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To: All; pastorbillrandles
Since arguing with the OP is clearly useless, I wish to point out some unfortunate truths for chrstianity, especially an allegedly original and long lost "faith only" Protestant type chrstianity.

For fifteen hundred years, all chrstianty did was to replace one "works righteousness" system with another--the difference bing that the earlier "works righteousness" system was inarguably and undeniably from the Mouth of G-d. This is something no version of chrstianity can claim.

For fifteen hundred years chrstianity never taught "total depravity" or penal substitution (even Luther didn't believe the latter). The Catholic concept of original sin is a wimp compared to Protestantism's total depravity.

For fifteen hundred years chrstianity did not teach penal substitution; even the Catholic version is very different and the other ancient chrstian churches reject total depravity, original sin, and penal substitution as heresies. The sole purpose of the "passion" was apparently to render the Chosen Nation an "accursed" one instead (G-d forbid!) and give some people an excuse to replace them as the "chosen" and to start a new religion. If it's new it ain't true.

The "new testament church" didn't have a written "new testament" at all during the first century. They operated without one. When your hero Paul was teaching that stuff you now read in his epistles, they were each and every one extra-Biblical. There is essentially no difference between the "new testament" and the "book of mormon." The idea that all ancient chrstianity can be found in those 27 books is an artificial doctrine invented later that treats this alleged "one true religion" as some long lost dinosaur species that has to be reconstructed from a small amount of evidence. Protestantism has many good critiques of the ancient churches but "sola scriptura" isn't one of them.

Low church Protestants who reject paedobaptism (a perfectly reasonable position) nevertheless insist that chrstianity is made up entirely of adult converts (because the "original new testament church" was made up of adult converts). But there is a difference. In the first century chrstianity was brand new and converts had to accept all its teachings no matter how much they contradicted previously held beliefs. Paedobaptism critics, however, create a situation where people are raised from the cradle believing in all the doctrines of chrstianity but who are considered "non-chrstians" until they have a spiritual-emotional experience. None of these people even seems to have a clue that "converting" to the beliefs one has held for a lifetime and intellectual adult conversion to something brand new and unheard of are two entirely different things. This leads to people who apparently think everyone in the world is somehow born believing in chrstianity and needing only enough NT verses quoted to them before they "get happy" and "become chrstians." Every time I have asked on this forum for proof that the "new testament" is truly divinely inspired my opponent has completely ignored my request and merely quoted NT verses. Obviously these people believe that I and everyone else in the world already "know" that chrstianity is true and only need to hear enough verses to "get happy."

Though it is certainly more internally consistent than its ancient opponents, Protestantism is an a-historical fraud. All the "believing" and all the "feeling" in the world cannot change this. The alleged fulfillment of low church Protestant prophecy cannot change this. And to merely "know that you know that you know that you know" is nothing but subjective moonshine.

So, between these two "works righteousness" systems, which do you prefer? The one unquestioningly from Heaven, or mere imitations whose rejection of depravity and penal substitution cuts out all logical grounds from their own claims?

44 posted on 10/17/2020 8:03:11 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Quote-’Every time I have asked on this forum for proof that the “new testament” is truly divinely inspired my opponent has completely ignored my request and merely quoted NT verses. ‘

The four gospels in the New Testament have divinely inspired discrepancies and contradictions that, for 2,000 years, couldn’t really look like divinely inspired.

That’s the beauty of the ‘about 2,000’ swine reference in Mark, the 2nd book.

It so describes the last 2,000 years.
And it’s a number that is found in an interesting place in the Old Covenant.
Joshua.
The distance natural Israel was to be kept from the ark while passing into the Promised Land.

People born 500 years ago couldn’t understand that clue in the Old and New Testaments.
People born today can.
The world may not understand the last 2,000 years were predicted in both the Old and New Testaments.
The fact the number of 2,000 was only recorded in Mark is a divinely inspired clue/riddle/mystery.
And the fact that John doesn’t have the account is another divinely inspired clue/riddle/mystery.

Not an insignificant mystery either. mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven.

It helps to have the Key to unlock the mysteries.
The Key is the Messiah of Israel, Torah Made Flesh, the Passover Lamb.
And what He has divinely inspired to be written in the New Testament about what was, what is, and what is to come.


45 posted on 10/17/2020 9:42:11 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Why Have Torah observant Jews,(among others), been sent into Exile for 2000 years and then recently brought back into the land, in unbelief as Ezekiel 36 says? You still haven’t addressed the question that the article has raised?


51 posted on 10/18/2020 6:40:07 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusale)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Every time I have asked on this forum for proof that the "new testament" is truly divinely inspired -- and on what basis do you claim that the book of Numbers is divinely inspired
94 posted on 10/21/2020 12:39:20 AM PDT by Cronos
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