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No, Christians Should Not Believe in 'Left Behind's' Rapture Theology, Says Prominent Baptist
Christian post ^ | 26 June 2019 | Morgan Lee

Posted on 07/26/2019 3:04:17 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: Ikeon
"The dreams of St. John are no more relevant to the theology of Jesus than the dreams of Muhammad are relevant to theology."

God uses dreams throughout the Bible, in both Old and New Testaments. Given that St. John "is" an apostle, and Muhammad is an apostate, I would consider John's dreams VERY relevant.

41 posted on 07/26/2019 6:13:00 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Bookshelf
The Council of Nicea never should have accepted Revelation as a book of the Bible.

The Council of Nicea did not decide which books were inspired ... God did.

42 posted on 07/26/2019 6:14:02 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Everything you said ... is demonstrably false.


43 posted on 07/26/2019 6:16:24 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Wonder Warthog

Revelation was not a dream but rather a vision. There is a difference. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is the one true God of the universe and any communication for Him whether dream or vision is highly significant. The demon inspired hallucinations of mohammed not so much. Consider the source


44 posted on 07/26/2019 6:16:34 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: firebrand

Thank you!

(And here I just went to “raptureready” and ordered my rapture tuxedo).


45 posted on 07/26/2019 6:17:36 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Cronos

Bkmrk.


46 posted on 07/26/2019 6:17:37 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Safrguns
Therefore, if there is no pre-tribulation rapture, then it can logically be concluded that God will pour out His wrath upon His own body.

Yes, Jesus would in fact be beating His bride.

47 posted on 07/26/2019 6:18:01 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: 21twelve

all true points. However most of the theology of the rapture and millennium is found in the OT prophets not Revelation.


48 posted on 07/26/2019 6:18:34 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: xenia
secret rapture

Probably the worst kept secret in history. Movies, tv shows, radio preachers, untold number of books, constant internet wars, and a lot of street corner preaching. But you have a right to your opinion.
49 posted on 07/26/2019 6:19:42 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Jmouse007
Unfortunately, BIOLA, and Talbot, like many other formerly biblically sound educational institutions have both fallen from their former lofty biblical and theological foundations.

I started a similar reply a few times ... and kept deleting and repeating ... thanks ... you have spoken the very truth very well here. They were both once great seminaries ... long ago.

50 posted on 07/26/2019 6:21:45 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Bookshelf
The Council of Nicea never should have accepted Revelation as a book of the Bible.

The Council of Nicaea didn't add any books to the bible and it didn't create a list of books. It was called to come to a consensus on the divine nature of Jesus.

51 posted on 07/26/2019 6:28:24 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Safrguns
"Therefore, if there is no pre-tribulation rapture, then it can logically be concluded that God will pour out His wrath upon His own body."

Isn't that what is happening to Christians right now in the middle east. Jesus' letter to the church of Smyrna (one of two of the churches he had nothing bad to say about in his letters) tell them that some will be martyred. Jesus tells his church "In the world you will have tribulation..."

52 posted on 07/26/2019 6:44:43 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Jmouse007
“Philosophy” is not theology."

Yes, but theology does teach a Christian philosophy.

53 posted on 07/26/2019 6:46:53 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Cronos
What is this “secret” Return. I'm a pre-millienist, and I've never heard it was “secret”
54 posted on 07/26/2019 6:49:49 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: Mom MD
"However most of the theology of the rapture and millennium is found in the OT prophets not Revelation."

Interestingly the book of Revelation cites the OT more than any other NT book. The vast majority of the verses, if not a direct quote, are a clear reference to OT scripture. You don't have to subscribe to G.K. Beale's eschatology to appreciate in his commentary on Revelation the exhaustive study of OT references in the book of Revelation. If you are not solid in your study of the OT you cannot come close to exegeting Revelation.

55 posted on 07/26/2019 6:53:08 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: wastoute

The gospel comes from Jesus not Paul, we would have the gospel with out even one letter from Paul.


56 posted on 07/26/2019 7:00:25 AM PDT by ravenwolf (I)
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To: Mom MD

One can quite easily not be a Preterist and also not believe in Dispensationalism.


57 posted on 07/26/2019 7:11:28 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Bookshelf

Nicea wasn’t about the canon of scripture. It was about the deity of Christ. The canon was done long before 325.


58 posted on 07/26/2019 7:12:29 AM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk
"The canon was done long before 325"

the canon was complete the day John finished the book of Revelation. It took the church and christians, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, time to come to recognize the parameters of the canon.

59 posted on 07/26/2019 7:15:23 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Cronos

To all;

Blah blah blah. The real question is
how many people have you do you intend to/desire to/are likely to share the good news of Salvation by Grace ( there is no other) today.

If the answer is Zero, then you likely have a greater need than quibbling about “eschatology”.


60 posted on 07/26/2019 7:18:08 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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