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NIV Quest Study Bible: How Do We Know the Bible Is True?
Bible Gateway Blog ^ | August 26, 2019 | Jonathan Petersen

Posted on 09/01/2019 3:49:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Conan the Librarian

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REad your Bible, not books that lie about the Bible!

USE SOME COMMON SENSE!


61 posted on 09/01/2019 10:50:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: AzNASCARfan

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>> “and when I went to look, they have the most recent NIV version FREE on Kindle Unlimited.” <<

Worth every penny you pay forit!

Get a KJV and black out every italicised word in it and you will have the exact received text in English!

The italics are where all the error in the Bible is located.


62 posted on 09/01/2019 10:56:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is your spirit a separate person from you?

Yes...We have a body, soul and spirit...The better question is: am I my body, my soul or my spirit...

When our body dies it is because our spirit has been returned to God and what's left is our conscious soul...

Gen 2:7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 

Num 16:22  And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation? 

Num 27:16  Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, 

1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 

1Th 5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 

We are not our body...Our body will die and rot...Our soul and spirit are eternal...However, our dead bodies will be resurrected and changed into celestial bodies...

The body, soul and spirit were connected until Christianity came along...For the Christian, Jesus performs an operation...It's called a spiritual circumcision...The body is cut away from the soul and spirit...

Col 2:11  In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 

As described here:
Heb 4:12  For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 

Our joints and marrow (body) are separated from our soul and spirit...That's how when our bodies go into the ground, we Christians, at the same time go to heaven...

The idea of a trinity is deeply pagan.

We humans, according to the bible exist in three persons...We have our body, our soul and our spirit...Soul and spirit contained in the body of flesh...So what does God say???

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Our likeness, image??? So if we are 3 persons in one body, then God must be three persons in one body...But wait....... and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Them??? Man...Them??? He didn't say mankind which is a popular word in the scriptures...He's calling a single man, them...

The Father and the Son are one. Yeshua said that many times. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.”
They are one and have one spirit, just as you are one with your spirit.

Well that makes at least two then, doesn't it??? The body and the spirit can't be just one...

Heb 1:1  God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 
Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds
Heb 1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God is a Spirit...You can't see a spirit...God has no body...Jesus has a body...And Jesus is the express image of the Father...That's two persons connected that makes one body...And then we have the Holy Spirit who Jesus sent to us while he sits in heaven ON THE FATHER'S THRONE at the Father's right side...

I believe in the Trinity...I'll stick with my belief...

63 posted on 09/01/2019 11:17:52 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
The Italics are where all the error in the Bible is located.

No, they are not...The italics are the result of the honesty of the KJV translators...The Italics represent where there were no or not totally credible manuscripts available to translate missing words in those spaces...The KJV translators used their best judgment to put words there and put them in Italics so the readers of the bible would know those words were not the inspired words of God found in the manuscripts...

Unfortunately all of the other translators did not bother to show us you where they found no manuscript evidence for their translations...

64 posted on 09/01/2019 11:25:30 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How Do We Know the Bible Is True?

Because there are over 50 OT prophecies of the birth, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus AND THEY ALL CAME TO PASS...What are the mathematical odds of that??? There were over 500 eyewitnesses to seeing the resurrected Jesus alone...

65 posted on 09/01/2019 11:29:49 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Total nonsense.

The italics in the NT in particular completely demolish the true meaning of many of Paul’s letters.

Honesty is the last thing to be found in those deliberate attacks on the word. They completely turn the letter to the Colossians on its head.

Every instance of italicised words in the NT is a deliberate demolition of truth.


66 posted on 09/02/2019 3:30:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dp0622

The 13th Commandment read:
Thou shalt not park in the Red Zone, that is for loading and unloading of passengers only.

The 14th Commandment read:
The 13th only applies to airport parking.

Sad to say that Liberals got ahold of the original 10, then added a thousand pages of privileged self interest legalism.


67 posted on 09/02/2019 7:31:10 AM PDT by TheNext (Leader of the Happy People of the World)
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To: editor-surveyor
Honesty is the last thing to be found in those deliberate attacks on the word. They completely turn the letter to the Colossians on its head.
Every instance of italicised words in the NT is a deliberate demolition of truth.

Interesting...I don't suppose you could supply some examples???

68 posted on 09/02/2019 8:26:35 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor

You cannot understand the Bible without understanding the context.

Blind faith is what the Pharisees practiced. That is why Jesus fought against them so hard and why they helped get him killed.

Jesus looked at context. Otherwise, he would have never talked to Sinners, he would have only talked to the Pharisees, Priests and Sanhedrin.

I think I am not the one who needs to read the Bible here.


69 posted on 09/02/2019 8:49:45 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: TheNext

lol


70 posted on 09/02/2019 8:52:41 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: Conan the Librarian

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No, the pharisees practiced adding to the word. That is not blind faith, it is man pretending to be Yehova.

The Pharisees were the worst sinners.Read Matthew 23!

Yes, you are the chief one that needs to read and trust only the word of Yehova.


71 posted on 09/02/2019 11:05:28 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Iscool

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In Colossians 2:17, the addition of the two words “is of” reverse the meaning of the admonition by Paul to trust only “the body of Christ,” i.e. the kehillah.

Capish?


72 posted on 09/02/2019 11:16:50 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You, of course mean Yahweh. Jehovah, or Yehowah wasn’t used as a name for God until the 16th Century AD.

I prefer to use the Original Hebrew, instead of the more modern Catholic spellings.


73 posted on 09/02/2019 11:21:03 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Iscool

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Correction, one word “is” does not belong there.


74 posted on 09/02/2019 11:21:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Conan the Librarian

The name of our God is Yehova, not yahweh which isn’t even grammatically a name at all in Hebrew.

The true vowel points that are preserved thousands of times in the scrolls and codices, and even on buildings in northern Europe prove the name.

You are grossly mistaken as to when the true name was provided.


75 posted on 09/02/2019 11:26:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I am not Catholic, so, I go with the original.


76 posted on 09/02/2019 11:41:28 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

For $2.99, you can get a kindle version of “The Lexical Interlinear Hebrew/Greek KJV of the Bible. It translates every English word in the Bible, to the Hebrew or Greek meaning (and also spelled out in the Hebrew or Greek alphabet, for those who know how to read the original). It combines the beauty of the kjv, with the accuracy of Strong’s translations, line by line, without footnotes. It’s awesome.
At Bible Hub (online), you can read the KJV, NASB, or HCSB (nearly identical to the NIV), with the Strong’s concordance, as well; or a parallel of those and some other translations, side by side, too, for free.


77 posted on 09/02/2019 11:42:14 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Flaming Conservative

I have been very happy with this version: https://portableapps.com/apps/education/bpbible_portable

You have to have the portable apps software to download and use it (it’s a great tool for keeping things together on a thumbdrive, like browsers, open office, and other things)

The bible has many different translations (mostly open text), important scholarly books and comentaries, Strong’s (tied into at least the KJV) and books like Josephus’ writings. It is a free tool.

When I don’t have access to my portable apps, I occasionally use this: https://www.biblegateway.com/

And the app “your version” bible. I use it in Sunday School as I can make the print bigger and highlight things.

My favorite though is my NIV/Greek/NASB New Testament. Having the original Greek text helps a lot on learning meaning.


78 posted on 09/02/2019 12:07:18 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: the_Watchman

“Both Jewish tradition ...”

Interesting. If Daniel was such a prophet then why was he not so designated.


79 posted on 09/02/2019 12:34:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: the_Watchman

“Both Jewish tradition ...”

Interesting. If Daniel was such a prophet then why was he not so designated.


80 posted on 09/02/2019 12:34:12 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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