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To: MHGinTN

I agree 100% this period is about Israel and God keeping his promises to David and to his heirs, Isaiah 11:11, notice he says the ‘second time’ when the first captivity and return of Israel still hadn’t take place yet, it would be 150 years into the future, I can only wonder what Isaiah must’ve thought writing that down,

The events in the Book of Revelation starting at Chapter 4 have entirely to do with the adjudication of the rightful ownership of the Earth and the Jubilee release using the Laws and Ordinances of Moses, the Kinsman Redeemer provisions enacted then being met with a timing element completing Daniels 70 weeks of years (490 years)

Jesus began his ministry reading from the Book of Isaiah and proclaiming the Jubilee (he himself is the Jubilee) and the Israel of his day did not accept it or know the time of their visitation. He read in the Synagogue that day and left out ‘and the Day of Vengeance of our God’ that will proceed from another future Jubilee, see Isaiah 61-63 it appears to also coincide with another Jubilee declaration,

Jesus departed 10 days before Pentecost to send us the Holy Spirit, this created the ecclesia, the Church and he placed us on a pedestal and we are with Jesus in the Kingdom of God (not Kingdom of Heaven which Israel rejected), just meaning we are with him in a very special position (Paul was astounded at what we have been given and provided for) and what is happening in the Book of Revelation between chapters 4 thru 19 are very much Jewish in their use of idioms and purpose,

In Psalm 110 we’re shown “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” It matches the order of how Jesus proceeds in the book of Revelation, the Father will perform the overthrow of this Satanic world system,

In Revelation we’re told ‘hear what the Spirit says to the Churches’ and it is repeated 19 times in the first three chapters, then later on (Chapter 13) we hear the same comment again and its very noticeable that the Church is not included, “If any **man** has an ear, let him hear,”

I’m very much willing to be convinced otherwise, but I do not believe the opening of the seven seals are Judgements, instead I believe that begins with the Trumpets, I also believe the book in the right hand of the Father is a title deed to the Earth and all of Creation, and the requirements to take ownership require each part to be met for that section as its opened, I believe the 24 elders are a Court and they adjudicate and confirm Jesus as rightful heir of the Vineyard of the Lord of Hosts as we’re shown in Isaiah 5 and as meeting ALL conditions necessary as a Kinsman Redeemer to Israel over the physical Earth and all of creation (not the Church as “it is finished” at the cross and we are with him at the right hand of the Father forever). All that believe this prior to the start of the great Tribulation are covered by His Holiness and Grace forever, it cannot be undone,

Only a ‘Son of Man’ could be a legitimate ‘Kinsman Redeemer’ and all conditions had to be perfectly met to spare the world complete destruction. One has to be found or this world will be over, no flesh will be saved alive, John understood what was happening and was greatly upset by it,

As each one of the Seals are opened, things that have been long held in check on the Earth are now being allowed to proceed, notice how they say ‘come and see’ as the Four Living beings around the Throne are the ones pointing out the changes, not performing any direct actions, not until later,

Jesus said that he would bind in Heaven what we bind on the Earth, I believe this is what is occurring here, he is loosing those things that are bound until that time including the anti-Christ spirit which has been at work all along until it is no longer restrained, which is exactly what we’re being shown here, I also suspect the four horseman are in some manner related to what Zechariah was shown, I could conjecture more on what is happening but it might get me into trouble :-)


72 posted on 03/24/2021 8:34:55 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell; metmom; SouthernClaire; aMorePerfectUnion; Iscool; boatbums
You have well stated a reasonable interpretation. I have focused upon the departure of the Ecclesia and have concluded that Departure comes before the time of Jacob's Trouble begins. The perspective that the wrath begins in chapter 6:17 is not supported by the Greek structure of that passage; it is the pagans who state 'the wrath has come' (in Greek 'elethen' which is aorist indicative form, meaning the wrath has come earlier but we are just now recognizing it).

The title deed is the seven sealed scroll and since the first seal releases the antichrist, the entire of the seven seals and the seven years is The Tribulation, with the second half being The Great Tribulation.

When Jesus comes to the first Heaven to gather His to Himself, no one in the 4D zone of spacetime coordinates will see Him as He is. It is after The seed life of God transforms ALL Believers into greater dimensional beings that we see Him as He is (1 John 3:2). This transformation to higher dimensional beings removes us from the 4D zone so The Ecclesia disappears right before we are snatched awqay; the Ecclesia formed since the Day of Pentecost preaching by Peter is made to stand away from the 4D zone (The Apostasia of 2 Thess 2:3), then snatched away (harpazo of 1 Thess 4:16&17) into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Some amount of time passes before the first seal of the scroll is broken, for The Redeemed are in Heave witnessing the event, already wearing their crowns from their Bema Seat encounter with The Lord.

It is my conjecture that the Isa 17 / Psalm 83 war happens before the first seal is broken and the Restrainer is taken out of the way at the point of the war so that the evil one can spring forth and deceive Israel with all signs and lying wonders into believing he is Israel's Messiah. :A MArzulli is fond of saying 'we go up they come down --the extra terrestrail demonic horde masquerading as space aliens. I have a slightly different take on that since I do believe the Restrainer is preventing such signs and wonders and is not taken out of the way until the Isa 17 war of Israel with its border neighbors. The Restrainer move out of satan's way is the moment I believe 'thgey come down' as part of the great deception, the delusion relates to this 'arrival' event.

77 posted on 03/26/2021 6:51:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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