Posted on 02/16/2019 3:32:00 PM PST by pcottraux
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Same scriptures, except not in bold? Lol.
St. Thomas: “My Lord and my God”!
Not followed by chastising, either.
Yea, I know how to bold it but you have to do all those breaks and stuff. The Word Doc has formatting with bold, but FR doesn’t act kindly toward it.
Two or more witness, Amen?
Jesus holds the keys to both death & hades.
He is God, Lord, Creator of all.
To deny these truths is to deny God.
John 1:1-14
John 10:30
C. S. Lewis handled it better
Yes. Next question.
CC
Than who?
Than you
If you study the Potter and Clay Sermons, we can see that God makes a "vessel" and puts "something" in the vessel. Adam was made from the dust of the earth and God blew His breath into the clay vessel He had just formed making it a human being. When we die, our body goes back to the dust, but who we really are, our person hood, needs a new body. We are given a new body, a glorified body, a body that won't get sick, won't die, but most importantly can stand before God and not burn up.
Scripture says that God is Spirit. It says that God is Love. As people. We cannot imagine trying to interact with spirit, so God takes on a form we can understand to interact with His people. God has appeared as and Angel (Angel with a capital "A" is a theophany appearing before Jesus was born in the flesh), a burning bush, Melchizedek, pillar of smoke, pillar of fire, and other forms to interact with His people.
Jesus was fully God and fully man. The Holy Spirit formed a child in Mary's womb so a child could be born, but installed the Spirit of God in the child. A man would be required to die on the cross to pay for the sins of men. Sheep and goats couldn't take sins away, but just delayed the punishment. Anyway you look at it, however, the man called Jesus was God in the flesh.
Genesis says we were made in the image of God. We have mind ( soul), spirit, and body. Our body is temporary, but it is the strongest outward identity we have. Our soul ( mind) is the force that tells us to eat when we get hungry and defend ourselves when we are threatened. Our spirit died in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve reproduced beings that had dead spirits, so we all are born dead to God. When we accept Christ, Our spirit is resurrected and sits in the heavenlies with the Body of Christ.
Eph 2:6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
We are ,right now, in heaven with Jesus if we are saved. The spirit we have here is Holy Spirit. We will receive a new body when we need one, and the only thing left is the soul. When we are saved, to be sanctified, we must kill our carnality of the soul, and place it under the control of the Holy Spirit. This is the war Paul spoke of when he desired to do good but did bad. Jesus was a man, formed by a woman and the Holy Spirit so she could emit flesh with God inside. Jesus was in the beginning, God, But being in a glorified body, He was with God, but He was definitely God. Then scripture says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
When we die, we will leave this body for a new body, our spirit is already with God, and our soul will be saved into a new creature. When Jesus came out of the tomb, Mary thought Jesus was a gardener. She didn't recognize Him. He kept His nail scars to glorify Himself, but our new bodies will be perfect. 2 of His disciples followed with Him for 7 miles and didn't know Him until they say His nail scars when breaking bread. When we see Him face to face, we will be as He is. Having a body is convenient to interact with, but who we really are is in our spirit. Jesus said I and the Father are One. And if you've seen me, you've seen the Father to tell us they are the same. When Jesus was talking to the Father, he was actually talking to His Spirit self. Jesus was just the form that men could see and interact with. Which is BTW, what God is seeking from us. He wants to be our God and for us to be His people. Jesus IS God. There is no other. But what about the Father? Jesus is the Father. But, but, the Holy Spirit? The Spirit is in Jesus and us. God is Spirit.
John 20:17 -
“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”
This is one question I try to avoid, altouugh when ask I say Jesus was God in the flesh or the son of God.
However I assume the Pentecostals do believe that Mary was the mother of God.
C.S. Lewis made the point: A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg or else He would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.
You believe in God; believe also in Me for the Father and I are one; for I am in Him and He is in Me. John 14
You believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto myself; that where I am there you may be also.
Well said.
QED.
I know the Catholics like to elevate Mary, but she is not the mother of her Creator, the self-existent God. Jesus was both God and man. Mary was the mother of the man Jesus. God does not report up to His “mother”. Seems pretty blasphemous to assign an attribute like that to the Creator of everything.
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