[SkyDancer]

Not all - there were still Jewish settlements in Israel.

[D Rider]

Jonathan Cahn’s book The Oracle nails it all down on a jubilean schedule, and includes that Trumps role and life was tied directly to prophesy. Pretty fascinating.

[exnavy]

The jews failed to recognize who Jesus was.

[JesusIsLord]

But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him...If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me...if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity: Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob...

"The condition of national restoration is the confession of a national offense…" Is this Pastor Bill's conclusion? If so, I disagree.

Israel is a nation today - not because they confessed a national offense and not because they believe in Messiah Jesus. They have done neither. The fact is that modern day Israel is made up of mostly secular people many of whom are agnostic or atheist. The religious orthodox Jews, who may Christians ignorantly exalt, are modern day Pharasees. You know, those with the same mindset that killed Jesus.

The only reason Israel is a nation today and the only reason Jews are coming home is because God has choosen this time to regather them.

[impactplayer]

The “real” Jews have never left Jerusalem. Those who accepted their Messiah are the remnant - the true Jews. Those who rejected Messiah have been rejected. After about 15 years - gradually at first - non-Jews were grafted in (as Paul said), and they began to call themselves Christians. But they represent the remnant of the Jewish nations, and have never left.

[HChampagne]

The Jews are and always have been God’s favorite children. But being a favorite child is often no fun at all. Major responsibilities and obligations ensue. The OT is the history of God choosing them and their trying to avoid their responsibility. God wanted them to be a light to the nations, a servant to all. God finally had to become incarnate in order to show how it should be done. Be that as it may, they are still the apple of his eye and always will be. But I am not jealous or resentful because the Father of a family has more love for all of the other children than they can possibly handle.

[Shery]

God’s best was not “good enough” for them. Jesus did not intend to come and merely save them from the current oppressors, or to “make all their dreams come true”. He has a purpose for His people and they resisted God at every turn, but for the faithful few that are spoken of in Scripture. God punished them, just as Moses warned, and they rejected the true prophets God sent to warn them. When they wouldn’t even accept the testimony of His own Son, you can tie this to the parable of the landowner who planted a vineyard and left it in charge of tenants who rented it. When it came time to collect the earnings from his vineyard, he sent men to collect. The wicked tenants beat one, killed one and stoned one, after which he sent his son, thinking they’d respect him, but they did not. They killed him, also, thinking they’d get his inheritance. This was a mirror of what was to come shortly thereafter, when the Jews rejected Jesus.

Jesus warned that the kingdom of God would be taken away & given to others who will produce fruit. Jesus tells the people with this parable that he who falls on this stone (Jesus, himself) will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls with be crushed. This generation rejected His Son and had the Son killed, but this was God’s doing so that not only would the nation of Israel eventually be saved, but some people from every nation, tongue & people. God temporarily evicted His people from the “land”, seeming to annul the the contract with Abraham, but what many scholars seem to forget is that Abraham was not a participant in that contract. God put him into a deep sleep. God’s contract with Abraham was not able to be broken bu man, although the promises of punishment for disobedience and devotion to Him would bring consequences of being deposed of the land until they called out and sought Him in earnest. God will restore them when they do that, and when He restores them we will gain much from this, as Paul told the believers in his day who thought as many do today that God is finished with Israel.

[Shery]

Basically, the generation of Jesus’ day stumbled over the Stone-Jesus. Those who were believers got out because of the persecution of the believers, whether they be Jewish believers or Gentile. This was before AD 70.

[colorado tanker]

“I know, I know. We are Your chosen people. But, once in a while, can’t You choose someone else?” Tevye

[scott says]

There is the House of Judah and the House of Israel-——IF you do not know the difference between the two and which tribes belong to each—you have NO CLUE what Bible prophecy speaks of.
If you never heard the terms before—you are biblically illiterate———

[Zionist Conspirator]

Since arguing with the OP is clearly useless, I wish to point out some unfortunate truths for chrstianity, especially an allegedly original and long lost "faith only" Protestant type chrstianity.

For fifteen hundred years, all chrstianty did was to replace one "works righteousness" system with another--the difference bing that the earlier "works righteousness" system was inarguably and undeniably from the Mouth of G-d. This is something no version of chrstianity can claim.

For fifteen hundred years chrstianity never taught "total depravity" or penal substitution (even Luther didn't believe the latter). The Catholic concept of original sin is a wimp compared to Protestantism's total depravity.

For fifteen hundred years chrstianity did not teach penal substitution; even the Catholic version is very different and the other ancient chrstian churches reject total depravity, original sin, and penal substitution as heresies. The sole purpose of the "passion" was apparently to render the Chosen Nation an "accursed" one instead (G-d forbid!) and give some people an excuse to replace them as the "chosen" and to start a new religion. If it's new it ain't true.

The "new testament church" didn't have a written "new testament" at all during the first century. They operated without one. When your hero Paul was teaching that stuff you now read in his epistles, they were each and every one extra-Biblical. There is essentially no difference between the "new testament" and the "book of mormon." The idea that all ancient chrstianity can be found in those 27 books is an artificial doctrine invented later that treats this alleged "one true religion" as some long lost dinosaur species that has to be reconstructed from a small amount of evidence. Protestantism has many good critiques of the ancient churches but "sola scriptura" isn't one of them.

Low church Protestants who reject paedobaptism (a perfectly reasonable position) nevertheless insist that chrstianity is made up entirely of adult converts (because the "original new testament church" was made up of adult converts). But there is a difference. In the first century chrstianity was brand new and converts had to accept all its teachings no matter how much they contradicted previously held beliefs. Paedobaptism critics, however, create a situation where people are raised from the cradle believing in all the doctrines of chrstianity but who are considered "non-chrstians" until they have a spiritual-emotional experience. None of these people even seems to have a clue that "converting" to the beliefs one has held for a lifetime and intellectual adult conversion to something brand new and unheard of are two entirely different things. This leads to people who apparently think everyone in the world is somehow born believing in chrstianity and needing only enough NT verses quoted to them before they "get happy" and "become chrstians." Every time I have asked on this forum for proof that the "new testament" is truly divinely inspired my opponent has completely ignored my request and merely quoted NT verses. Obviously these people believe that I and everyone else in the world already "know" that chrstianity is true and only need to hear enough verses to "get happy."

Though it is certainly more internally consistent than its ancient opponents, Protestantism is an a-historical fraud. All the "believing" and all the "feeling" in the world cannot change this. The alleged fulfillment of low church Protestant prophecy cannot change this. And to merely "know that you know that you know that you know" is nothing but subjective moonshine.

So, between these two "works righteousness" systems, which do you prefer? The one unquestioningly from Heaven, or mere imitations whose rejection of depravity and penal substitution cuts out all logical grounds from their own claims?

[Shery]

When Pilate asked the rulers of the temple about Jesus being their King, they shouted they had no king but Caesar. When asked what to do with Jesus, they demanded that He be crucified. When given another chance to spare Jesus because Pilate stated that he found no fault with Jesus, he offered them a choice between Barabbas & Jesus, but they chose Barabbas.

This generation chose insurrection against God, just as previously, they chose to have kings over them instead of God as their king. There was no national repentance for their sin, even when it became obvious that Jesus rose from the dead and was the True Son of God. They hid the Truth from their own people, changing to a different calendar so as to muddle the purpose of the feasts so the people could not recognize that Jesus came the very day He was supposed to arrive, and every event that was of prophetic significance would not be recognized. The priests and rabbis no longer spoke of the coming of a Messiah, so He was not recognized although they had the Biblical texts at hand to know. Only a remnant would follow after Jesus.

God spoke through Jeremiah that Israel would pay double for all her sins, and in Daniel it states that the end would not come until 3 things were accomplished. 1.) The holy city would put an end to transgression, 2.) they would put an end to sin, & 3.) atone for wickedness in order to bring in everlasting Righteousness. This happens, as I understand it, at the end of the 70 weeks of Daniel. Israel is very much still a country that is NOT trusting in God, has still relied upon others to keep her& protect her. Not until that day that they confess their national sins and the 3 things mentioned above are complete will God truly intervene and draw all the remnant of Israel to Himself. 2 Chronicles 7:14.

[safisoft]

Why is it that God scattered the Jews, driving them out of the Land he gave them and putting them into exile these long millennia? What was the pivotal point of departure, two thousand years ago

You did not address the title of the article, so are we to assume that you think the reason Israel was scattered was because of "the Noachide error" as the title suggests? If so, then you are being anachronistic. While Judaism since the time of the Talmud (6th Century) has maintained that the "Noachide" plan for Gentiles was through the Seven Commands, there is no mention at all prior to the Tosefta of the Seven Commands. The Tosefta is late 2nd Century, a sort of appendix to the Mishnah. There is no mention at all in the Mishnah, or the Dead Sea Scrolls, either. None. Some in Christianity have sought to take the four instructions from the Acts 15 council as being "Noachide" but once again, this is anachronistic. In textual terms, the Noachide Laws date to at least 100 years after the Book of Revelation was written.

So, maybe you were drawing upon a supposed era that ended with the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70, culminating in the salting of Jerusalem itself in the early 2nd Century? If so, the answer to your question about how Judaism reasons that event is simple: because of "Sinat Chinam" [Baseless Hatred].

You made one point that seems quite shocking in light of Genesis 49:10. You said, "The scepter had departed from Judah."

Genesis 49:10 says, "The scepter shall to depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet until Shiloh comes to him and to him be the obedience of the peoples.

I am assuming you think that the underlined word "until" denotes an end of an era, or a condition. The Hebrew word "ki" is merely a conjunction. Here it is pointing to the purpose of the scepter residing in Judah - not residing until something future takes place. Most Jewish and Christian commentators think the mention of "Shiloh" is a mention of Messiah - and hence, the ultimate result of the Davidic line is Messiah - but that is not an end to the Kingship when Messiah comes. Both Jewish and Christian commentators maintain that Messiah is King.

[JerseyDvl]

I believe it was a massive Cereal famine. You couldn’t get a bowl anywhere.

[Cronos]

Pastor bill The condition of national restoration is the confession of a national offense… Even the Prophet of the Tanakh, Hosea predicted the same,

I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earl

Hosea wrote before 722 BC, before the Assyrian destruction of northern Israel - his message was to the northern Israelites, he was based in northern Israel and his message is to them like at the start of 5:1 [1] Hear ye this, O priests, and hearken, O ye house of Israel, and give ear, O house of the king: for there is a judgment against you, because you have been a snare to them whom you should have watched over, and a net spread upon Thabor.

... and [3] I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now Ephraim hath committed fornication, Israel is defiled.

and [5] And the pride of Israel shall answer in his face: and Israel and Ephraim shall fall in their iniquity, Juda also shall fall with them.

Wouldn't it make more sense that this was directed to the northern tribes coming back?