1948 the Israelis fought against ALL of their neighbours. And won. Handily. That was 73 years ago
Posted on 03/21/2021 3:18:51 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
Are they to be brought to the Great White Throne judgment? With a just and Righteous God.
And they built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of Ben-hinnom to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, Are these waiting in sheol for the judgment? With a just and Righteous God.
Do you want to read my argument, or not? You’ve amply demonstrated your ability to argue, but not yet to listen. Is your mind closed irrevocably on this subject? Do you know it all, already? Because if you do, I’ll still love you as my brother in Christ, but I won’t bother to waste my time. It’s up to you.
John 12: 44 - 48
Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.
“If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.”
Christians have a favorite verse, John 3:16. The VERY NEXT VERSE says that Jesus came not to judge.
It is almost a perfect mirror to the verses you bring up.
And yet, Christians are so judgemental that they insist on telling others they’re sinners, they insist on delivering bad news instead of sticking with the good news.
Convincing people of sin, righteousness , and judgement is the job of the Holy Spirit. It is NOT our job. We have the easy task of telling ONLY the good news.
I am seeing that more clearly with each passing day.
Jesus died claiming to be equal with God. Even His enemies acknowledged that claim. It is simple historicity.
It doesn’t take very much faith to address this simple historical fact — was Jesus a good person or an evil person? That’s the tiny mustard seed of faith required. The rest is simple honest historicity.
I agree, it only looks like wrath to the Earth Dwellers seeing things they have never seen before occurring on the Earth,
“And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” Revelation 6:10
They are told his vengeance is not yet, but to wait a little while longer. . . .it is coming,
The battle lines are being drawn up, God is marking his own and Satan will mark everyone else who belongs to him, there will be no doubt of who is on which side,
“The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.” Nahum 1:7
Battle lines are bein’ drawn...
Battle lines are bein’ drawn...
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The seven years is about Israel, that’s why the prophets identified the period as Jacob’s trouble. The Tribulation is to put an end to sin in Israel thus all seven years and all seven seals are Jacob’s Trouble. The redeemed are in Heaven at the start of the seven years witnessing the opening of the seal judgments that JESUS is sending upon the Earthdwellers. The first is the rider on the White Horse carrying a bow but no arrows, the flase Messiah bringing false peace to ISRAEL so they are fooled into believing he is their Messiah.
Thanks Kevmo, I was coincidentally just listening to Buffalo Springfield earlier this week, I have a huge vinyl collection of Beatles and Classic rock and blues albums,
I agree 100% this period is about Israel and God keeping his promises to David and to his heirs, Isaiah 11:11, notice he says the ‘second time’ when the first captivity and return of Israel still hadn’t take place yet, it would be 150 years into the future, I can only wonder what Isaiah must’ve thought writing that down,
The events in the Book of Revelation starting at Chapter 4 have entirely to do with the adjudication of the rightful ownership of the Earth and the Jubilee release using the Laws and Ordinances of Moses, the Kinsman Redeemer provisions enacted then being met with a timing element completing Daniels 70 weeks of years (490 years)
Jesus began his ministry reading from the Book of Isaiah and proclaiming the Jubilee (he himself is the Jubilee) and the Israel of his day did not accept it or know the time of their visitation. He read in the Synagogue that day and left out ‘and the Day of Vengeance of our God’ that will proceed from another future Jubilee, see Isaiah 61-63 it appears to also coincide with another Jubilee declaration,
Jesus departed 10 days before Pentecost to send us the Holy Spirit, this created the ecclesia, the Church and he placed us on a pedestal and we are with Jesus in the Kingdom of God (not Kingdom of Heaven which Israel rejected), just meaning we are with him in a very special position (Paul was astounded at what we have been given and provided for) and what is happening in the Book of Revelation between chapters 4 thru 19 are very much Jewish in their use of idioms and purpose,
In Psalm 110 we’re shown “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” It matches the order of how Jesus proceeds in the book of Revelation, the Father will perform the overthrow of this Satanic world system,
In Revelation we’re told ‘hear what the Spirit says to the Churches’ and it is repeated 19 times in the first three chapters, then later on (Chapter 13) we hear the same comment again and its very noticeable that the Church is not included, “If any **man** has an ear, let him hear,”
I’m very much willing to be convinced otherwise, but I do not believe the opening of the seven seals are Judgements, instead I believe that begins with the Trumpets, I also believe the book in the right hand of the Father is a title deed to the Earth and all of Creation, and the requirements to take ownership require each part to be met for that section as its opened, I believe the 24 elders are a Court and they adjudicate and confirm Jesus as rightful heir of the Vineyard of the Lord of Hosts as we’re shown in Isaiah 5 and as meeting ALL conditions necessary as a Kinsman Redeemer to Israel over the physical Earth and all of creation (not the Church as “it is finished” at the cross and we are with him at the right hand of the Father forever). All that believe this prior to the start of the great Tribulation are covered by His Holiness and Grace forever, it cannot be undone,
Only a ‘Son of Man’ could be a legitimate ‘Kinsman Redeemer’ and all conditions had to be perfectly met to spare the world complete destruction. One has to be found or this world will be over, no flesh will be saved alive, John understood what was happening and was greatly upset by it,
As each one of the Seals are opened, things that have been long held in check on the Earth are now being allowed to proceed, notice how they say ‘come and see’ as the Four Living beings around the Throne are the ones pointing out the changes, not performing any direct actions, not until later,
Jesus said that he would bind in Heaven what we bind on the Earth, I believe this is what is occurring here, he is loosing those things that are bound until that time including the anti-Christ spirit which has been at work all along until it is no longer restrained, which is exactly what we’re being shown here, I also suspect the four horseman are in some manner related to what Zechariah was shown, I could conjecture more on what is happening but it might get me into trouble :-)
This is the song on my mind of late.
Long cool woman in a black dress. By the Hollies.
Graham Nash always seemed like he had a strong moral compass during interviews,
I’ve never heard the reason for the falling out with Crosby, whatever it was I’m sure it wasn’t on his end,
Speaking of which, their song Southern Cross has been on my mind as well.
YouTube has a new annoying feature. It autoplays the last few videos you watched. So I’m permanently stuck on nostalgic songs from the 60s.
Speaking of which, their song Southern Cross has been on my mind as well.
YouTube has a new annoying feature. It autoplays the last few videos you watched. So I’m permanently stuck on nostalgic songs from the 60s.
The title deed is the seven sealed scroll and since the first seal releases the antichrist, the entire of the seven seals and the seven years is The Tribulation, with the second half being The Great Tribulation.
When Jesus comes to the first Heaven to gather His to Himself, no one in the 4D zone of spacetime coordinates will see Him as He is. It is after The seed life of God transforms ALL Believers into greater dimensional beings that we see Him as He is (1 John 3:2). This transformation to higher dimensional beings removes us from the 4D zone so The Ecclesia disappears right before we are snatched awqay; the Ecclesia formed since the Day of Pentecost preaching by Peter is made to stand away from the 4D zone (The Apostasia of 2 Thess 2:3), then snatched away (harpazo of 1 Thess 4:16&17) into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Some amount of time passes before the first seal of the scroll is broken, for The Redeemed are in Heave witnessing the event, already wearing their crowns from their Bema Seat encounter with The Lord.
It is my conjecture that the Isa 17 / Psalm 83 war happens before the first seal is broken and the Restrainer is taken out of the way at the point of the war so that the evil one can spring forth and deceive Israel with all signs and lying wonders into believing he is Israel's Messiah. :A MArzulli is fond of saying 'we go up they come down --the extra terrestrail demonic horde masquerading as space aliens. I have a slightly different take on that since I do believe the Restrainer is preventing such signs and wonders and is not taken out of the way until the Isa 17 war of Israel with its border neighbors. The Restrainer move out of satan's way is the moment I believe 'thgey come down' as part of the great deception, the delusion relates to this 'arrival' event.
” I personally think He or some entity rolled the dice with the big bang and observed how it played out” — Kind of like Marvel Comic’s “Secret Wars” with the “Beyonders”
What you ask is a serious question - there have been far worse things that have happened over the previous millenia.
Though to be fair, if God prevented various atrocities, we could ask why not prevent personal tragedies. Then it does become that we need to be prevented from every free will act.
So I think it goes that we have the free will to do evil and the alternative is that we are robots. that’s just my opinion
The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,===
Moab and the Hagrites;
7 Gebal and Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assyria also has joined with them;
Note that ALL of these entities + the entity in Isaiah 17 - namely Aram -- all of them were taken out of the way in 700 BC -- Edom was absorbed into Israel when the Edomites were forcibly converted to Judaism by the Hasmonean dynasty in the first century BC
Ammon and Moab were destroyed by the Assyrians and the remnants were absorbed into the nation of Israel at the same time as the Edomites
Philistia disappeared before the Assyrian conquest
Assyria itself has never risen again since its conquest by the Median-Babylonian confederation
1948 the Israelis fought against ALL of their neighbours. And won. Handily. That was 73 years ago
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