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The End Times
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Posted on 02/08/2021 5:11:34 PM PST by MHGinTN

Foreword

For purposes of this essay we are presuming a few things as fundamental truth from the Bible. Some of these presumptions may not be acceptable to a reader or three but that ought not prevent reading through the entire essay to the conclusions.

We are presuming the following points for discussion purposes:

+ All that is real is in the Universe God has created and all that is not in this created Universe is God and only God;
+ Jesus came to Earth as God With Us, as prophesied in the Old Testament and realized in the New Testament;
+ When the Jewish leaders rejected Jesus and His offer to begin The Kingdom on Earth, God opened the Age of Grace which set aside a differentiation between Jews and non-Jews, such that God's salvation was opened to all of humankind descendants from Adam;
+ The Age of Grace will come to an end and then God will resume His dealings with Israel, putting an end to sin in Israel as prophesied by Daniel in the Book of Daniel;
+ The Departure of the Body of Christ Believers ends the current Age of Grace building of the Body of Christ believers;
+ The Spirit of God indwells every individual member of the Body of Christ Believers, as the born again, born from above 'experience' Jesus spoke of with Nicodemus;
+ The Body of Christ Church is not a denomination but a complete list of all who have been born again by the Spirit of God based upon their individual faith alone in Christ alone as Savior and Redeemer;
+ The Body of Christ Believers might be thought of as one would identify the entire student body of a particular school and this Body of Believers has been accumulating since Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost;
+ During the Age of Grace, God is putting His seed of eternal life IN the spirit of every believer in Christ alone as The Redeemer.
+ Instead of using 'dimension' to identify aspects of space and time, we will be using 'variable expressions' to identify discrete aspects such as length, width, height for variable expressions of dimension Space, and past, present, and future as variable expressions of dimension Time; all the dimensions of the Universe God has created are IN the Universe He has created.

The Age We Are In

We are living at the end of the Church Age. The moment the Age ends is the Great Departure of the Body of Christ. Within every member of the Body of Christ there is The Seed of God, the Seed of The Holy Spirit ( 1 John 3:9 ). Only the members of The Body of Christ have God's Seed in their human spirit., making the Age of The Church complete Body of Believers by faith alone in Christ alone a unique phenomenon, apart from the Law since God in us fulfills the character of the law of God in us.

What follows in this essay is a concept of 'what and how' the Great Departure happens. The hallmark of members of The Body of Christ Believers is the Presence of God in that Believer, and where God's Seed is there is eternal Life, not indeterminate life but eternal life ( Philipians 2:13; 1st Thessalonians 2:13 ). When God fulfills His Promise, there is no going back to before He fulfilled His Promise.

We are the generation of Believers who have the necessary History of human knowledge required to conceptualize aspects of the 'how' which previous generations could not even guess at.

Our generation has developed the understanding that there are more variable expressions of Space and Time than sensed by us in our 4D existence, in our three of space and one of time reality. We can know that such 'other' dimensional variables exist because the Bible exhibits them through scenes such as Daniel 5, with the seemingly disembodied hand writing on the wall in Palace Party Central, Babylon.

That hand was attached to a being 'standing' in another set of spacetime coordinates not sensed by the partiers or the king. That real physical being had variables of space and or time not shared by the partiers or the king. That being reached into the limits of the partiers to write visibly upon the wall.

Another clear example of the real existence of this other coordinate system is found in 2 Kings 6:14-16 where the Prophet Elisha asks God to 'open' the eyes of the student so he can see who is for the protection of the prophet and his student. God opens the young man's eyes and he sees the vast army encamped upon the hills surrounding the valley where the offending force seeking the seizure of the prophet are encamped.

There are scenes from the New Testament which display this 'other' coordinate system of variables of time and space, such as Jesus walking on water; Jesus passing 'through' the mob seeking to throw Him off of a cliff and stone Him; Jesus leaving the burial wrappings behind as He exited a rock hewn tomb blocked by a large stone, without removing the stone; Jesus appearing in the locked and shuttered Upper Room following His resurrection, without coming through a door or window; Philip disappearing from the presence of the Eunuch and reappearing miles away; Peter visited by an Angel, coming from a where/when Peter could not sense but a place of space and time nonetheless.

There are two axiomatic expressions which were keys to my own comprehension of this space and time reality beyond our sensing but real in space and time having more variability than our 4 dimensions / variables of space and time:

Without time events do not occur in the Universe God has created
Without space a thing is not existing in the Universe God has created

These two axioms brought sense to what was percolating in thoughts regarding the scenes from the Bible. If an object is not occupying space it is not in the Universe of God's creating. [ A stream of photons can all land on the same spot on a wall, seeming to occupy the same space without piling up like a stream of bullets; the photons are in the Universe God has created, so we might say they occupy a variable expression of space not in our sensing range. They are not outside the Universe God has created. ] For these two axioms too be true for the entire Universe there must be spatial coordinates in all levels of reality, even the reality where Angels dwell. Everything IN the Universe God has created has to have existence relative to Time and Space. All that is the Universe has been created by God. There is only God outside of the Universe of His creating. That is, God The Father Almighty must, by definition of God the Creator, be greater than that which He creates.

The Where / When

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Summary Conclusion

Every one of Adam's descendants has a body, a soul or behavior mechanism ( mind, emotion, and will ), and a spirit. We have a spirit body which can be alive or in a state of unutilized / none functioning / dead. The state of deadness is not a 'going out of existence' because God made the spirit to be in a time state of eternal, eternally alive with His seed of Life, or eternally in deadness without dissolution. The body returns to the dust of which it is made ,,, the atomic and molecular dust. The spirit body is not made of atomic and molecular dust. It is made of stuff which has eternal existence in the Universe of space and tune God has created.

Because the seed of God Life comes to abide in the born again spirit, a member of the Body of Christ has the seed of the Spirit inside their spirit body. When the Lord descends to the first Heaven around the Earth, God's shout instantly creates new physical bodies for the individual spirit bodies returning to the Earth with The Lord. Then the voice command of an Archangel transforms the physical bodies of alive members in The Body of Christ Believers, giving them glorified bodies like that of the returnees. With the 'move 'e out' trumpet, we join in the rising up into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and return to the Father's House where Jesus has been preparing many rooms for us, there.

Anecdote

When I was a little boy living in Fairlington, Virginia near the Pentagon, there was an Army Colonel who lived with his family in the first apartment in our four apartment building. He had a big Grey car which he washed on Summer weekends in the parking lot in front of his apartment. Instead of a hose to run water to the job, he used canvas buckets. These buckets were standard issue for tanks and trucks during Wprld War 2 because they took up so little space. When empty they collapsed down to two metal rings sewn into a wide strip of canvas for the body of the container.

When the buckets were filled with water they sweated liquid through the sides. If filled to the top I could push my finger into the side of the canvas and water would spill over the top ring.

This canvas bucket is a sort of metaphor for the human spirit body. When we are not yet born again our bucket, er, I mean our spirit body is empty and not functioning as God intended. Like an empty canvas bucket our spirit body is not fulfilling God's purpose for that spirit body. But when the water is ... er, I mean when the spirit life is in our spirit body we function as a whole if the 'filling' is used for proper intent.

In scripture water is often used to signify Holy Spirit. When we are born again God puts the first 'water' in our spirit body, and we are containers of His Presence, filling up to over flowing to the extent with which we seek His filling us.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: rapture; spiritbody
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1 posted on 02/08/2021 5:11:34 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: NellieMae; Tennessee Nana; metmom; caww; Mark17

Pingaling


2 posted on 02/08/2021 5:13:02 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SouthernClaire; imardmd1; Iscool; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums

Pingaaling


3 posted on 02/08/2021 5:15:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Bookmarked!


4 posted on 02/08/2021 5:38:18 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: MHGinTN
The End Times From Porch Maunderings
5 posted on 02/08/2021 5:38:52 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: MHGinTN

Didn’t know you had a blog!

Nice article MHGinTN!


6 posted on 02/08/2021 7:20:47 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Thank you, brother. I do not ‘blog pimp’. What I post there is mostly for my extended family. I have a link to the blog page on my profile page at FR.


7 posted on 02/08/2021 7:31:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Robert DeLong

Appreciate the hyper link ... and the alert to the ‘too’ typo.


8 posted on 02/08/2021 7:45:00 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

During this past year of worldwide medical terror made in China, I have observe such a polarization of what once was the faithful church.

At one end of the spectrum there are now a large group of people who use to attend church every Sunday and more and read the Bible and believe God’s Word and adhere to the teachings of the Lord Jesus and do His work and commands and also would teach their children to ‘follow Christ’.

Now they have fallen out of church and have not contacted the pastor or any of the leaders of the church they and their families attended faithfully for decades and generations. The furor for God which once ruled their hearts has been replaced by a ghastly fear of the deadly virus which erupted in the world along with a killing fear in their souls.

Instead of the previous eagerness to study God’s Holy Scriptures and pray fervently for God to move in their lives and the lives of the lost populations, their waking hours are spent in arranging ways to escape the coming plague.

Not only do they obsess about their fears of the virus and their eminent death of which they seem convinced, with no belief in a healing Savior to aid them, but some are spending fortunes to lie and cheat and bribe officials for a better place in line for the vaccine or flying across the country to other states where it might be more readily obtained.

These are not the actions of a faithful man or woman. Does God lie? Does he cheat or cut in line? And yet we are to be like Him. God says in His Holy Bible that it is the unrighteous who flees when no man pursues and yet people who would call themselves Christians are to be found amongst these timid ones. If some members of Christ’s church are numbered in this group of faithless, what are the rest of the flock doing?

What would cause a man or woman to hold tight to God and pray and depend on His Word’s for comfort and guidance and to lead them during this of persecution and worldwide panic? I believe anyone who knows already who they are in Christ and that God truly loves them, so much so that He would give His only begotten Son for their individual Salvation. When we know that, we can be sustained regardless of whatever our enemy the devil would throw at us. Is the virus the handiwork of the devil? Well it is not from God. God heals sickness from our bodies, He does not give plaques to the righteous.

Beloved this is not a time to hunk down with fear as a security blanket and unbelief as a comfort food. If we ever prayed in the past, we must pray even more so now as we see the end coming to pass. God has not forsaken us. God promised to never leave us or forsake us. God says that He is not a man that He should lie to us. Many mere men have lied for months stirring such dread of immediate horrors and doom in the failing hearts of their itchy eared listeners, but the Lord God Almighty is not one of those false proclaimers.

Beloved God is Truth, God is Love. God is Life and Life Eternal.

If you are looking for a sign or running from one teacher to another to hear who has the latest information on the plague or a cure or an early vaccine appointment, you are not seeking God. God can be found where He has always been, in His Holy Bible, and in the prayers of the faithful. The answers to your questions can be found in His Word.

This virus is not bigger than God. God has already healed us of this plague, in the stripes on the back of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is not a time to be afraid and doubtful. This is a time to pray and believe that God still has a plan for our lives and that He is in charge still. Then just relax and watch God at work as He rules over the next days and months and few years we might still have until Jesus calls us home to be with Him in Glory.

If you are not excited about our Lord God and how He can surpass anything the devil or man might plan to out detriment, you are in a bad place. Repent and start praying again and build up your most Holy faith praying in the Holy Ghost.

So so not be number with those who are part of the ‘falling away’. Be amongst those who will be ‘caught away to be with Him’

beloved, do not fear. Have faith in God. Read the Holy Bible and pray, never doubting.

The Lord Jesus Christ said “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father but by me.” John 14:6

For God so loved (you) that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever (and you are a whosoever) believes in Him shall not perish but shall have Eternal life. John 3:16


9 posted on 02/08/2021 8:31:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
we certainly are alive at a time when a cabal of oligarchs, globalist oligarchs, areaccomplishing an evil thing. America and all of Western civilization stood in the way of the great reset seizure of humanity. Now people are herded into masked and not masked, vaccinated and not vaccinated, silenced or opposing a fraudulent election. we the people are no longer the sovereigns of what used to be a Constitutional Republic.

It is astonishing how easily we were usurped, using a manufacture virus which is not nearly as deadly as we have been told and which has medical cures such as HCQ and zinc or Ivermectin, yet vaccine fear mongering has captured our psyche.

I see it as more evidence that the end of the Church Age is at hand, which means the snatching away of the Body of Christ is at the door. Will there be persecution of the Body of Christ Believers before the Rapture departure? Yes, we can see the clouds gathering for that. But it will be persecution of us by men who are determined to rule over us. It will not be the wrath of God being poured out in increasing severity as in the Tribulation.

Lest we lose sight of it, the Church grew very rapidly during times of persecution! Persecution by men persecuting those who were born again, born from above. The very Ones whom God brings with Jesus when He comes for The Body of Christ to be removed BEFORE God begins 'the hour of testing' (Rev 3:10).

10 posted on 02/08/2021 10:37:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

For your end times ping list


11 posted on 02/09/2021 3:28:01 AM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: SaveFerris

Thank you; see you in the clouds.


12 posted on 02/09/2021 7:58:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

Pingaling


13 posted on 02/09/2021 8:03:23 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

“We are the generation of Believers who have the necessary History of human knowledge required to conceptualize aspects of the ‘how’ which previous generations could not even guess at.”

“For these two axioms too be true for the entire Universe there must be spatial coordinates in all levels of reality, even the reality where Angels dwell.”

God bless you for this, MHG. You gave a very intelligent and interesting account regarding “dimensional variables.”

Seems there’s a thick veil on our side but none on the other.

Even in our day there are accounts of entry from the other side. Especially interesting are the many accounts given by soldiers who fought the Six Day War of Israel. So many experienced other worldly events and admitted that God Himself won that war for Israel. I believe it.

Your post is a very interesting read, and I hope you will post more on the “variables” when you get the time.

Blessings, MHG.


14 posted on 02/09/2021 11:50:46 AM PST by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks bro!


15 posted on 02/09/2021 12:54:28 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: ConjunctionJunction; Library Lady; patriot torch; Califreak; mlizzy; Halls; Cedar; Huskrrrr; ...

End Times Ping

Hat-tip to Kevmo for the ping.

PM me if you wish be to added to or removed from the End Times Ping List.

Even so, come Lord Jesus!


16 posted on 02/09/2021 12:59:32 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: MHGinTN; Roman_War_Criminal
[Maranatha!]

Even so, come Lord Jesus!!


17 posted on 02/09/2021 1:12:10 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

A blink is quicker than that my friend.


18 posted on 02/09/2021 2:04:27 PM PST by zek157
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To: zek157

Yep!!!!


19 posted on 02/09/2021 2:29:19 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Please remember me when the time comes.


20 posted on 02/09/2021 3:42:51 PM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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