagnew
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