Posted on 03/05/2021 8:56:42 AM PST by JAG 5000
Jeremiah Chapter 7
They were dealing with each other unjustly Jeremiah 7:5
They were oppressing foreigners Jeremiah 7:6
They were oppressing the fatherless {orphans} and widows {the defenseless} Jeremiah 7:6
They were killing innocent people Jeremiah 7: 6
They were stealing, murdering, committing adultery and committing perjury in the courts. Jeremiah 7:9
God spoke to them again and again and told them to stop doing all these sins, but they refused to listen to Him and they kept on murdering innocent people. Jeremiah 7:13
They were stiff-necked and would not listen and obey the Lord -- they refused to respond o His correction. Jeremiah 7:24-28
They even murdered their own children by burning them in fire as sacrifices to their blood-thirsty false gods. Jeremiah 7:30-31
God spoke to them repeatedly and told them to stop murdering innocent people, and to stop stealing, and to stop oppressing widows and orphans and to stop murdering their children by offering them in the fires as sacrifices to their false blood-thirsty gods -- but they de facto told God, "No we will NOT stop murdering innocent people." See all of Jeremiah chapter 7
So?
So God destroyed them and gave their dead bodies to the birds of the air and they became meals for the vultures -- "food for the birds" Jeremiah 7:32-33
Concluding Remarks: No human is forced to choose wrongly and thereby bring destruction upon themselves. God gave us free will and we can choose to listen to Him and obey His commands. He knows what is best for us and He has made a way for us to say no to destructive sin and wrong doing.
The Lord Jesus opened our path to forgiveness and peace with God by His death on the Cross. He purchased our salvation by shedding His blood on Calvary. His death and Resurrection created a New Covenant {a New Testament} between God and humanity.
"Whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life." John 5:24
"Therefore being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1
You too, today, can find peace with God , , , ,
"To all who did receive Him, who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God." John 1:12
If you do not know the Lord Jesus as your savior, simply pray this simple prayer from the heart:
"Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior. In Your Name. Amen."
JAG
No I didn’t God judges justly. Your answer is in that statement. You want to dig further, the there are plenty of excellent resources online you can read. You have been on fr long enough and have seen enough threads on the issues of “innocence” to know what the Bible says about all men’s conditions. Briefly I Wil. Tell you that God was merciful in sparing the children of growing up in wickedness and ending up in eternity In hell. Like I said, if you wish to dig deeper, ther are many excellent resources to you question ing of God’s judgements online
‘There were no innocent children killed in the Great Flood?’
I see we’re pursuing the same line of reasoning; and in reality, there is no good answer to it...
“I see we’re pursuing the same line of reasoning; and in reality, there is no good answer to it...”
I was not trying to find an answer to why. I was challenging the accuracy of his statement.
Since you like questions,, IL. Ask you a question. Is God guilty of killing “innocent children” if parents know a hurricane is coming in Florida, or Texas or wherever, and they refuse to get their children, or themselves for that matter, to safety?
GOD GAVE the people every opportunity to save themselves AND their children. They refused. Noah even preached to the people and warned them.
“Like I said, if you wish to dig deeper, ther are many excellent resources to you question ing of God’s judgements online”
Like I said, I was not questioning God’s judgement so why do you keep coming back to this issue!
I guess it is because you do not wish to answer my question.
“Since you like questions,, IL. Ask you a question. Is God guilty of killing “innocent children””
Since you don’t like answering questions why should expect others to respond to your questions!
“GOD GAVE the people every opportunity to save themselves AND their children. They refused. Noah even preached to the people and warned them.”
Were those babies innocent?
‘Briefly I Wil. Tell you that God was merciful in sparing the children of growing up in wickedness...’
okay, I get what you’re saying, and I agree this isn’t the place to bat this around), but I would just recommend that when you use this line of reasoning (children saved from perdition) you also find out exactly what happens to a person when he drowns...hint; it ain’t pretty...
” Is God guilty of killing “innocent children” “
Is it your premise that God did kill innocent children?
You know the answer to that. You know what the Bible says, and you also know that God know the future. Do you claim the children were innocent? There are no e righteous, no not one. God has a perfect right to judge as He does, anytime He chooses, however He chooses as long as it is I line with His nature. He can not rule otherwise. He rules justly, that is your answer. If you wish to k kw how that ruling was just, there are many excellent online sites that discuss why. I have you a couple of reasons why already but you can dig deeper if you choose too, eep saying I am not answering, but I am. The answer lies I. The fact that God is just and rules justly, and In the fact that there are none righteous, only some who are not judged to hell because they die before the age of knowledge. That is different than being “innocent”
I don’t see what the method of dying has to do with God’s judgment on a people? mAn brought sin and destruction and accidents,, and disease etc on himself.. before the fall, there was none of that. God warned man not to sin, but he ignored God, and brought all that on himself.
I guess I’m not seeing what you are implying?
“Do you claim the children were innocent?”
You answer a question with a question.
No I didn’t, I answered you above. I wanted to know whether you thi k the chi,dren that died In The flood were “innocent” or not
” That is different than being “innocent”
In your post you used ‘innocent’, not righteous. How do you define innocent.
Like Abraham said, the Judge of the whole earth will do right.
This is a nice post; good food for thought.
“Bless ‘em dry”.
“No I didn’t, I answered you above. I wanted to know whether you thi k the chi,dren that died In The flood were “innocent” or not”
You asked a question using ‘innocent children’ in quotes. I asked you to define that term so I could accurately answer your question. You then asked me if I thought they were innocent.
If you can’t define the terms you are using, stop using them.
“No I didn’t, I answered you above. I wanted to know whether you thi k the chi,dren that died In The flood were “innocent” or not”
LOL! That was my original question to you!
I’ll post what I like when I like. Who are you to order me to do anythjng? And besides,, I defined what the children who died were. Several times now.
Is God the giver and taker of life?
Are any people innocent of being sinners?
Can God justly rule that beings in a sin state be destroyed?
How much clearer can it be than that?
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