12 quotes from St. Peter Damian(1000 years ago, on homosexuality amongst the clergy)

Bettnet ^ | February 24th, 2006 | Domenico Bettinelli

[Mrs. Don-o]

The following 12 quotes come from the writings of St. Peter Damian, a great ascetic and monk who was especially troubled by the clergy and religious of his time who failed in their duties, especially celibacy.

Think of them as a year of monthly intentions for the US bishops to meditate upon in reparation for the Scandal:

• “Tell us, you unmanly and effeminate man, what do you seek in another male that you do not find in yourself?”

• “For God’s sake, why do you damnable sodomites pursue the heights of ecclesiastical dignity with such fiery ambition?”

• “By what right or by what law can one bind or loose the other when he is constrained by the bonds of evil deeds common to them both?”

• “Who can expect the flock to prosper when its shepherd has sunk so deep into the bowels of the devil?

• “Who, by his lust, will consign a son whom he spiritually begotten for God to slavery under the iron law of Satanic tyranny?”

• “This utterly diseased queen of Sodom renders him who obeys the laws of her tyranny infamous to men and odious to God.”

• “Without fail, [the vice of sodomy] brings death to the body and destruction to the soul. It pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the mind, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, and gives entrance to the devil, the stimulator of lust.”

• ”[The vice of sodomy] leads to error, totally removes truth from the deluded mind . . . It opens up Hell and closes the gates of Paradise.”

• ”[The vice of sodomy] is this vice that violates temperance, slays modesty, strangles chastity, and slaughters virginity.”

• [The vice of sodomy] defiles all things, sullies all things, pollutes all things.”

• “Who will make a mistress of a cleric, or a woman of a man?”

• “It is not mere stumblers, but the wicked who should despair; it is not the magnitude of one’s crime, but contempt of God that dashes one’s hopes.”

[Elsie]

I am not obeying Christ if I leave the Church,

Do you hear Christ's voice??

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her.

Revelation 18:4

[Elsie]

It was St. Paul who said we must build up the Church,

He also said:

1 Corinthians 5:1-2

1 It is actually reported that there is sexual sin among you. I’m told that a man is sleeping with his father’s wife. Even people who don’t know God don’t let that kind of sin continue. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you be very sad instead? Shouldn’t you have thrown out of your church the man doing this?

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Doctor: Sir; you have a cancer that atrophies your arm muscle. We'll have to...

Patient: Hold on there Doc! Can't I just go to the gym and build up my muscles??

[Elsie]

Sure...as long as you agree that the "church" is not just the Roman Catholic church but...

I have a vague, nagging feeling that this would NEVER happen.

But then; even St. Paul got struck blind; so...

[Elsie]

I had a 2 year old that was quite demanding; too.

Wanna know how that turned out? ;^)

[Mom MD]

I see no promise of Christ to preserve the Roman sect. In fact He exhorts His people to come out of corrupt systems lest they share in their punishment.

[Mom MD]

Do you give money time or talent to your parish or the Roman church? Do you attend services in the Roman church? Then I hate to break it to you but you support them. If you give them money and the support of your attendance you are supporting the entire corrupt system. I had the same ongoing arguments with my brother in the ELCA when they went off the rails

Don’t tell me your local congregation is different. Monies collected at the local level go to the hierarchy in some fashion. Not that the Vatican with all its wealth and splendor needs your money but that’s another topic. Time to look hard in the mirror. If you support the Roman Church you support ALL of it.

[Mom MD]

The Body of Christ exists outside the Roman Church. In fact the majority of the Body resides outside the Roman sect

[Mom MD]

I prefer to think of what you call the faithful as blindfolded sheep. You continue to support an apostate and corrupt hierarchy because they have convinced you they are they only repository of truth and salvation despite their obvious condition. None are so blind as those who will not see.

[Mom MD]

Scriptural support for that blasphemous claim? Exactly none

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I believe the source was alcohol.

[amihow]

Obviously you are missing some important parts of Scriptur.
.

[Mom MD]

Please enlighten me. I am pretty familiar with scripture but would love to know what you think I am missing.

[Mom MD]

I wish it were that simple then it could be laughed off. No these lies come straight from the pit of hell meant to try to deceive the elect and snatch the Truth away before it can take root

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Obviously you are missing some important parts of Scriptur.

There is nothing in Scripture that gives poor Mary the title of Queen of anything.

[amihow]

Oh. I forgot the impovrished reformers gave up Tradition and became the solo interpreters of Scripture some 1,500 years after Christ when they were sooo much smarter than those who went before.

I have learned that discussions with Catholic bashers is a waste of time.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

So if I understand your argument, your view of Mary as The Queen of Heaven has no Scriptural support, but is based on pagan claims through the millennia?

OK then.

But it contradicts Scripture, so is false.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Here's a 3 minute video that shows how tradition brought us this belief that Mary is the Queen of Heaven.

Bishops shown passing down sacred tradition

[Elsie]

Obviously you are missing some important parts of Scriptur.

Dang!

Do not keep ME in the dark!

[Elsie]

I have learned that discussions with Catholic bashers is a waste of time.

You haven't learned it well enough; for you're still here; slogging away.

[Elsie]

Here's a 3 minute video that shows how tradition brought us this belief that Mary is the Queen of Heaven.

You will need a LOT more than 3 minutes to explain away all of THESE 'titles'!!!

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Litanies of Our Lady of Mount Carmel

 

BEFORE EACH OF THE FOLLOWING SALUTATIONS SAY:
"Our Lady of Mount Carmel,"
AND AFTERWARDS: "Pray for us Sinners."

Queen of Heaven,
Victorious over Satan,
Most Obedient Daughter,
Most Pure Virgin,
Devoted Spouse,
Mother Most Tender,
Model of Perfect Virtue,
Sure Anchor of Hope,
Refuge in Sorrow,
Dispensatrix of the Gifts of God,
Bastion Against Our Enemies,
Our Aid in Danger,
The Way Leading to Jesus,
Our Light in Darkness,
Our Consolation at the Hour of Death,
Advocate of the Most Abandoned Sinners,
For the Hardened in Vice,
For Those who Offend Thy Divine Son,
For Those Who Neglect to Pray,
For Those Who are in Agony,
For Those Who Defer Their Conversion,
For Those Suffering in Purgatory,
For Those Who Do Not Know Thee.

 

Let Us Pray.

  

Our Lady of Mount Carmel, glorious Queen of Angels, channel of God's tenderest mercy to man,
refuge and advocate of sinners, with confidence I prostrate myself before thee, beseeching thee to obtain for me [Mention request silently].

In return I solemnly promise to have recourse to thee in all my trials, sufferings and temptations,

and I shall do all in my power to induce others to love and reverence thee and to invoke thee in all their needs.

I thank thee for the numberless blessings which I have received from thy mercy and powerful intercession.

Continue to be my shield in danger, my guide in life, and my consolation at the hour of death.

 

Amen.