Posted on 07/27/2019 4:52:02 PM PDT by pcottraux
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I like the old joke about a group of scientists telling God they can make a better man than He did. God says, “You’re on”. One of the scientists tells another, “Go get a bucket of dirt.” God says, “No, no. Make your own dirt.”
Thanks for posting. Definitely worth a read.
“proteins are required to make ribosome machines”
No.
Peptidyl transferase activity is in the ribosomal RNA.
Ribosomal proteins are not necessary.
Inanimate matter is weird, wild stuff in its own right.
Bookmark.
It's a really excellent summary of the development of cells and complex life forms.
I am not a religious person, but I do love great mystery stories, and the origin of life is certainly one of them.
Just in the last few years, laser light flash speeds and nano-cameras have reached a point where many basic molecular processes can be photographed in real time.
Unfortunately, it is much more difficult to use those photographic processes in organic chemistry because the process usually kills the cell or the molecule they are trying to study.
If they are made of proteins, where are those proteins constructed - inside ribosomes, or someplace else?
That is a key point that many, if not most, cannot quite get their minds around.
“Are you saying that ribosomes are not made out of proteins?”
No. Not sure why you would think that.
I’m saying ribosomal proteins are not the catalytic component of a ribosome.
rRNA carries out the peptidyl transferase activity and that the ribosomal proteins are not necessary for the reaction.
I’m pointing out there is not a chicken and egg problem.
I think the author was making the point that ribosomes are constructed of proteins.
Therefore, the obvious question - if ribosomes are the protein factory in our cells, where do (or did) the proteins that make up the ribosome organelle come from?
I know.
But he’s wrong in thinking the proteins in ribosomes make the proteins.
Ribosomes are mainly RNA.
The RNA makes the protein.
RNA catalyzes the reaction that joins the amino acids.
All the proteins of a bacterial ribosome can be carefully removed and the ribosome still catalyzes the reaction.
Interesting...
But, not an obvious fact that a science writer and his non-scientist readers should be expected to know about.
Thanks for reading!
Heh heh, good one. ;)
Stephen Meyer is cited and interviewed in a lot of the books I’ve read, and I’ve listened to him on podcasts and interviews. But I don’t have any actual books he’s written (yet), but I will add that one to my reading list. I’ve heard of it.
Just when I thought I had the basics of science figured out, I looked into quantum mechanics...
Thank you! I agree that abiogenesis is interesting to look into, and even when we have natural explanations, it's still hard for our minds to comprehend just how all these processes came together in such perfection.
And like I said, the more we discovery, the more questions pop up.
Just in the last few years, laser light flash speeds and nano-cameras have reached a point where many basic molecular processes can be photographed in real time.
Case in point. For the life of me, there's some photographs I can't imagine how we obtain. (Remember the "Miracle of Life" video from high school reproduction class?)
Now compare that to what we didn't know for the whole of human history. The speed at which we're unraveling once-unknowable mysteries of the universe is awe-inspiring.
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