Therefore:
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Be rooted in Christ!
Posted on 07/24/2020 7:46:31 PM PDT by lightman
Conservative Christians are using religious liberty as a basis to oppress the marginalized as well as traumatize parents of children who identify as LGBTQ, according to a retired Episcopal Church bishop and a filmmaker.
Retired New Hampshire Bishop Gene Robinson and filmmaker Daniel Karslake were hosted for a discussion by the Reconciling Ministries Network (RMN), an unofficial United Methodist LGBTQ caucus, on July 15. The bishop and the film producer equated God’s purposes with intersectional identity politics of the Left.
Robinson was the first man openly in a same-sex partnership to be consecrated a bishop in the Episcopal Church and the worldwide Anglican Communion. Karslake is known for his 2007 film “For the Bible Tells Me So,” screened at the Sundance Film Festival, which was critical of conservative evangelical subcultures.
Karslake’s new film “For They Know Not What They Do” was the starting point for discussion, with Karslake and Robinson noting tensions parents face when a child “comes out” as LGBTQ within a non-affirming community. Fear at the loss of community, status, and friends is almost as daunting for parents as it is for a child “especially,” Karslake argued, “when faith is in the mix.”
According to the speakers, conservative Christians uncritically parrot false conceptions of love that their churches teach. Mantras like “hate the sin but not the sinner” can be sincerely purported as God-approved perspectives. If love can be non-affirming, then conservative Christians, the two speakers argued, believe they are obeying God.
However, the speakers observed that when an individual in a non-affirming community publicly identifies as LGBTQ, “it is rare that a conservative Christian isn’t changed.” Some will see that their love was actually hate, but others will have a difficult time recognizing their error and plunge deeper into their conservative buffers.
In these scenarios, the speakers paint the conservative Christian as a passive loser. They do what their churches tell them, retreat into the safety of uniformity, and reject considering LGBTQ issues until directly touched by a personal event.
Karslake stated that conservative Christians turn their disdain towards transgenderism because they “know that they lost the gay thing.” The speakers’ assumptions of conservative Christians do not leave room for them to thoughtfully, proactively, and lovingly disagree with Leftist perspectives.
To be fair, Robinson noted that LGBTQ individuals likewise prefer their bubbles. Safe spaces of affirmation are kept safe by limiting contact with other communities. Therefore, he maintained that it is imperative for affirming allies to speak up. Karslake concluded that, though his films are accused of preaching to the choir, they must when the “choir isn’t singing loud enough.”
Another major hurdle to the LGBTQ community, according to Karslake, is a monopolization conservatives have on religious liberty. Personal connections are a crucial method—if not, the only available method—against the forces of politicized faith because conservatives have misconstrued and abused religious freedom to support special interests “in oppressive ways.”
The speakers insisted that religious motives are both oppressive and can result in atrocities. They cited the Pulse nightclub shooting, in which a 29-year-old man killed 49 people and wounded 53 others inside an Orlando nightclub frequented by gay men.
“There was religion all over that,” Karslake argued, a seeming reference to the perpetrator’s Muslim background. “There was religion behind the gun. There was definitely religion in front of the gun because so many of these young people at pulse…this was church for them.”
Neither speaker clarified what kind of “religious motives” might be behind the atrocity, leaving the listener to suppose that conservative arguments in favor of religious freedom and conscience protection somehow leads to massacres.
Robinson and Karslake declared that congregants must advocate for the oppressed in all intersections.
“I can’t preach a pride sermon and not make a connection between us,” Robinson stated. “When I see an LGBTQ person being sexists or racist or whatever I want to grab them and shake them and ask, ‘haven’t you learned anything from this experience?!”
“Intersectionality has always been there” Karslake maintained. Therefore, other justice movements should be supported and “stand up for the oppressed in whatever way” in whatever form that oppression presents.
If we do not support every movement perfectly, it is “okay with God,” Robinson confirmed. Progress, he believes, is still happening as evidenced by significant opposition within the Episcopal Church to Robinson’s 2003 consecration and less controversy around four other bishops who identify as gay in their later consecrations.
Robinson concluded that “love wins” because “God is love.”
Can we use GPS?
“know that they lost the gay thing.”
Therefore:
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Be rooted in Christ!
Let us not forget this person left his wife and kids to “marry” a male person then divorced. He has zero moral authority over a street hustler.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
Serving other gods.
Deu 12:31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Homofascists are militant antiChristians.
>Karslake’s new film “For They Know Not What They Do” was the starting point for discussion, with Karslake and Robinson noting tensions parents face when a child “comes out” as LGBTQ within a non-affirming community. Fear at the loss of community, status, and friends is almost as daunting for parents as it is for a child “especially,” Karslake argued, “when faith is in the mix.”
Bet YouRube doesn’t ban this film as they do the one about Mohammed.
Episcopals aren’t Christians. It’s a gay cult. The Church of the High Holy Anus and Sainted Rectal Prolapse.
They should wear “pink sock” pins to identify themselves.
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/pink+sock
>> Fear at the loss of community, status, and friends is almost as daunting for parents as it is for a child “especially,” Karslake argued, “when faith is in the mix.”
...In August 2008, (Obama) told Southern California megachurch Pastor Rick Warren his definition of marriage: “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”
He later added: “I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage, but I do believe in civil unions.”
Wow, what a twisting these heretics go through.
Pride is the first sin and, these folks can’t even understand that.
And....we haven’t lost the gay thing, they have...they just don’t believe it.
Gene Robinson says he believes in Christ and is saved by Grace. We must respect what he is teaching and not say anything contrary to what he preaches because again, he believes in Christ no matter what his degenerate unrepentant works produce which includes leaving his wife and children to embrace a sexual fetish lifestyle that is centered on sexual practices with othther males. I mean it’s like Jesus never stated Matthew 18: 15-18 where two already gathered in His name were given the OK to dictate loosed on earth will be loosed in Heaven for those refusing to repent /s.
War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength!
Gene Robinson is a self-absorbed sociopathic drunk.
And that description explains everything you need to know about him.
ELCA — not Missouri Synod Lutheran Christian Church!
Well, he’s right about one thing: the “religion of peace” was definitely behind the Pulse shooting in Orlando.
Some things just need to be discriminated against and homosexuality is definitely one of these.
War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength!
As someone who does not let a year go by without reading every word of the Bible at least once, I will declare that expression is not found in the authorized version or any version I'm familiar with. Of course, if you conflate unrelated passages, some very peculiar doctrines can be cobbled together that are clearly contrary to the will of God, but as such it's not biblical. Now, here's a seldom quoted verse that does appear. In Psalm 15, describing the one who shall be saved, king David said in verse 4, "In whose eyes a vile person is despised, But he honors those who fear the Lord" (NKJV).
So Mr. Robinson can continue down the rabbit hole of perversion all he wants. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
1984, just 36 years late.
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