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12 quotes from St. Peter Damian(1000 years ago, on homosexuality amongst the clergy)
Bettnet ^ | February 24th, 2006 | Domenico Bettinelli

Posted on 02/21/2019 8:15:32 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

The following 12 quotes come from the writings of St. Peter Damian, a great ascetic and monk who was especially troubled by the clergy and religious of his time who failed in their duties, especially celibacy.

Think of them as a year of monthly intentions for the US bishops to meditate upon in reparation for the Scandal:



TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; lgbt; vice
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I am not obeying Christ if I leave the Church,

Do you hear Christ's voice??


And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her.

Revelation 18:4

61 posted on 02/23/2019 5:08:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It was St. Paul who said we must build up the Church,

He also said:

1 Corinthians 5:1-2

1 It is actually reported that there is sexual sin among you. I’m told that a man is sleeping with his father’s wife. Even people who don’t know God don’t let that kind of sin continue. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you be very sad instead? Shouldn’t you have thrown out of your church the man doing this?


Doctor: Sir; you have a cancer that atrophies your arm muscle. We'll have to...

Patient: Hold on there Doc! Can't I just go to the gym and build up my muscles??

62 posted on 02/23/2019 5:12:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
Sure...as long as you agree that the "church" is not just the Roman Catholic church but...

I have a vague, nagging feeling that this would NEVER happen.

But then; even St. Paul got struck blind; so...

63 posted on 02/23/2019 5:14:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: amihow

I had a 2 year old that was quite demanding; too.

Wanna know how that turned out? ;^)


64 posted on 02/23/2019 5:15:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: amihow

I see no promise of Christ to preserve the Roman sect. In fact He exhorts His people to come out of corrupt systems lest they share in their punishment.


65 posted on 02/23/2019 5:23:02 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Do you give money time or talent to your parish or the Roman church? Do you attend services in the Roman church? Then I hate to break it to you but you support them. If you give them money and the support of your attendance you are supporting the entire corrupt system. I had the same ongoing arguments with my brother in the ELCA when they went off the rails

Don’t tell me your local congregation is different. Monies collected at the local level go to the hierarchy in some fashion. Not that the Vatican with all its wealth and splendor needs your money but that’s another topic. Time to look hard in the mirror. If you support the Roman Church you support ALL of it.


66 posted on 02/23/2019 5:36:27 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Body of Christ exists outside the Roman Church. In fact the majority of the Body resides outside the Roman sect


67 posted on 02/23/2019 5:37:59 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I prefer to think of what you call the faithful as blindfolded sheep. You continue to support an apostate and corrupt hierarchy because they have convinced you they are they only repository of truth and salvation despite their obvious condition. None are so blind as those who will not see.


68 posted on 02/23/2019 5:41:11 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: amihow

Scriptural support for that blasphemous claim? Exactly none


69 posted on 02/23/2019 5:44:26 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

I believe the source was alcohol.


70 posted on 02/23/2019 6:09:50 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mom MD

Obviously you are missing some important parts of Scriptur.
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71 posted on 02/23/2019 6:46:19 AM PST by amihow
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To: amihow

Please enlighten me. I am pretty familiar with scripture but would love to know what you think I am missing.


72 posted on 02/23/2019 8:27:00 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I wish it were that simple then it could be laughed off. No these lies come straight from the pit of hell meant to try to deceive the elect and snatch the Truth away before it can take root


73 posted on 02/23/2019 8:29:13 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: amihow

“Obviously you are missing some important parts of Scriptur.

There is nothing in Scripture that gives poor Mary the title of Queen of anything.


74 posted on 02/23/2019 9:40:59 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Oh. I forgot the impovrished reformers gave up Tradition and became the solo interpreters of Scripture some 1,500 years after Christ when they were sooo much smarter than those who went before.

I have learned that discussions with Catholic bashers is a waste of time.


75 posted on 02/23/2019 10:31:22 AM PST by amihow
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To: amihow

So if I understand your argument, your view of Mary as The Queen of Heaven has no Scriptural support, but is based on pagan claims through the millennia?

OK then.

But it contradicts Scripture, so is false.


76 posted on 02/23/2019 10:46:52 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: amihow
Here's a 3 minute video that shows how tradition brought us this belief that Mary is the Queen of Heaven.

Bishops shown passing down sacred tradition

77 posted on 02/23/2019 11:56:20 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: amihow
Obviously you are missing some important parts of Scriptur.

Dang!

Do not keep ME in the dark!

78 posted on 02/23/2019 5:42:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: amihow
I have learned that discussions with Catholic bashers is a waste of time.

You haven't learned it well enough; for you're still here; slogging away.

79 posted on 02/23/2019 5:44:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Here's a 3 minute video that shows how tradition brought us this belief that Mary is the Queen of Heaven.

You will need a LOT more than 3 minutes to explain away all of THESE 'titles'!!!


 

Litanies of Our Lady of Mount Carmel

 

BEFORE EACH OF THE FOLLOWING SALUTATIONS SAY:
"Our Lady of Mount Carmel,"
AND AFTERWARDS: "Pray for us Sinners."

Queen of Heaven,
Victorious over Satan,
Most Obedient Daughter,
Most Pure Virgin,
Devoted Spouse,
Mother Most Tender,
Model of Perfect Virtue,
Sure Anchor of Hope,
Refuge in Sorrow,
Dispensatrix of the Gifts of God,
Bastion Against Our Enemies,
Our Aid in Danger,
The Way Leading to Jesus,
Our Light in Darkness,
Our Consolation at the Hour of Death,
Advocate of the Most Abandoned Sinners,
For the Hardened in Vice,
For Those who Offend Thy Divine Son,
For Those Who Neglect to Pray,
For Those Who are in Agony,
For Those Who Defer Their Conversion,
For Those Suffering in Purgatory,
For Those Who Do Not Know Thee.
 
Let Us Pray.

  

Our Lady of Mount Carmel, glorious Queen of Angels, channel of God's tenderest mercy to man,
refuge and advocate of sinners, with confidence I prostrate myself before thee, beseeching thee to obtain for me [Mention request silently].
In return I solemnly promise to have recourse to thee in all my trials, sufferings and temptations,
and I shall do all in my power to induce others to love and reverence thee and to invoke thee in all their needs.
I thank thee for the numberless blessings which I have received from thy mercy and powerful intercession.
Continue to be my shield in danger, my guide in life, and my consolation at the hour of death.
 
Amen.
 

80 posted on 02/23/2019 5:46:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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