Ping.
Therefore:
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
Christ is Revealed, Glorify Him!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
The August 19 date refers solely to the adoption of the gaysbian agenda, NOT to the “Full Communion” agreement.
Again a reminder, God left us His Word and not a denomination. Food for thought.
It sounds so familiar, as other protestant denominations have been and are falling apart for the same reasons. Orthodoxy, once made optional, soon falls into decay and disuse. The world of modernism depletes the spiritual energy the church needs to keep the faith.
It seems when all Christian institutions when they reach a certain size they become worldly and apostate. Thus forcing a faithful remnant to break off in order to preserve the faith once for all delivered to the Saints. Just look at the history of the Ivy League colleges, most of which started as devout seminaries.
And they keep ordaining and sending us liberal pastors. Thankfully, at present our church has a God fearing, Bible believing and preaching pastor.
Having been baptized Methodist and having spent my young adulthood as a Good News/Emmaus Methodist, I can speak to the accuracy of the 20th century description. If it weren’t for the African bishops, the UMC would already be 100% like the PCUSA, the ELCA, and the UCC.
Those of us who gave up in the 1980s and joined the LCMS or Wesleyan churches (I became the former) thought we were accelerating the necessary split, but it took two more generations.
United Methodist Church splitting?
Then it won’t be United any more.................
Bkmrk
The UCC is next.
You bet it’s an excellent analysis. I’m not even a Methodist, but I read every word.
I went to a college founded by an abolitionist Methodist in 1860 but never knew of all the foment over the last 100+ years or so.
Thank you so much for posting this. The issue is particularly poignant in my case.
As a teacher of an adult Sunday School class in a rural UMC church with only about 40 members, I watched over the years as a parade of pastors came through the door, many of whom were clearly apostate in terms of adherence to scripture.
Finally, last year the church had had enough. The lady pastor said “I believe in a loving God...there is no Hell!” Yikes!
The peasants grabbed their pitchforks, changed the locks on the church and locked the UMC out. Moved to a machine shop for services. There is a wonderful, loving and liberated spirit in the worship.
We are in the concluding phase of moving back into our church as a fully independent body of believers. The UMC is a godless, heretical bureaucracy. But then, so is Washington DC. The attorney Dan Dalton in Michigan is doing some great work for those abandoning that sinking ship.
“Stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the Cross!”
Thank You Again for Posting!
When I was just a little, tiny fella back in the early 1950s, my dad worked for the railroad and would be gone from home for weeks at a time. We were literally poor as paupers until he got back home with his pay. No credit cards back then, no phone. We had an old beat up 1940s-type Plymouth car that we couldn’t even drive because we had no money for gas.
Every once in awhile, someone would leave a bag of groceries on our doorstep. One day, I saw the man who was doing it, and it was the Methodist pastor of the small church down the road from us. I recognized him from going to that little church.
My mother was Pentecostal to the core; head to toe, but sometimes, we’d all get dressed and go to that little church I think she took us there because we could walk to it since we couldn’t afford to drive anywhere else, and something was better than nothing? Who knows. I never did ask her. That church was always packed on Sunday mornings. I can remember as a little fella sitting there listening to those messages. That preacher was full of hell fire and brimstone back then. I can remember him shaking that Bible at the congregation while preaching Christ and Him crucified.
A few years ago, I had the chance to revisit the old place and that Methodist church is still there...only now, it’s much newer and way nicer. We went that next Sunday. It was full of homosexual couples, and to say the least, we felt somewhat out of place. When the lady pastor presented the message, there was absolutely NO scripture at all....just a feel-good message out of some secular magazine article.
Now, I’m definitely no saint, and the Lord has a lot of work to do with old boy, but I sat there thinking how far they’ve gone compared to the early 50’s.
Never went back...and probably never will.
I grew up in a small, old-fashioned United Methodist church in southern Illinois and will always be grateful for that. But knowing some of the clergy in that area, nearly 40 years ago, I can see where a lot of the trouble came from. They were not the source of bringing the world into the church because they were pretty much traditional believers. But they were nice people willing to compromise with the world to keep the peace. I think a concern for preserving their careers also played a role with some. The first compromises seemed small, but actually amounted to the camel’s nose getting into the tent. Eventually, the whole camel was in.
I have long since moved on. The only times I have been in a UMC in this century were for my parents’ funerals. Knowing what the UMC was and could have been, I am sorry to see this happen.
You fought hard. How are things for you?
I was raised Methodist, but let the church many years ago. Well, to be fair, I felt they left me. I talked to many pastors about the changes that I saw and was left sadder and sadder.
It is not just the Methodists that undergoing schism at this time. Sadly, we live in a world that believe in getting along and going along that everybody must arrive at the same place regardless and that religion itself is a problem and should be shunned by thinking people.
For all these reasons and more, this falling away is yet one more indicator that we are living in the end times and Our Lord will be returning soon.
Jesus established one holy catholic (universal) and apostolic church. The Church is one (not many) in unity with the Trinity and professes one Lord, one faith, and one Baptism and forms one Body under the leadership of the Holy Father, successor to Peter the Apostle.
Man has followed false teachers and rejected some of God’s revealed truths. Accordingly, many are not following the teachings of Jesus Christ but their own man-made opinions.
Few will enter Heaven unless they repent and change their ways. There is one God and His Truth does not have thousands of different versions. We all need to seek God’s truth and follow Christ not the ways of the world.
Jesus told us the way is hard and the gate narrow. Mat 7:13
“Unless the person saying it is in the process of becoming Roman Catholic. When you think about it, any Protestant, by definition, believes that there are some issues worth splitting the church over.”
https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/unity