Posted on 09/27/2020 4:16:00 PM PDT by JAG 5000
JAG Writes: Some Thoughts On The Religion Of Evolution , , ,
Some talk about Abiogenesis {life came from non-life}
Most Evolutionists today do NOT make a case for Abiogenesis, but some Thread-Evolutionists have argued for the possibility. To me its an absurd notion. Life cannot come from non-life.
Most Evolutionists these days go with the word Evolution and hawk "Natural Selection" and "Random mutation" , , ,
My view is that it does not matter what you call it -- the fact remains that , ,
Evolutionists claim that , , ,
~ natural selection and ~ :random mutation and ~ atoms and molecules and ~ chemical reactions and ~ etc etc etc
plus unthinking non-intelligent Time plus unthinking non-intelligent Chance plus unthinking non-intelligent Matter , , ,
, , eventually produced a situation where our ancestors crawled up out of the Primordial Slime or Primordial Soup, at first just a tiny speck, later to become the size of a dime, later to become the size of a golf ball, later to become a Bullfrog or Whatever They Say It Was later to become a Monkey or a Chimp, later to become a "George W. Bush."
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Moreover, , , Evolutionists believe that , , ,
~ unthinking non-intelligent Time plus ~ unthinking non-intelligent Chance plus ~ unthinking non-intelligent Matter , , ,
. . . produced a , , ,
■ highly complex Human Brain and ■ a highly complex Human Eye and ■ a highly complex Fully Functioning Human Body and ■ a highly complex Earth and ■ a highly complex Universe. and eventually produced a , , , ■ highly complex "George W. Bush"
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It takes a lot of Faith to believe all that up there. And my view is that anybody who believes all that up there is a Great Man Of Faith -- this is why I speak about the Religion Of Evolution.
Speaking about Faith , ,
I do NOT say that Evolution is not true.
Theistic Evolution may be the way it happened. My view is that it has NOT been scientifically proved that the one-celled speck in the Primordial Slime eventually became "Oprah Winfrey" and "Joe Biden" , ,
, , but, , ,
, , Evolution is not a crucial issue for the Christian anyway.
Millions of us say Evolutionists have NOT scientifically proved that "George W. Bush" started off as a single-celled speck that "came up out of the Slime" -- but even if they do, one day, prove that it happened that way, So what? Who cares?
We Christians will forever believe in the God that created the highly complex Human Person, the highly complex Human Brain, the highly complex Human Eye, the highly complex Earth, the highly complex Universe, and all that exists --- how He did it, is interesting but it has zero to do with our Faith in God , ,,
, , , repeat , , ,
how He did it, is interesting but it has zero to do with our Faith in God , ,,
"Have Faith in God."___The Lord Jesus {Mark 11:22}
JAG
” Life cannot come from non-life.”
That shoots down the Book of Genesis.
Comparing George w bush to single-celled specks is an insult to single-celled specks.
>>>JAG 5000 wrote, ” Life cannot come from non-life.”<<<
>>>TexasGator wrote, “That shoots down the Book of Genesis.”<<<
God is life, Gator. Are you sure you are from Texas?
Mr. Kalamata
I think you knew that was nonsense before you posted it.
” ~ atoms and molecules and ~ chemical reactions”
You cannot deny atoms and molecules and chemical reactions make us what we are.
No, it’s a logical fallacy called Special Pleading.
” ~ atoms and molecules and ~ chemical reactions”
You cannot deny atoms and molecules and chemical reactions make us what we are.
Can God die?
Anyone who still clings to “macro” evolution is a willfully-blind fool, who holds fast to their materialistic faith in a desperate attempt to avoid acknowledging the existence of God, and all that portends regarding their personal responsibility to that God.
I’m not the one committing a logical fallacy here. By artificially limiting the search for origins to only “science”, which by definition is blind to anything non-material, you’re performing the fool’s errand from the old joke about looking for your car keys under the street light outside, even though you lost them inside, because “the light’s better there.”
I guess it’s true that when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. “Science” isn’t the answer to every question in life, and never can be. It’s just a tool, like a hammer. And the more we examine the “scientific” theories about the origin of life, the more obviously lacking they become.
The logical fallacy you’re committing is refusing to acknowledge that truth is truth, whether it can be fully determined by your preferred method or not, and that it remains true regardless of your opinion about it. We should look at this question not as a scientific one, since science is obviously at least partially blind to it, but rather as a logical, evidentiary issue.
Two things are clear: The very existence of complex, intelligent life on this planet is a miracle, and science alone is woefully unable to explain it. So where does that leave us? Just keep digging in the crap pile of materialism, hoping that we’ll find a pony under there eventually, or acknowledge that perhaps the full answer lies somewhere else, whether we personally prefer that possibility or not?
Some interesting facts
Darwin had no formal education in
Medicine
Math
Biology
Horticulture
Animal husbandry
Or any college of science
He attended seminary,,,before he flunked out of that
He was a failed apostate preacher
who could and did draw pictures of plants and hugs and birds and animals .
Oh,,and he could write,
He then wrote a fiction (theory) book called
Origin of Species.
Darwin was the one who took the verb RACE ,,and turned it into a noun .
He claimed whites beat blacks in the race to climb down from the trees to change from APES to the different races (types) of man.
That’s where and when white supremacy was invented.
So basically,,,Darwin was literally the first RACIST !
He invented racism !
See,,
First there was nothing
Then nothing exploded in a big bang
Then that nothing exploded and became everything
Then the nothing that exploded and became everything got rained on
Then the the nothing that exploded and became everything and got rained on got struck lightning and became a living glob of protoplasm
that decided without a brain to change itself
into a fish, then amphibian, then a ape, then a man.
Evolution is a religion I call Darwinism.
Ymmv
To evolve out of a human egg smaller than the diameter of a hair and the sperm even smaller than that for that cell to develop into a human has to have the hand of God in there; according to evolutionists it “evolved” because, well, it evolved but they don’t explain the how and why.
I have no problem with the basics of evolution
We see random variation in all thinks.. that difference traits would give advantages and disadvantages in reproduction is something a dog breeder can demonstrate..even God demonstrate culling out of bad and saving good with the Flood and Sodom
But the extent clames for evolution are irrational... the first life could not “evolve” from non life..so two methods species creation must exist
And if reproduction is required to propagate a gene mutation..explain gay? (If genetic it sure does not give reproduction advantages)
Also intelligent design done exist..from intelligent (vs nature) selection (again..dog breeders and like) to intelligent genetic design.. that you can even pattern...but how could you test for intelligent design vs nature genetic mutation? Especially if the intelligent genetic design occurs thousands of years back covered with random mutation?
The statement that all live is proven natural evolution is simply fault
“That shoots down the Book of Genesis.“
Not at all. All living things get their life from the same source. It’s inherited. If you read Jesus’s genealogy in the Gospel of Matthew, it states that Adam was the “Son of god.”
Ummmm - it shoots down the Book of Genesis only if you remove God from it...
I think you’d really enjoy this free online book - Center for Scientific Creation
https://www.creationscience.com/
I actually tried to teach this at my church back in 2011 and 2012, without these videos explaining it on a whiteboard was truly challenging. Dr. Walt Brown gives a short intro and Bryan Nickel goes deep into the hydroplate theory, careful if you’re tired he speaks in a monotone but the explanations and video graphics are very good.
All arguments for the beginning of the universe constitute special pleading.
I have a DVD with 3 videos done by the likes of
Michael J. Behe
I have tried for years to get folks who believe in evolution to watch them to get a dose of real science.
Zero would.
Almost like there was some invisible force keeping their mind closed.
For me it has given new depth to the term
“willfull ignorance “ .
Notice Evo fanatics won’t touch just “what” exploded in big bang .
I tell them to look up the definition of “ singularity “ !
/-)
Spoiler alert,,it means
Nothing.
How did these folks pass euclidean geometry class
when they metaphorically skip the shortest distance
between two points is a straight line proof ?
They always want to start their Evo theology at step 2 of their proof.
Yes, I did use the word theology on purpose cuz secular humanism is their God,
and evolution is their religion.
Noticed that no one corrected me about Darwin’s academic credentials /-).
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