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Antichrist a Reincarnation?
RR ^ | 5/26/21 | Terry James

Posted on 05/29/2021 10:33:28 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

My just-released novel, MICHAEL: Last-Days Lightning, which all too briefly, but nonetheless, thankfully, went to number one in Christian fiction on Amazon, has sparked the beginning of a follow-up novel. I’ve tentatively given the next novel the title MESSIAH: The Prince That Shall Come.

The story will build on the protagonist’s experiencing Bible prophecy fulfillment while in a state of having dreams and visions as the result of a serpent bite he received while he was on the Island of Patmos. MESSIAH will deal with Antichrist coming to power as the world’s greatest deceiver. This understanding is based upon Jesus’ words:

I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. (John 5:43)

Lord willing, the novel will be the third of the books that began with REVELATIONS: The Rapture Generation, in which Tyce Grayson received that snake bite.

The purpose of mentioning all of that—along with, of course, admittedly hoping to promote the novels—is that while researching for writing the third novel, I cogitated on some things about the Antichrist I’ve often wondered about over the years.

One of the primary things that has piqued my thinking—and imagination—is that there are two people in God’s Word who are given the title “son of perdition.”

British theologian Arthur W. Pink (1886–1952) more or less framed the idea that provided impetus for my thinking.

As we have seen, in John 17:12 Christ termed Judas “the Son of Perdition,” and 2 Thess.2:3 we find that the Antichrist is similarly designated—“That Man of Sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition.” These are the only two places in all the Bible where his name occurs, and the fact that Judas was termed by Christ not a “son of perdition,” but “the Son of Perdition,” and the fact that the Man of Sin is so named prove that they are one and the same person. What other conclusion can a simple and unprejudiced reader of the Bible come to? (from The Antichrist, by A. W. Pink, https://www.ccel.org/ccel/p/pink/antichrist/cache/antichrist.pdf)

Pink went on to write that he believed Antichrist, the son of perdition, will be a reincarnated individual. There isn’t sufficient space in this commentary to totally explain his thinking, but I recommend that you read at the link given above if you’re interested in why he believed this.

I can’t fully embrace this notion because of my bias against the belief in reincarnation by those held by Hindus in India and other places, and the fact that God’s Word says it is appointed unto man once to die, then comes the judgment.

That steels the notion against reincarnation in my mind, but leaves open the possibility for a return from the dead in the case of this one man—Judas Iscariot, who was apparently lost from the beginning, according to Jesus Himself in His prayer as recorded by John:

While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. (John 17: 12)

I, nor anyone, can fully explain to my satisfaction why Judas went to “his own place” upon death, or why he was apparently instructed by Jesus to do what he was supposed to do at the Last Supper—i.e., go betray the Lord to the Judaizers and the Romans. We see these strange things in the following verses:

And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. (John 13: 27)

After Judas committed suicide, the disciples sought to replace him as the twelfth member of their group with one of two other men. They wanted the now resurrected and ascended Jesus to tell them what to do.

And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. (Acts 1:24–25)

We come then back to Arthur Pink’s statement that both Judas Iscariot and the one who will be Antichrist are called not “a” son of perdition, but “the” son of perdition. These are the only two who are so-designated as this evil individual.

Pink goes on, in depth, to point out that Judas was called by Jesus “devil.”

Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. (John 6: 70–71)

This, Pink believed, meant that Judas was so possessed by a supernatural evil spirit–by Satan himself—that he was lost without chance of redemption. This certainly seems to be the case, considering the total context of what we know about Judas Iscariot and about salvation as given in God’s Word.

The key word in the matter seems to me to be the word “men.” Was Judas a “man” at the time of his accepting the sop given by Jesus,? Or was he something other?

We look again at the Scripture verse about death and judgment:

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (Hebrews 9: 27)

Yet Judas Iscariot died, by his own hand, and went to “his own place.” Still, he is “the son of perdition”—same as Antichrist’s designation. Not “a” son of perdition, but “the” son of perdition.

Further, Pink writes the following.

It is hardly necessary to say that in the Greek there are two different words for “Devil” and “demon.” There are many demons, but only one Devil. Further, in no other passage is the word “devil” applied to any one but to Satan himself. Judas then was the Devil incarnate, just as the Lord Jesus was God incarnate. Christ Himself said so, [as recorded in John 6:70–71] and we dare not doubt His word. (Ibid.)

Pink then refers to the following Scripture to round out his thinking on the matter of Judas Iscariot being one and the same as the future Antichrist—a reincarnation, of sorts.

The Beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into perdition. (Revelation 17:8)

He points out that most expositors of his time held that Revelation 17:11 referred to the final form of Rome as the last world empire over which Antichrist will rule. But his implication was that they denied that an actual being will come from the bottomless pit as that Antichrist character (verse 8). Pink maintains that it is Judas Iscariot in a reincarnation. But it is a supernatural man, indwelt by an evil spirit like no other.

He writes:

In Matt.12:43 the Antichrist is called “The Unclean Spirit,” not merely an unclean spirit, but “the Unclean Spirit.”…

[In] the writer’s mind there is no doubt whatever that none other than the Beast is here in view. If this be the case, then we have further evidence that the coming One will be no mere man indwelt by Satan, but a fallen angel, an evil spirit, the incarnation of the Devil. (Ibid.)

I’m not at all sure about the term reincarnation in this case. There certainly is something profound connecting Judas Iscariot and the one who will be Antichrist, however. This “beast” will be wounded as unto death, then supposedly brought back to life at the midpoint of the Tribulation—another strange element to consider.

My own thinking revolves around the prophecy that foretells the first and second beasts of Revelation being thrown directly in the lake of fire. They apparently get no time of judgment before the Great White Throne as do men of the human sort. These are apparently already judged. This, to me, means they might not be or any longer have human, redeemable traits, so are summarily cast into that final place of the damned. Nephilim? I don’t know, but it’s interesting to contemplate.

Bottom line is that if you don’t know Jesus Christ for salvation of your soul, you will end up in the place where these two beings, the Antichrist and the False Prophet, will spend all of eternity.

Here’s how to avoid their fate as well as the fate of Satan, who will be the third being thrown into that place of eternal punishment.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9–10)


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To: grey_whiskers
Darby

John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 – 29 April 1882) was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism and Futurism and Pre-tribulation rapture theology.

Darby has been credited with originating the pre-tribulational rapture theory wherein Christ will suddenly remove His bride, the Church, from this world to its heavenly destiny before the judgments of the tribulation.

121 posted on 05/31/2021 4:16:48 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: grey_whiskers

Hershey :)


122 posted on 05/31/2021 4:17:18 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: boatbums; Just mythoughts; Roman_War_Criminal
Copying in Woman_Rar_Criminal as BB copied you in first - so if you got issues, tell her for ccing you

Eostre or Ostara is only seen in the writings by Bede - written centuries AFTER the end of paganism among the Saxons

Did you even bother to read your link? Ēostre is attested solely by Bede in his 8th-century work The Reckoning of Time,

There is no Saxon attestation of any such deity while there are plenty of attestations to Tiw, Woden, etc.

net-net, Eostre was not a Germanic deity - rather it is related to the proto-Germanic word for "East" - example Austria which in High German is Osterreich. And that was for Spring.

The rabbits etc. are German Protestant 17th century in origin - as written above - read it.

123 posted on 05/31/2021 4:21:42 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Philsworld
No pine cones in Catholicism. But there is Ellen as the prophetess in the Seventh Day Adventists
124 posted on 05/31/2021 4:23:28 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Philsworld
The claim that mitres are modeled on headgear worn in babylonian dagon worship is a pure fiction that was invented in a 19th-century -- you know, like your non-Christian cult, the Seventh Day Adventists were invented in the 19th century
125 posted on 05/31/2021 4:26:09 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Philsworld
yup, Ellen, your prophetess --> Why exactly do you Seventh Day Adventists believe, like the Jehovah's Witnesses, that Jesus is the Archangel Michael?

Daniel is clear that Michael is one among many Archangels ("Princes" of the angels).

126 posted on 05/31/2021 4:27:40 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: mdmathis6

Dude - there is no separate “taking away” before the second coming of Christ. There is no second coming A and second coming B

The pre-tribbers who believe that we are going to be whisked away and not have to contend for our beliefs are going to be surprised and probably will be those who stray.

Jesus told us to EXPECT tribulations but to be strong in our belief in Him and endure to the end


127 posted on 05/31/2021 4:29:48 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: mdmathis6

apologies for the “dude” prefix. That was uncalled for


128 posted on 05/31/2021 4:30:23 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Zionist Conspirator
eastern hindu/bddhist concept of being reborn until one reaches non-existence (wow that's silly).

Why exactly is it silly? We don't believe in it - neither do Jews, but that doesn't make it "silly" - just something we don't believe in.

The Hindu one - well some of it ends in non-existence, but some like the Jain version are that it never ends, but a continual cycle of birth and rebirth and the way out is to become an Advaita.

Deep philosophy - morose and what I don't agree with, but not "silly" - that would be Scientology

129 posted on 05/31/2021 4:32:35 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos

>>Cronos said: No pine cones in Catholicism.


What is a PINE CONE doing at the courtyard of the Old St. Peter’s Basilica THAT USED TO STAND NEXT TO THE TEMPLE OF ISIS??? (the temple of ISIS, can you imagine that???)

Nah, no Pagan symbols here at the Vatican. Nope, not at the one true Christian church. Couldn’t happen. /s

Composed of a large bronze pine cone almost four meters high which once spouted water from the top, the Pigna originally stood near the Pantheon next to the Temple of Isis. It was moved to the courtyard of the Old St. Peter’s Basilica during the Middle Ages and then moved again, in 1608, to its present location.[1]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/b7/c3/e9b7c33e4c1ef0223bec03593d61b601.jpg


130 posted on 05/31/2021 4:59:59 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

No pine cones in Catholicism.


Um, what’s that pineal gland (pine cone) doing at the bottom of the Pope’s bent cross of Lucifer? (You know that’s what it is, right?)

http://cdn2.collective-evolution.com/assets/uploads/2013/12/pope-pinecone.jpg

http://www.torchofthefaith.com/e107_images/newspost_images/xin_0912032511093401572433.jpg

https://thebl.tv/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/the-third-eye-pic2-notzip.jpg


131 posted on 05/31/2021 5:13:59 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

The claim that mitres are modeled on headgear worn in babylonian dagon worship is a pure fiction that was invented in a 19th-century (ref post 125)


Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck (Quack, quack, fish mitre, quack)

Wow, fish mitre AND bent cross of Lucifer with pineal gland, all in one picture.

https://in5d.com/images/pope-fish-hat-1.jpg


132 posted on 05/31/2021 5:26:00 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

The claim that mitres are modeled on headgear worn in babylonian dagon worship is a pure fiction that was invented in a 19th-century


There is something very fishy going on...

https://amredeemed.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/downloadfile-1.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cVn8vX8GhgQ/U17R0F3e-DI/AAAAAAAAHGw/bJYxxT0QegY/s1600/Pope+Benedict+XVI.jpg


133 posted on 05/31/2021 5:32:34 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

No pine cones in Catholicism.


What do pine cones, peacocks, and the temple of Isis have to do with Jesus Christ??? Can you explain that one please?


134 posted on 05/31/2021 5:39:24 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

They must have really big squirrels at the Vatican.


135 posted on 05/31/2021 6:14:12 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

No offense taken..you are as strong in your own views as are the others. My view...he’ll come when men say...”Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’ Those were Christ’s words. When he comes he will “like a thief”...those were also his words. And when he comes, it will be in that day of Resurrection(for those in Christ Jesus anyway as the rest of the dead will stay dead until after 1000 years are passed) for the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we that are alive and remain shall also be taken up to meet him in the middle of the air.” So as the bible says...let us ‘comfort each other with those words.

Note I have not taken a strong view on timings just on scriptures. Christ is with us, even now on this thread..with you and with me and all of us, just loving all of us but on the subjects of of the exact timings of the end and his coming...he just smiles and the Father stays mum. We were given clues and told to be watchful and ready but that is all we have been given.


136 posted on 05/31/2021 6:39:18 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Cronos

The claim that mitres are modeled on headgear worn in babylonian dagon worship is a pure fiction that was invented in a 19th-century


https://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Dagon-in-stone.jpg

Do you know what this Pagan Dagon priest is doing? He’s sprinkling holy water with a hyssop branch. Does anyone else you know do that?

Q: I was wondering about what instrument may be used for the rite of blessing and sprinkling holy water. I have seen branches used as well as aspergillum. Is there any guidance on this? I have looked at the General Instruction of the Roman Missal but to no avail. — J.H., Coventry, England

A: There does not seem to be much in the way of precise norms regarding the making and use of an aspergillum or sprinkler.

Monsignor (now bishop) Peter Elliott in his ceremonial handbook gives the following good advice but without providing official references:

“The sprinkler may take the form of a brush or of a hollow perforated ball, perhaps containing a sponge. But the pocket size sprinkler conveniently used in pastoral situations does not seem appropriate for celebrations in a church.”

Some older guides, for the extraordinary form, also state that as well as the brush or hollow globe, “preferably, a sprig of hyssop or other shrub is used.”


137 posted on 05/31/2021 7:37:28 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

What does Ellen G white and the Seventh day Adventist cult have to do with Christianity?

Not much.

After all you guys believe that Ellen is a proohetess whose 19th century writings are en par with scripture.

After all you Adventists believe that Jesus is the archangel Michael (who as per Daniel is just one of the many archangels)


138 posted on 05/31/2021 8:26:48 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Philsworld

The pre tribulation rapture is another 19th century false philosophy just like your Seventh day Adventist cult.


139 posted on 05/31/2021 8:27:42 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos

At least you got half of that right.


140 posted on 05/31/2021 8:35:57 AM PDT by Philsworld
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