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After failed reconciliation attempt with Harvest Bible Church, James MacDonald says firing was unbiblical
Christian Post ^ | 11/27/2020 | Leonardo Blair

Posted on 11/27/2020 8:13:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/27/2020 8:13:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Have no idea who this is


2 posted on 11/27/2020 8:18:21 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many workers who get fired leave with a lucrative arbitration settlement?


3 posted on 11/27/2020 8:20:27 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (No more Fox News.)
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To: SeekAndFind
‘Dude, you got fired. It happens, even unjustly, all the time – own what you can, get over the rest and get on with your life,”


Pretty good advice.
4 posted on 11/27/2020 8:21:52 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (No more Fox News.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Unbiblical" = Firing him

"Biblical" = Dressing like a biker while he's serving as a "pastor"


5 posted on 11/27/2020 8:22:56 AM PST by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: SeekAndFind
A group of Elders, who never met with me and mostly didn’t know me,

How does this happen? The pastor never met the elders in his church?

6 posted on 11/27/2020 8:25:08 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Gamecock

Ping


7 posted on 11/27/2020 8:27:18 AM PST by Cronos
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To: SeekAndFind

Macdonald is a wolf is sheeps clothing..his firing was entirely biblical!!!! His actions were not what a pastor should have done


8 posted on 11/27/2020 8:28:49 AM PST by polishprince
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>> How does this happen? The pastor never met the elders in his church? <<

Excellent point. If the "senior pastor" of a church "doesn't know" or "has never met" HIS own "elders", THAT would be reason to fire him alone! The buck stops with him. So he's upset about his OWN negligence in not attending conference callings or bothering to check up on who was hired to run things at HIS church?

https://jamesmacdonaldministries.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/2019-Elders-Legend.png

https://jamesmacdonaldministries.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Elder-Meeting-Attendance-Jan-Feb-2019.pdf

9 posted on 11/27/2020 8:35:17 AM PST by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: Nifster

I do, I sat under him for years. He had a wonderful teaching ministry.

God uses the fallen, even after King David slept with Bathshieba and killed her husband, God used him.

I have no judgement in this matter, I have not worshiped there for a long while, I moved.


10 posted on 11/27/2020 8:45:06 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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God uses the fallen, even after King David slept with Bathshieba and killed her husband, God used him.

There is biblical difference between a king and a pastor/elder. For kings, the scripture says, "In order that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, gives it to whomever He will, and sets over it the lowest of men." Dan 4:17

But for pastor/elders, the bible requires they be above blameless and above reproach.

11 posted on 11/27/2020 8:59:31 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: BillyBoy

**”Biblical” = Dressing like a biker while he’s serving as a “pastor”**

Pastors are supposed to be ‘cool’ and ‘with it’ donchaknow. Leather is great and much tougher than skin, but without a helmet, doesn’t increase crash survival chances very much. Wearing a leather biker vest to an indoor bible study is just plain vanity (”look at me! I’m a biker!”). If Harley wants me to advertise for them, they need to at least give me the decals, patches, or apparel.

Jesus blended in with the crowd so well that he had to speak up, and tell the guards that it was he that they were looking for in the garden.


12 posted on 11/27/2020 9:03:55 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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13 posted on 11/27/2020 9:06:55 AM PST by Gamecock ("The prosperity gospel is exactly like marrying someone for their money." -Sean Demars)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know who he is, but he seems to have quite the ego.


14 posted on 11/27/2020 9:34:43 AM PST by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Going public with claims that something a “church” did was unbiblical is kookoo IMO. The media will mostly ignore it, unless they can use it to mock and discredit the work of Jesus Christ.
Also, the sovereignty of God should be recognized in all things. God used all sorts of evil people (Assyria, Babylon, etc.)to judge and punish the Jews. Many times the instrument God used was more evil than Israel; at least by human standards.
I don’t understand a lot of things. But i am trying to trust God more.


15 posted on 11/27/2020 9:55:19 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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Here’s a bizarre thing, though... I can’t even find out WHO replaced this guy as “Senior Pastor”.

If you go to Harvest Bible Church’s website, all they list is the “elders” of their various campuses and ministries.

Are they still searching a permanent new pastor? If they are, why not say so publicly?

https://harvestbiblechapel.org/


16 posted on 11/27/2020 10:02:10 AM PST by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: aimhigh

This is what happens when the church is run more like a corporation than the body of Christ. And the world looks on and says “no thanks”.


17 posted on 11/27/2020 10:07:41 AM PST by uptowngirl
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To: BillyBoy

Removing a pastor is very difficult for a church. The Pauline qualifications for an elder are outlined by the apostle Paul in 1 Tim 5:17-20. These men should be able to minister the Word of God and shepherd the flock during this difficult time for the church. The church will probably take some time to find the next senior pastor and deal with the inevitable fallout from this. We should be praying for these leaders.


18 posted on 11/27/2020 10:19:46 AM PST by RetiredScientist
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To: chicagolady

Power corrupts

Absolute power corrupts absolutely


19 posted on 11/27/2020 10:21:54 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can someone offer a Bible citation for anything to do with firing a “Senior Pastor”?

If not, the question of what is “biblical” and what isn’t should be off the table, leaving simply state employment law and contracts.


20 posted on 11/27/2020 11:01:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (Know Jesus, know peace.)
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