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NIV Quest Study Bible: How Do We Know the Bible Is True?
Bible Gateway Blog ^ | August 26, 2019 | Jonathan Petersen

Posted on 09/01/2019 3:49:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Question One: How do we know the Bible is true? (Hebrews 4:12)

According to the Bible, all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16). Peter confirmed this when he said that those who wrote the Bible were not speaking on their own but spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21). Many parts of Scripture are directly attributed to God through use of phrases like This is what the Lord says (e.g., Exodus 4:22). Finally, Jesus often quoted from the Old Testament and affirmed it as being God’s Word.

Prophecies that were later fulfilled are corroboration of the accuracy of the Bible’s claim to be God’s Word. For example, the vision recorded in Daniel 7 correctly predicted the rise of the Medo-Persian Empire, the Greek Empire under Alexander the Great, and the Roman Empire.

Archaeological discoveries are also important evidence of the Bible’s accuracy. For example, for many years King David was believed by some to be a fictional character. But recently a composition from a king of Syria referring to the “house of David” was discovered at Tel Dan. This writing provides tangible evidence that ancient rulers indeed recognized the dynasty of David in Judah.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: accuracy; bible; christianity; god; gospels; holyspirit; inerrancy; jesus; manuscripts; newtestament; oldtestament; scriptures; sutdybible; texasgatortroll; truth; wordofgod
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The way that's presented, it looks like circular reasoning. "the bible is true because the bible says it's true. But there are other ways...

God reveals his power in two ways:
1) Miracles which reveal the power of God.
2) Prophecies which reveal the foreknowledge of God.

Reasons we know scripture is true:
1) The message itself. To Love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself and to even love your enemies is a higher calling than other religions that will tell you do no harm. The bible calls us to an active love.
2) The message itself. Most religions consider their God or gods to be holy and pure. But the Bible tells us to "Be Holy for I am holy" and "Be Perfect for I am Perfect". The BIble tells us that God is going to judge us by his own standard which is holy perfection.


That we need to be perfect is a different standard than other religions. And that illustrates the need for forgiveness.
3) We have prophecies such as Israel being gathered back from all over the world that have been fulfilled in the last century. Lev 26, Ezekiel 20:34,Isaiah 11:11-12,Isaiah 43:5-6,21,Psalm 107:2-3,Jeremiah 29:14.Amos 9:11-15,Zechariah 8:4-8, and others.
4) You have the testimony of the early church. They would have seen Jesus themselves.
5) You have references by secular historians.
6) You do have archaeological digs.
7) You have the coherence of the scriptures. The Rabbi's writing before Jesus had identified 167 prophecies about the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled them all.

Individually, God reveals himself to us when we


21 posted on 09/01/2019 4:46:31 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SkyDancer
How do we know if it’s false?

There would need to be provable falsehoods.

22 posted on 09/01/2019 4:46:36 PM PDT by fso301
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To: TexasGator

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>> “Daniel was written after Alexander was dead.” <<

An incredibly foolish lie!

Much of Daniel was written while Nebuchadnessar was still alive, and all of it before Alexander was born.
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23 posted on 09/01/2019 4:49:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

NASB is what I read. Most literal translation of the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts for a modern translation.

In the past I have read the NRSV (dislike) and NIV. Much prefer the NASB


24 posted on 09/01/2019 4:55:15 PM PDT by DallasGal (Don't worry, I've fantasized your demise in ways that cause me to pray for myself)
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To: the_Watchman

“Daniel, the author, “

Circular logic.


25 posted on 09/01/2019 4:55:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: fso301

So far it’s all been proven to be true and accurate.


26 posted on 09/01/2019 4:57:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: editor-surveyor

At least according to the Jews, Daniel was written during the 2nd century BC during the reign of Antiochus IV Epiphanes. This was the time of the Maccabees. Well after Alexander.


27 posted on 09/01/2019 4:57:21 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: DannyTN

The Dead Sea Scrolls was an amazing find which indicated the fidelity most scribes had in transcribing the texts. While some errors were found, practically 98% of the DSS matches exactly what has survived into our Bibles today. If these were not from God, how could any religious text endure thousands of years without major revisions?


28 posted on 09/01/2019 4:59:55 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It takes an act of faith to believe the entire bible is the literal word of God... There is much of it that sounds too far fetched to be true, like Noah’s ark and the flood covering the whole earth... or Jonah and the whale. I think it stems from us trying to put the greatness of God into simple human understanding and being limited to humans words and especially after the languages were confused. The example I got was that the Hebrew language used I think 5 or 6 different words that would all be translated in English to the same word, Love.

I had a really hard time trying to figure out what the King James version was saying, much less what it meant. I was taught the bible had all the answers man had on how we should live our lives... but I did not know what it was saying. I really did not even pick one up, most of my adult life... and especially after the internet when I could just search for, what does the bible say about “X”
(which is still a good tool, many times you get multiple good verses back to read...)

Last year I found Amir Tsarfati and he kept talking about Ezekiel’s war brewing, so instead of reading the King James version I found an online NIV version and read Ezekiel... I understood what he was saying, so then I decided it was time to read the whole bible.

I got an Interlinear NIV Hebrew-English Old Testament because I wanted to see the original text translated as it was written, But the NIV is just written in plain English that you don’t need to try to figure out what it is saying...

I found it interesting listening to somebody reading the King James while following along in my NIV and where they read something different, they come back and clarify with exactly what my Bible says in the first place.


29 posted on 09/01/2019 5:04:18 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: AzNASCARfan

The other issue with the King James is that King James ordered certain passages changed to fit his thinking.

For example, the Hebrew Bible says “You will not murder”, the King James says “Thou shall not kill”. Big difference. But King Jame wanted it to say “kill” so the translators made it say that.


30 posted on 09/01/2019 5:31:02 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: AzNASCARfan
It takes an act of faith to believe the entire bible is the literal word of God.

And why couldn't God literally use allegory, metaphor and descriptions suitable for comprehension by a primitive people?

31 posted on 09/01/2019 5:32:03 PM PDT by fso301
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To: AzNASCARfan

I use NLT, but it’s basically plain, modern English, also.


32 posted on 09/01/2019 5:40:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A friend of mine calls the NIV the “Nearly Inspired Version.”

I call it the redacted Bible, because it is missing so many verses in the NT.

The translators used a different Greek manuscript than some of the older English translations.

The earlier comment about using a King James and ignoring the italicized words is spot-on. That yields an almost perfect translation from the original languages, albeit with awkward syntax.


33 posted on 09/01/2019 5:42:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Given the rather serious and continuous missteps of the clergy and the organization that protects them, this is a very important question.


34 posted on 09/01/2019 6:03:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: SkyDancer

Not a good argument.


35 posted on 09/01/2019 6:04:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: TexasGator

“Daniel was written after Alexander was dead.”

Jesus spoke of the reliability of the Book of Daniel see Matthew 24:15


36 posted on 09/01/2019 6:15:23 PM PDT by fatboy
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To: GingisK

But it is. Lots of liberals try to prove it wrong.


37 posted on 09/01/2019 6:18:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

It is amazing to see so many archeology sites pop up exactly where the Bible said they’d be. ‘Tis a warm and happy feeling.


38 posted on 09/01/2019 6:21:24 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: SkyDancer

Our pastor did a series of sermons on the Ten Commandments. It isn’t so much more than “Don’t Do this or else.” He spoke about how God created the world. There are certain rules on how to operate in the world. The Ten Commandments are the instruction manual on how to live in this world that is meant to function in a certain way.

When I see the results of following the Ten Commandments or not (in my own life or in the news) I think that is proof right there. Both that God is the Creator, and that He inspired the Bible, which is the entire operating manual.

Hmm. Maybe the Ten Commandments are like the most important things highlighted at the beginning of the manual, or printed on the label of the actual item.

1) Always place ladder on level ground.
2) .....


39 posted on 09/01/2019 6:28:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: GingisK

Yep - great when other folks say those sites didn’t exist.


40 posted on 09/01/2019 6:39:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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