Philippine President Duterte says Christian belief in Trinity is ‘silly’

Rappler ^ | 12/29/2018 | Mara Cepeda

[SeekAndFind]

MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte mocked the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity, calling it “silly” on Saturday, December 29.

In a speech in Kidapawan City, Cotabato, the President attacked the doctrine of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit as he once again went into a tirade against priests and the Catholic Church.

"You’re already praying at one God, then you’re going to pray at these cursed saints. There’s only one God. There’s only one God, period. You cannot divide God into 3, that’s silly,” said the President.

Before attacking the Holy Trinity doctrine, Duterte said Jesus Christ is “unimpressive” because he had allowed himself to be nailed on the cross.

"Your God was nailed on the cross. How unimpressive. I’m God and you will crucify me? I’d tell them, ‘Lightning, finish all of them. Burn all the non-believers.'"

The passion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is among the central doctrines of Christian faith, with Christians believing that Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world from sin.

The President likewise belittled the belief in saints, whom he previously called as “fools” and “drunkards.”

"Saint Catalina, Saint Anne, Saint Thomas, Saint Sebastian, Saint Rodrigo, they’re nothing… I don’t know them. Look, those documents were written – if at all – 3,000 years ago. Why would they care about our lives now?"

"Who wrote about them? Who’s Saint Thomas? We don’t know who they are. That might even be a name for a cow or camel then"

The President – under whose term a string of priests have been murdered – had previously stirred controversy for calling God “stupid."

On December 6, Duterte even joked that bishops should be “killed” for supposedly doing nothing but criticizing his administration, which is waging a bloody war against drugs that has killed thousands.

[editor-surveyor]

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Trinitarian belief is the pagan cult.

It is nowhere to be found in the scriptures.
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[Songcraft]

Reply to post #233
"(I wasn't there.) Were you at Fatima? You wanna talk GOOFY??"

No, I wasn't there, either.   Were you there Brother Elsie?   (You seem to talk about it a lot.)

Let me explain something again to you, Elsie, which many of your posts seem to indicate that you don't quite understand yet.   "Fatima" involved a private revelation, and Catholics are not obligated to believe in ANY private revelations (including the so-called "Marian" ones, or those involving any other saints), any more than YOU are obligated to, Elsie, and, the truth is, many Catholics don't.   (Again, here's one of many online articles that explain that, if you really have any interest in learning the truth, rather than just spouting a bunch of repetitive, phony, Church-bashing nonsense.)

       "Are Catholics obliged to believe in Marian apparitions?" - Karl Keating

From time to time, the Church just examines the widespread claims of certain people, who claimed to have received private revelations, just to see if anything they say conflicts with any of the teachings of the Church or not.   If there is no such conflict, the Church ONLY goes so far to say that a person is permitted to contemplate those private revelations in their private devotions to God, if they find them helpful, but the Church makes absolutely no claims whatsoever about their veracity, and they in no way take the place of the general, "public" revelations which are fully accepted by the Church, such as the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Now, (speaking of "goofy"), your side of the spectrum also has more than its fair share of goofy too!        :-)

☺    Goofy Televangelist Links    ☺

"Crazy Televangelists"

"Preacher gone wild"

[WARNING:   Some viewers may find some of the clips in
this youtube video to be excessively graphic and offensive!]
"The Top 60 Craziest Christian TV Preachers (Televangelists)"


(Now, this guy's really EXTRA special!!!) Special Guy

"Benny Hinn: Let the Bodies Hit the Floor"

"Robert Tilton Raises The Dead!!"

Enjoy!

(Now I gotta run, so, toodaloo!)

[editor-surveyor]

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“His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.”

Peter didn't write the word "other," it was added long after he died.

[Mark17]

(SPECIAL NOTE to Mark17 in post #237: Those fire-retardant versions are reserved for Church bashers, as they are certainly gonna need 'em!) :-)

I went to catholic grade school and high school. In grade school, we wore the scapula. I hated it, cuz it was wool, and very uncomfortable against the skin, but the priests told us it would keep us out of Hell. By the time we got to high school, none of us wore it anymore, though I don’t remember why. Maybe we didn’t care if it kept us out of Hell. I just don’t remember.
Now, I have no need of such things, but I am comfortable with that. 😁😇🤣😤😂🤗😆👍🇵🇭

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“λοιπαϚ* γραφαϚ* προϚ* την* ιδιαν* αυτων* απωλειαν* ”

“The rest of Scriptures (plural)”

The Holy Spirit inspired those exact words through Peter.

[Elsie]

It’s been 4 days. I hope you got your work all done.

[Elsie]

The Church resolved that question as she resolves all such questions, through prayerful consideration by the Church leaders (aka, the "Magisterium"), under the absolutely necessary guidance and powerful protection of the Holy Spirit, as promised by Jesus Christ.

These the same guys that voted in YOUR current pope?

[Elsie]

... Catholics are not at all obligated to believe in private revelations...

FATIMA was PRIVATE???

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Why DO so many Catholics glomm onto such apparitional sightings??

And BELIEVE them wholehearthedly?

Could it be that the church ALLOWS them to do so?

[Elsie]

 

For a low; LOW! price of ONLY $11.95...

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.catholiccompany.com/brown-scapular-brown-cord-18-inch-i104714/?sku=2026726&utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&aid=4280&product_id=2026726&creative=11070181829&device=c&matchtype=e

 

 

SOMEone is sure SCAMMING a HELL of a lot of CATHOLICS!!

 

 

[Elsie]

Trinitarian belief is the pagan cult.

Binitarian belief is Jewish.

It is found in the Bible:

Let US create man in OUR image.

[Elsie]

Now, (speaking of "goofy"), your side of the spectrum also has more than its fair share of goofy too! :-)

Guess where we GOT it from!

http://listverse.com/2007/09/12/top-10-bizarre-aspects-of-catholicism/

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BTW; nice try at LOOK over THERE!

[Elsie]

Do you REALLY think it helps the cause of the One TRUE church to point out goofiness in the zillions of Untrue churches?

[editor-surveyor]

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Phariseeism is Jewish, and just as manmade as “christianity.”

“Elohim” is plural, but not specific.

The real point is that the Trinity is an ancient pagan scheme, and is not scriptural.

[editor-surveyor]

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Peter did not write the word “other.”

It was added to some MS, but not all.

It defies the apostles reverence for the Tanakh.

[WVNan]

Well some “authority” pronounces that the idea of Trinity is silly. So I guess we must give up the silly idea that H2O can be steam/ice/fog, all performing different functions. (s)

[Elsie]

Well some “authority” pronounces that the idea of Trinity is silly.

But; suppose it IS silly! and not true at all.

Can Elohim still manage to SAVE us if Jesus is NOT GOD?

Can the Holy Spirit REALLY be some kind of Force and not GOD??

John 20:28-29 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

²⁸ Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

²⁹ Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have come to believe.”

 

Why did Jesus NOT 'correct' Thomas; but let him think 'my GOD.'?

 

 

 

What did Jesus do to make the Parisees say, "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." ?            John 10:33 

 

 

[Elsie]

ES; to which group do YOU belong?

 

In terms of number of adherents, nontrinitarian denominations comprise a minority of modern Christianity. The largest nontrinitarian Christian denominations are...

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ("Mormons"),

Oneness Pentecostals,

Jehovah's Witnesses,

La Luz del Mundo and the

Iglesia ni Cristo, though there are a number of other smaller groups, including

Christadelphians,

Christian Scientists,

Dawn Bible Students,

Living Church of God,

Assemblies of Yahweh,

Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ,

Members Church of God International,

Unitarian Universalist Christians,

The Way International,

The Church of God International, and the

United Church of God.^[6]

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism

 

 

 

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Big claim you are making, but you’ve not proved it. Nor can you.

It’s just a false assertion and leaves a corrupted NT.

But then, you’ve self-identified as a follower of a cultic, fake rabbi, so I wouldn’t believe you anyway.

Your choice, but I believe the NT is accurate and inspired by the Holy Spirit.