Posted on 07/26/2019 3:04:17 AM PDT by Cronos
"This doctrine is not really found in the book of Revelation. If you read the book of Revelation, you won't find any mention of the rapture there," said William Craig, ResearchProfessor of Philosophy at Talbot School of Theology at Houston Baptist University. .. Instead, Craig says, the idea of the rapture comes from a "misinterpretation of 1 and 2 Thessalonians where Paul is describing the coming of the Lord and resurrection of the dead, which will occur at His coming."
"If you compare what Paul says there to what Jesus says about the End Times, Paul uses the same vocabulary, the same phraseology. I think it's very plausible that Paul is talking about the same event that Jesus predicted, namely the visible coming of the Son of Man at the end of human history to usher in his kingdom,but proponents of the rapture view, say that Paul is not at all talking about the second coming of the Christ there. What he's really talking about is this invisible preliminary secret return of Christ to snatch believers out of the world before the great tribulation occurs. I think there's no textual warrant for that at all."
According to Craig, the rapture became a popular theory about the End Times due to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible, which was published in the early 20th century and promulgated John Darby's mid-18th century's views on the rapture.
"A good many Bible-believing Christians absorbed this view as their mother's milk as it were and have never thought to question its Biblical credentials,"
"It is astonishing, American evangelism is very widely misled, that it has departed from the historic Christian position about the second coming of Christ. That's really rather sobering, because if we're wrong about this, what other things might we have misinterpreted?"
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God uses dreams throughout the Bible, in both Old and New Testaments. Given that St. John "is" an apostle, and Muhammad is an apostate, I would consider John's dreams VERY relevant.
The Council of Nicea did not decide which books were inspired ... God did.
Everything you said ... is demonstrably false.
Revelation was not a dream but rather a vision. There is a difference. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is the one true God of the universe and any communication for Him whether dream or vision is highly significant. The demon inspired hallucinations of mohammed not so much. Consider the source
Thank you!
(And here I just went to “raptureready” and ordered my rapture tuxedo).
Bkmrk.
Yes, Jesus would in fact be beating His bride.
all true points. However most of the theology of the rapture and millennium is found in the OT prophets not Revelation.
I started a similar reply a few times ... and kept deleting and repeating ... thanks ... you have spoken the very truth very well here. They were both once great seminaries ... long ago.
The Council of Nicaea didn't add any books to the bible and it didn't create a list of books. It was called to come to a consensus on the divine nature of Jesus.
Isn't that what is happening to Christians right now in the middle east. Jesus' letter to the church of Smyrna (one of two of the churches he had nothing bad to say about in his letters) tell them that some will be martyred. Jesus tells his church "In the world you will have tribulation..."
Yes, but theology does teach a Christian philosophy.
Interestingly the book of Revelation cites the OT more than any other NT book. The vast majority of the verses, if not a direct quote, are a clear reference to OT scripture. You don't have to subscribe to G.K. Beale's eschatology to appreciate in his commentary on Revelation the exhaustive study of OT references in the book of Revelation. If you are not solid in your study of the OT you cannot come close to exegeting Revelation.
The gospel comes from Jesus not Paul, we would have the gospel with out even one letter from Paul.
One can quite easily not be a Preterist and also not believe in Dispensationalism.
Nicea wasn’t about the canon of scripture. It was about the deity of Christ. The canon was done long before 325.
the canon was complete the day John finished the book of Revelation. It took the church and christians, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, time to come to recognize the parameters of the canon.
To all;
Blah blah blah. The real question is
how many people have you do you intend to/desire to/are likely to share the good news of Salvation by Grace ( there is no other) today.
If the answer is Zero, then you likely have a greater need than quibbling about “eschatology”.
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