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This new poll could raise serious concerns for American Pentecostals and Charismatics: Largest declines orthodox, biblical belief
Christian Post ^ | 05/01/2020 | Michael Brown

Posted on 05/01/2020 7:25:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A new Barna poll points to a dramatic drop in biblical beliefs among American Pentecostals and Charismatics. If the findings are accurate, what are the likely causes?

According to the poll, “although we proclaim ‘In God We Trust’ on our currency, a slim 51% majority of Americans believe in a biblical view of God – down from 73% thirty years ago. Increasingly, the research finds mounting evidence that Americans are both redefining – and rejecting – God.

“Stunningly, Americans are more confident about the existence of Satan than they are of God. Overall, 56% contend that Satan is an influential spiritual being, yet almost half (49%) are not fully confident that God truly exists.”

More specifically, “The largest declines in possession of an orthodox, biblical perspective on the nature of God since 1991 were among individuals who attend Pentecostal or charismatic Protestant churches (down by 27 percentage points); people in the 18 to 29 year old category (down 26 points); adults in the Elders generation, (i.e., people born before 1946, down 25 points); and women (down 25 points).”

To be sure, some of this data is perplexing. Why has an almost identical decline occurred among the old and the young? One would have expected this from 18-29 year-olds but not from those born before 1946. And why virtually the same decline among women? What explains that?

As for the dramatic drop among Pentecostals and Charismatics, that is perplexing as well, since in other, international polls, Pentecostals and Charismatics led the way in daily Bible study and prayer. They also tended to have higher standards of holiness and be more engaged in outreach. (For details and discussion, see the chapter “Testing the Spirits” in my book Authentic Fire, and see this major, 2006 survey.)

In keeping with this, a survey released earlier this year indicated that Pentecostal and Charismatic pastors were much more likely to uphold the biblical definition of marriage than so-called mainline pastors. Indeed, they were less likely to affirm same-sex “marriage” than even Baptist pastors (respectively, 1 percent to 3 percent).

That’s because Pentecostals and Charismatics tend to have solidly conservative views of the Bible and also put a strong emphasis on personal piety and devotion. Their Bible colleges and seminaries tend to me more conservative as well.

On the flip side – and I write as an insider – we have cultivated many aberrant practices and doctrines in our midst and we have done a very poor job of self-policing. (I address this at length in Playing with Holy Fire.)

Still, over the years, we have affirmed orthodox, biblical fundamentals. Why, then, serious and steep drop? What are the causes behind it?

I do not have access to the full results of the Barna poll, so I can not analyze all the data. But if Barna’s polling is accurate, my educated guess would be this: We are reaping the fruit of preaching a me-centered, self-improvement gospel that is not the gospel at all. We are seeing the results of our failure to teach doctrinal foundations, choosing to major instead on esoteric spiritual experiences and secondary (or tertiary) issues. We have reaped what we have sown.

Again, I cannot prove that these are the causes. But what cannot be denied is our failure, especially in some of our largest, most visible ministries, to major on the majors. To preach a clear gospel message that convicts of sin and points to the cross. To call for repentance. To teach more on the nature of God and the centrality of the Lord Jesus (along with teaching on the ministry of the Spirit, which we often do quite well).

In times past, we preached that sinners were wretched and that grace was amazing. Today we tell sinners they are amazing, making grace a needless afterthought.

In times past, we preached a gospel of salvation. Today we preach a gospel of self-improvement.

In times past, we preached death to the flesh, death to self, and death to sin, pointing to a brand new life in and under Jesus. Today, we preach that Jesus came so you could fulfill your dreams, that He came to make you into a bigger and better you.

We used to preach the gospel of self-denial. Today we preach the gospel of self-realization.

And sadly, it is Pentecostals and Charismatics who have often led the way in preaching this so-called gospel message.

Could it be, then, that with so much of the culture abandoning gospel foundations, that our lack of rootedness has caused many more to go astray? That our bad habits are catching up to us?

A worship leader in a major Charismatic church that is often criticized for being doctrinally lax posted this on April 10: “I find myself increasingly troubled when I look at western Christian culture and see such a startling lack of representation or instruction on VITAL teachings in scripture; particularly the passages that warn and admonish. It troubles me that teachings on these passages are virtually nonexistent in modern preaching, but if I sit down and just read a couple chapters of scripture they’re so prevalent I can’t ESCAPE them. And no, I’m not talking about the Old Testament/Covenant. I’m talking about the teachings of JESUS. His apostles. Peter. James. John. Paul. Those guys. So much heresy is running rampant in the church because we’re not clearly preaching the reality of eternal judgment, the reality of heaven and hell, or the frequent commands concerning holiness, godliness, purity and true Jesus apprenticeship. I don’t know quite how we got here, but somehow we’ve created ‘Christian’ cultures that edit scriptures, remove the gravity of His holy commandments, and numb peoples ears to real truth. . . .”

He hit the nail on the head, multiple times at that.

I have the privilege of preaching in hundreds of churches across America (and around the world), and many of the finest are Pentecostal and Charismatic. They are passionate. They are Word-based. They are vibrant. And they are bearing much fruit. That’s why this movement, as a whole, continues to lead the world in church growth and missions outreach.

But we cannot minimize the glaring problems in our midst. Much has been given to us. Much will be required.

It’s time we get back to the basics. The Spirit will certainly add His powerful confirmation as we do.


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; charismatics; pentecostals
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1 posted on 05/01/2020 7:25:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t take part in polls. How valid is this poll. I really do not care to give my religious views to strangers.


2 posted on 05/01/2020 7:30:07 AM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold)
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To: SeekAndFind

Real Bible study would find Jesus admonished more times in total than He ever said words of “nice” and be “nice.”

He also talked about Hell and damnation more than love.


3 posted on 05/01/2020 7:30:24 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: SeekAndFind

Matthew 24:12-13 (NIV2011)
12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.


4 posted on 05/01/2020 7:31:56 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: SeekAndFind
There goes Mike Murdock's "seed" and "harvest".


5 posted on 05/01/2020 7:35:12 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Christian Post isn’t transparent about its ownership, is it?

Interesting....


6 posted on 05/01/2020 7:35:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

2 Chronicles 7:14

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”


7 posted on 05/01/2020 7:40:08 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: SeekAndFind

“In times past, we preached that sinners were wretched and that grace was amazing. Today we tell sinners they are amazing, making grace a needless afterthought.

In times past, we preached a gospel of salvation. Today we preach a gospel of self-improvement.

In times past, we preached death to the flesh, death to self, and death to sin, pointing to a brand new life in and under Jesus. Today, we preach that Jesus came so you could fulfill your dreams, that He came to make you into a bigger and better you.

We used to preach the gospel of self-denial. Today we preach the gospel of self-realization.

And sadly, it is Pentecostals and Charismatics who have often led the way in preaching this so-called gospel message.”

This. All of this. The “special snowflake virus” has overwhelmed so many of today’s churches. As a Methodist Christian, I speak from sad experience.


8 posted on 05/01/2020 7:46:55 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: mewzilla

Okay, I will bite.
     Who owns the Christian Post?


9 posted on 05/01/2020 7:47:44 AM PDT by ptsal (C Bust the NVIA)
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To: jagusafr

Post 8- Well said.
   thanks


10 posted on 05/01/2020 7:49:34 AM PDT by ptsal (C Bust the NVIA)
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To: ptsal

I don’t know.... but I found this:

https://religionnews.com/2018/10/11/christian-post-parent-firm-former-ceo-indicted-by-new-york-da-on-fraud-charges/


11 posted on 05/01/2020 7:54:56 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

P&Cs trust their feelings more than the Word.


12 posted on 05/01/2020 7:55:43 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The leap toward apostacy began when emotions became their measure of truth. Now they’re just crazy and shallow.


13 posted on 05/01/2020 8:12:08 AM PDT by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind
I really like Ray Comfort's (Living Waters) method for explaining the Gospel to the lost. I think he does a great job of explaining to people that they in fact are "not special" (in spite of what their mothers tell them) and that we all need a Savior.

He also believes that the 20th Century evangelism methodology is why there is such a large "falling away" within American churches.

14 posted on 05/01/2020 8:18:24 AM PDT by Perseverando (Liberals, Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: mewzilla

Posted by someone with a fake name.


15 posted on 05/01/2020 8:31:56 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Bonemaker

Good ol’ Mike,
What’s He
Selling
These Days?


16 posted on 05/01/2020 8:34:10 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: SeekAndFind
The poll probably distorts and exaggerated, but there may be some truth in it. Older people dying. Younger people spending too much time on their phones. That makes the US less religious than it was 10 years ago. The Bernie Sanders thing didn't help much either.

Western Europe lost religion when the consumer society came in. America already had mass consumption and was already more affluent than Europe, so consumerism didn't diminish America's religiosity. Social media, though, may be another story.

Religion does run in cycles in the US, though. There are periodic revivals or Great Awakenings when piety peaks and then there are the low points in between. The Fourth (or Fifth) Great Awakening began in the 1970s (if not earlier), so we are due for a trough and eventually a revival.

17 posted on 05/01/2020 9:17:53 AM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Early in the Pentecostal movement, many of the pastors were originally Baptists. Those pastors had a solid foundation of scripture and taught the scriptures. Once they died out, many were replaced with leaders who replaced teaching with preaching. Doctrine was replaced with emotional alter calls. And most of the alter calls have nothing to do with repentance or salvation.

I’d love to attend a charismatic church if I could find one that taught the scriptures and kept the music volume under control. Doesn’t exist any more.


18 posted on 05/01/2020 9:40:48 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t understand why these two are lumped together; they’re nothing alike.


19 posted on 05/01/2020 9:50:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a SOUND MIND.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This sinful, apostate country deserves EVERYTHING we are getting, and all of what’s coming.


20 posted on 05/01/2020 10:37:56 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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