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Cardinal Defends Latin Mass Against Francis’ Crusade
Gloria TV ^ | June 12, 2021 | Gloria TV

Posted on 06/14/2021 11:54:49 AM PDT by ebb tide

Cardinal Defends Latin Mass Against Francis’ Crusade

Hong Kong Cardinal Joseph Zen, 89, is worried about possible restrictions Francis may impose on the Traditional Latin Mass.

On his blog OldYosef.hkdavc.com (June 12), he makes a point in stressing that he is "clearly not considered an extremist" of the Roman Rite and that he has worked actively for the Novus Ordo as a priest and bishop.

Nevertheless, Zen cannot deny the good that came from the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum. Through the Roman Rite, many young people of Hong Kong have "rediscovered the sense of adoration and reverence we owe to God, our Creator.”

Zen writes that he “cannot forget" the Mass of his childhood. In Shanghai, his father took him to Mass every day and to five Masses on Sunday [while it would be impossible for a contemporary boy to stand the verbiage of five Novus Ordo services in a row].

As a boy, Zen felt the deep reverence of the Roman Rite and was fascinated by the beauty of the Gregorian chant. This experience has nourished his vocation to the priesthood, “as in the case of so many others.”



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; dictatorpope; tlm; zen

1 posted on 06/14/2021 11:54:49 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/14/2021 11:55:29 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Why have a church service in a language that nobody speaks or understands?

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3 posted on 06/14/2021 12:09:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide to be happy............. Nightbirde)
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To: Red Badger

Because it’s beautiful and puts one in a meditative mood.


4 posted on 06/14/2021 12:10:54 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: ebb tide
Jesus said "Do this in remembrance of Me".

He didn't prescribe the details. Presumably Jesus left it up to those doing the remembering. It seems to me that the Pope interfering in this celebration by believers moves the emphasis from Christ to the Pope. It also demonstrates the complete lack of Christian humility on the Pope's part.

In my opinion the Pope is an Argentine leftist street thug, devoid of any Godly intentions.

5 posted on 06/14/2021 12:13:45 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (I dindu nuffins.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

If this Pope thought he could get away with moving fast enough, Jesus would be out of the Church next.


6 posted on 06/14/2021 12:18:00 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Red Badger

It’s a “dead” language — which means it isn’t subject to changes that degrade the content or meaning of what is written and said over time.


7 posted on 06/14/2021 12:19:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Alberta's Child

While that is certainly true, and that’s why it’s used in scientific classification, no one who hears it spoken aside from some elderly priests and college profs that still teach it, it has no more meaning to the hearer than Mandarin Chinese to a aborigine.

If you want to spread the gospel, use the language of the listener. That what the Day of Pentecost showed us....................


8 posted on 06/14/2021 12:24:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide to be happy............. Nightbirde)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t agree, but if you want a secular “church” you are on the right path. And that’s what’s coming, churches will be the equivalent of social clubs in twenty years if the Left has its way.


9 posted on 06/14/2021 12:35:09 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Red Badger
Latin is used for the Mass and other formal ceremonies. Everything beyond that is done in the local vernacular. Every Latin prayer book I've ever seen contains the English translations for all the prayers.

Interestingly, the universal nature of Latin makes it ideal for global proselytization. It's ideal for churches in national capitals where diplomats from many different countries live. If each one of them shows up at a Latin Mass with his own missal, nobody will have any trouble following the Mass in his own language.

10 posted on 06/14/2021 1:00:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Red Badger
If you want to spread the gospel, use the language of the listener. That what the Day of Pentecost showed us....

We, I am presuming you aren't a Catholic, certainly use the local language to evangelize and share the good news of the risen savior. We have done so for 2,000 years. However, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is an ancient sacrament instituted by Jesus Christ himself at the Last Supper. It has been done in Latin for eons. It doesn't matter at all whether the audience is entertained by it or even understands it. The recent use of the vernacular language, if anything, has arguably only served to reduce people's understanding of it.

11 posted on 06/14/2021 1:14:38 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Red Badger

The Mass is a prayer. It’s not primarily about “spreading the Gospel,” but about worshipping God. In ancient times, the catechumens were led out of the church after the first part of the liturgy was over.


12 posted on 06/14/2021 2:17:36 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: ebb tide
He deserves to have a book written about him.

Zen and the Art of Tridentine Maintenance.

13 posted on 06/14/2021 4:24:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Red Badger

God doesn’t understand Latin? Besides, most of the Mass is not celebrated for YOU; it is directed toward God.

You clearly don’t know what the Catholic Mass is about.


14 posted on 06/14/2021 4:35:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Red Badger

Because it’s not a service.


15 posted on 06/14/2021 5:10:07 PM PDT by Marchmain (If you're vaccinated, why do I need to wear a mask?)
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