Posted on 05/29/2021 10:33:28 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
My just-released novel, MICHAEL: Last-Days Lightning, which all too briefly, but nonetheless, thankfully, went to number one in Christian fiction on Amazon, has sparked the beginning of a follow-up novel. I’ve tentatively given the next novel the title MESSIAH: The Prince That Shall Come.
The story will build on the protagonist’s experiencing Bible prophecy fulfillment while in a state of having dreams and visions as the result of a serpent bite he received while he was on the Island of Patmos. MESSIAH will deal with Antichrist coming to power as the world’s greatest deceiver. This understanding is based upon Jesus’ words:
I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. (John 5:43)
Lord willing, the novel will be the third of the books that began with REVELATIONS: The Rapture Generation, in which Tyce Grayson received that snake bite.
The purpose of mentioning all of that—along with, of course, admittedly hoping to promote the novels—is that while researching for writing the third novel, I cogitated on some things about the Antichrist I’ve often wondered about over the years.
One of the primary things that has piqued my thinking—and imagination—is that there are two people in God’s Word who are given the title “son of perdition.”
British theologian Arthur W. Pink (1886–1952) more or less framed the idea that provided impetus for my thinking.
As we have seen, in John 17:12 Christ termed Judas “the Son of Perdition,” and 2 Thess.2:3 we find that the Antichrist is similarly designated—“That Man of Sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition.” These are the only two places in all the Bible where his name occurs, and the fact that Judas was termed by Christ not a “son of perdition,” but “the Son of Perdition,” and the fact that the Man of Sin is so named prove that they are one and the same person. What other conclusion can a simple and unprejudiced reader of the Bible come to? (from The Antichrist, by A. W. Pink, https://www.ccel.org/ccel/p/pink/antichrist/cache/antichrist.pdf)
Pink went on to write that he believed Antichrist, the son of perdition, will be a reincarnated individual. There isn’t sufficient space in this commentary to totally explain his thinking, but I recommend that you read at the link given above if you’re interested in why he believed this.
I can’t fully embrace this notion because of my bias against the belief in reincarnation by those held by Hindus in India and other places, and the fact that God’s Word says it is appointed unto man once to die, then comes the judgment.
That steels the notion against reincarnation in my mind, but leaves open the possibility for a return from the dead in the case of this one man—Judas Iscariot, who was apparently lost from the beginning, according to Jesus Himself in His prayer as recorded by John:
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. (John 17: 12)
I, nor anyone, can fully explain to my satisfaction why Judas went to “his own place” upon death, or why he was apparently instructed by Jesus to do what he was supposed to do at the Last Supper—i.e., go betray the Lord to the Judaizers and the Romans. We see these strange things in the following verses:
And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. (John 13: 27)
After Judas committed suicide, the disciples sought to replace him as the twelfth member of their group with one of two other men. They wanted the now resurrected and ascended Jesus to tell them what to do.
And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. (Acts 1:24–25)
We come then back to Arthur Pink’s statement that both Judas Iscariot and the one who will be Antichrist are called not “a” son of perdition, but “the” son of perdition. These are the only two who are so-designated as this evil individual.
Pink goes on, in depth, to point out that Judas was called by Jesus “devil.”
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. (John 6: 70–71)
This, Pink believed, meant that Judas was so possessed by a supernatural evil spirit–by Satan himself—that he was lost without chance of redemption. This certainly seems to be the case, considering the total context of what we know about Judas Iscariot and about salvation as given in God’s Word.
The key word in the matter seems to me to be the word “men.” Was Judas a “man” at the time of his accepting the sop given by Jesus,? Or was he something other?
We look again at the Scripture verse about death and judgment:
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (Hebrews 9: 27)
Yet Judas Iscariot died, by his own hand, and went to “his own place.” Still, he is “the son of perdition”—same as Antichrist’s designation. Not “a” son of perdition, but “the” son of perdition.
Further, Pink writes the following.
It is hardly necessary to say that in the Greek there are two different words for “Devil” and “demon.” There are many demons, but only one Devil. Further, in no other passage is the word “devil” applied to any one but to Satan himself. Judas then was the Devil incarnate, just as the Lord Jesus was God incarnate. Christ Himself said so, [as recorded in John 6:70–71] and we dare not doubt His word. (Ibid.)
Pink then refers to the following Scripture to round out his thinking on the matter of Judas Iscariot being one and the same as the future Antichrist—a reincarnation, of sorts.
The Beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition. (Revelation 17:8)
He points out that most expositors of his time held that Revelation 17:11 referred to the final form of Rome as the last world empire over which Antichrist will rule. But his implication was that they denied that an actual being will come from the bottomless pit as that Antichrist character (verse 8). Pink maintains that it is Judas Iscariot in a reincarnation. But it is a supernatural man, indwelt by an evil spirit like no other.
He writes:
In Matt.12:43 the Antichrist is called “The Unclean Spirit,” not merely an unclean spirit, but “the Unclean Spirit.”…
[In] the writer’s mind there is no doubt whatever that none other than the Beast is here in view. If this be the case, then we have further evidence that the coming One will be no mere man indwelt by Satan, but a fallen angel, an evil spirit, the incarnation of the Devil. (Ibid.)
I’m not at all sure about the term reincarnation in this case. There certainly is something profound connecting Judas Iscariot and the one who will be Antichrist, however. This “beast” will be wounded as unto death, then supposedly brought back to life at the midpoint of the Tribulation—another strange element to consider.
My own thinking revolves around the prophecy that foretells the first and second beasts of Revelation being thrown directly in the lake of fire. They apparently get no time of judgment before the Great White Throne as do men of the human sort. These are apparently already judged. This, to me, means they might not be or any longer have human, redeemable traits, so are summarily cast into that final place of the damned. Nephilim? I don’t know, but it’s interesting to contemplate.
Bottom line is that if you don’t know Jesus Christ for salvation of your soul, you will end up in the place where these two beings, the Antichrist and the False Prophet, will spend all of eternity.
Here’s how to avoid their fate as well as the fate of Satan, who will be the third being thrown into that place of eternal punishment.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9–10)
The fact that the Adventist non Christian cult has as a statement of belief that Jesus is just the angel Michael!?
Yup, that’s true.
The website you get your theology from, that you linked in your answer also says that McDonald’s burgers have human meat and that Martians are living in Alabama.
I’m guessing that’s official Seventh day Adventist theology along with your belief that Jesus is just an angel
That 'mark of the beast' is taken willingly, because the children have not done their home work ... One ceases to be Christian when they worship a fake Jesus...
I do not know what the rapturites think the 'tribulation' that Christ said 'time' was shortened for the elects sake ... but according to Christ 'wars and rumors of wars' were not the end ... the opposite of wars and rumors of wars is 'peace', 'peace', 'peace'... No self respecting fake Jesus is going to be letting blood, rather they would be play acting like they were Jesus ... Do you love me? or as the devil tempted Christ to bend His knee...
Ezekiel 28 lays out Lucifer and his rebellion, and Satan was never called a 'fallen angel'... check out Jude.
There have been plenty of 'humans' in the flesh that have followed Satan, and still do, some in total complete ignorance.
Sounds really 'holy'. Almost as 'holy' as the Only Begotten Son giving His flesh body for US to attain salvation...
“Rome already has built a temple to him.”
I know that my dad believed the anti-Christ will come out of Rome, as do many other ministers I’ve known through the years. Could be. Or it could be the False Prophet that comes from Rome.
We don’t know — can only speculate.
Christ said for the elects sake time would be shortened ... that is how good the play actor is going to be in seducing the inhabitants of this globe. Parable of the 10 virgins come to mind ... The final act is not going to take a 7 year tribulation ... A woman in trivial does not last years, but rather months ... time of the locust..
“The ‘anti-Christ’ will appeal to all”
Yes. I’d forgotten that. And Frank is hated more and more every day. Could be a “smoother” and more likable pope will appear soon to replace Frank.
In my circles, Frank, is rather well liked and viewed as 'holy father'... I suppose it depends on the circuit riders of where priests get planted .. Frankie is a communists and my perspective he has moved to make Rome more Aztec than Roman... This 'earth' or as I have called them 'dirt worshipers', meaning man has control over the climate is about the same as Billy Gates plotting and planning to pollute the atmosphere to cool the 'sun'.
Is giving up a favored sin better than clinging to it while denying its existence?
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The ‘anti-Christ’ will appeal to all, except those that know who he literally is... The Muslim world is not going to accept a twisted Frankie, no matter how much he appeases them .
Muslims already wander after a Roman Beast and Antichrist.
It’s called false goddess frigg day.
Judaism already wander after a Roman Beast and Antichrist.
It’s called false God saturn day.
The first/chief importance of Paul’s gospel is Passover, Unleavened Bread and First Fruits.
Those are the Father’s 6th day, 7th Day Sabbath, 1st work day.
Scripture can confirm that, yet Islam, Judaism and Christianity do not believe that.
Paul and the Pope don’t have the same gospel of the same Jesus.
Islam and Judaism is absolutely wandering after the Roman Beast and Antichrist.
Willingly. Blindly.
How much of Christianity is too?
Pope Gregory calendar isn’t a Roman Catholic calendar. It’s a Judeo Christian based calendar.
Maybe Sarah’s greatest deceit is convincing the world that the Passover Lamb was slain on some false goddess day that the Roman Beast and Antichrist Papacy/Pope sells.
Yes, the "Mark of the Beast" (MOTB) is taken willingly, with full acceptance of the Antichrist/Beast as ruler. Nobody is going to be tricked or fooled into taking it - unlike some people today who think it is the COVID-19 vaccination. Do you agree with those who assert not keeping the Saturday sabbath is the MOTB?
I do not know what the rapturites think the 'tribulation' that Christ said 'time' was shortened for the elects sake ... but according to Christ 'wars and rumors of wars' were not the end ... the opposite of wars and rumors of wars is 'peace', 'peace', 'peace'... No self respecting fake Jesus is going to be letting blood, rather they would be play acting like they were Jesus ... Do you love me? or as the devil tempted Christ to bend His knee...
"Rapturites"? Do you really need to mock fellow Christians who believe in the Rapture? There is plenty of Biblical proof behind this - contrary to some people's misconceptions this was not a new thing invented over the last few centuries. But it is not what I would call a "salvific" belief. One's salvation doesn't depend upon believing in it unlike, say, the Deity of Jesus Christ or His death, burial and resurrection for our sins. Paul spoke of "disputable matters" (Romans 14) and warned against getting in arguments or quarreling over them. You can believe it or not because when it does happen, the redeemed will be taken up just the same. ;o)
As far as the days being shortened "for the elect's sake", I believe the elect here are the believing Jews and Gentiles who come to faith in Jesus as their Messiah during the Tribulation. Some people keep forgetting that the last half of this time will be Almighty God's wrath being poured out upon the ungodly world - it won't be the persecution upon believers we all expect to endure normally. That is the ungodly world doing the persecuting. The Great Tribulation will be God's "turn". He will not be poring His wrath upon His own children, the Bride of Christ.
Ezekiel 28 lays out Lucifer and his rebellion, and Satan was never called a 'fallen angel'... check out Jude.
Okay, then what IS he if not an angel that fell from heaven and took a third of the angels with him? If he is not a fallen angel nor a holy angel, then what? He certainly isn't a human being, nor another god (there is no other god but God).
There have been plenty of 'humans' in the flesh that have followed Satan, and still do, some in total complete ignorance.
But my original question was about who you think is THE Antichrist. You said you could identify the end-time Antichrist, the one called "the Beast". As I said already, no one doubts this person will be empowered and indwelt by the Devil/Satan/Dragon/Serpent/etc.. But you said you know who he is. Scripture shows us the Antichrist/Beast is not the same being as Satan. The Antichrist will be the source of the Beast's power, but they are not one and the same being.
The 'Antichrist/Beast system will appear to the world that Jesus has come to make 'peace', 'peace', 'peace'... Hard to argue with the religion.. except this entity is being allowed to repeat his prior performance as described in Ezekiel and Isaiah, from which Lucifer was judged and given the death sentence
The word sabbath means 'rest'. There is no way anyone can claim that our present day Saturday is still that 'seventh' day of the week. Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Colossians 2:16-17 16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
My belief is that Christians should 'rest' (sabbath) in Christ every day, not one day in our current weekly calendar.
"Rapturites"? Do you really need to mock fellow Christians who believe in the Rapture? There is plenty of Biblical proof behind this - contrary to some people's misconceptions this was not a new thing invented over the last few centuries. But it is not what I would call a "salvific" belief. One's salvation doesn't depend upon believing in it unlike, say, the Deity of Jesus Christ or His death, burial and resurrection for our sins. Paul spoke of "disputable matters" (Romans 14) and warned against getting in arguments or quarreling over them. You can believe it or not because when it does happen, the redeemed will be taken up just the same. ;o)
Christ is returning to God's green earth to reap a harvest... His weapon is His tongue ... a double edged sword that cuts left to right... Now, would you rather Christ 'mock' a fake doctrine, or a 'nobody' on the internet that can point to the Scripture where the Heavenly Father had it penned what HE thought of those that cover His saving digits to teach a fly-away doctrine to save 'souls'????
Ezekiel 13:13 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the Lord;
3 Thus saith the Lord God; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.
5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.
6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The Lord saith: and the Lord hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The Lord saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord God.
9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.
10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:
11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.
12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?
13 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.
14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
15 Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no more, neither they that daubed it;
*******16 To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord God.****
*******17 Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,
18 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?*******
*****19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
*******20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
******21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
******22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
I did NOT write this, it came from the Heavenly Father, and Paul also notes those determined to believe 'lies' ... 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie"
As far as the days being shortened "for the elect's sake", I believe the elect here are the believing Jews and Gentiles who come to faith in Jesus as their Messiah during the Tribulation. Some people keep forgetting that the last half of this time will be Almighty God's wrath being poured out upon the ungodly world - it won't be the persecution upon believers we all expect to endure normally. That is the ungodly world doing the persecuting. The Great Tribulation will be God's "turn". He will not be poring His wrath upon His own children, the Bride of Christ.
How many times did Christ say 'let no man DECEIVE you??? Mass deception is the first tribulation...Christ said for the 'elects sake' TIME was shortened .. that is how good the fake is going to be in playing the role of Jesus. Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 are Christ's own WORDS when asked for the signs of His return... Might even describe this as the 7 trumps, plus. There is not one instance where Christ hinted He would be making a secret trip to collect anyone... He is returning here on God's green earth to reap a harvest.
Paul wrote the elect/chosen were set aside 'before the foundation of the world'... This 'before the foundation of the world', comes from the Greek work katabolle and means casting down / overthrow ... the first mention is Genesis 1:2 .. because the Heavenly Father did not create the heavens and this earth 'void and without form', it became that way, when Lucifer rebelled and was cast down and a 1/3 of the souls followed him. Paul was chosen/elected and he was set forth to pen the majority of the so called New Testament ... and Paul was a scholar of the Hebrew language, and Paul injected repeatedly the writings of the Holy Prophets...
I have other things I need to attend to but will finish when I have time.
Don't bother for my sake! It's pretty obvious that you just aren't understanding the point. NOBODY has claimed to be a "Prophet" of the Lord WRT the Rapture. Instead, we look at what Paul and other disciples wrote, what the actual Prophets of God said, what Jesus taught and putting it all together in a way that makes logical sense. You may mock if you want, but some things YOU have no doubt interpreted in your own way, too, right? But, hey, at least we agree that Saturday Sabbath non-keeping is NOT the MOTB.
I did notice that you STILL haven't identified WHO the Antichrist is but I've reached the limit of asking you lest I get accused of hounding.
I linked a picture from the internet. I didn’t go to any site (regardless of whether that picture WAS from a site originally, or not). The picture shows one of your priest’s ancestors (of the fish god clan) wearing a fish mitre and sprinkling holy water with a hyssop branch. Modern Catholic Bishops, Cardinals, Popes, etc.... wear fish mitres and sprinkle holy water (some still with Hyssop branches). It is just one of many Pagan or occult symbols or practices that your church has incorporated over the years, LIKE THE WORLD’S LARGEST PINE CONE that just happened to be dedicated to Isis at a temple at the Pantheon, now sitting right outside of St. Peter’s Basilica (just down the way from that drug fueled gay orgy with the priests and bishop’s private secretary that happened not too long ago….I can send you the legit article it came from again if you want it….just let me know). That is an ABOMINATION unto God. I would say that the Catholic Church has very little to do with Jesus Christ and almost everything to do with Paganism and the occult.
So, why do you lie and mock people when they challenge you on these crystal clear historical facts? It is because you have no defense of the facts and all you can do is lie, mock, and divert from what you know is the truth. Just like your Jesuit friends in the 1500’s, like Ribera, and others. “Nope, we are not the Antichrist power. It’s either preterism or futurism. It’s not us””. Or today, “what about your proofetess EGW” or “you believe that Jesus was just an angel (Michael)”. That last one is a blatant lie on your part. You know my position on Michael the Archangel (which is the same as the SDA church) and I made it very clear to you and everyone. You have done it before and I called you out on it (you flat out lied then too) Maybe you think that if you repeat the lie often enough people will believe it and leave you and your Pagan/occult religion in peace? Sorry, not going to happen. Especially not when essentially EVERY SINGLE PROTESTANT REFORMER CALLED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OUT AS THE ANTICHRIST POWER.
When your priests wear their fish mitres, do they at least carry around a bottle of tartar sauce?
Pretty sure that Lazarus came back from the dead.
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