Posted on 11/27/2020 8:13:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Have no idea who this is
How many workers who get fired leave with a lucrative arbitration settlement?
"Biblical" = Dressing like a biker while he's serving as a "pastor"
How does this happen? The pastor never met the elders in his church?
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Macdonald is a wolf is sheeps clothing..his firing was entirely biblical!!!! His actions were not what a pastor should have done
Excellent point. If the "senior pastor" of a church "doesn't know" or "has never met" HIS own "elders", THAT would be reason to fire him alone! The buck stops with him. So he's upset about his OWN negligence in not attending conference callings or bothering to check up on who was hired to run things at HIS church?
https://jamesmacdonaldministries.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/2019-Elders-Legend.png
I do, I sat under him for years. He had a wonderful teaching ministry.
God uses the fallen, even after King David slept with Bathshieba and killed her husband, God used him.
I have no judgement in this matter, I have not worshiped there for a long while, I moved.
There is biblical difference between a king and a pastor/elder. For kings, the scripture says, "In order that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, gives it to whomever He will, and sets over it the lowest of men." Dan 4:17
But for pastor/elders, the bible requires they be above blameless and above reproach.
**”Biblical” = Dressing like a biker while he’s serving as a “pastor”**
Pastors are supposed to be ‘cool’ and ‘with it’ donchaknow. Leather is great and much tougher than skin, but without a helmet, doesn’t increase crash survival chances very much. Wearing a leather biker vest to an indoor bible study is just plain vanity (”look at me! I’m a biker!”). If Harley wants me to advertise for them, they need to at least give me the decals, patches, or apparel.
Jesus blended in with the crowd so well that he had to speak up, and tell the guards that it was he that they were looking for in the garden.
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I don’t know who he is, but he seems to have quite the ego.
Going public with claims that something a “church” did was unbiblical is kookoo IMO. The media will mostly ignore it, unless they can use it to mock and discredit the work of Jesus Christ.
Also, the sovereignty of God should be recognized in all things. God used all sorts of evil people (Assyria, Babylon, etc.)to judge and punish the Jews. Many times the instrument God used was more evil than Israel; at least by human standards.
I don’t understand a lot of things. But i am trying to trust God more.
Here’s a bizarre thing, though... I can’t even find out WHO replaced this guy as “Senior Pastor”.
If you go to Harvest Bible Church’s website, all they list is the “elders” of their various campuses and ministries.
Are they still searching a permanent new pastor? If they are, why not say so publicly?
https://harvestbiblechapel.org/
This is what happens when the church is run more like a corporation than the body of Christ. And the world looks on and says “no thanks”.
Removing a pastor is very difficult for a church. The Pauline qualifications for an elder are outlined by the apostle Paul in 1 Tim 5:17-20. These men should be able to minister the Word of God and shepherd the flock during this difficult time for the church. The church will probably take some time to find the next senior pastor and deal with the inevitable fallout from this. We should be praying for these leaders.
Power corrupts
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Can someone offer a Bible citation for anything to do with firing a “Senior Pastor”?
If not, the question of what is “biblical” and what isn’t should be off the table, leaving simply state employment law and contracts.
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