Every President Recited The Apostles’ Creed Except Trump, And People Definitely Noticed

Huffington Post ^ | 12/6/2018 | Ed Mazza

[I got the rope]

People on Twitter are calling out President Donald Trump for failing to recite the Apostles’ Creed at the funeral for former President George H. W. Bush on Wednesday.

Footage from the event shows much of the church, including the former presidents seated with Trump, standing to recite the profession of faith.

[ConservativeMind]

It is not phrased in a book of the Bible.

[piytar]

You are correct.

[CharlesWayneCT]

On the other hand, Obama and Michelle were reading if from a book.

I saw someone call Trump a “Christian evangelical”. He’s never been one of those.

[kaehurowing]

Same here. You can point to the beginning of the rot as when they got rid of the Book of Common Prayer, that was back in the Seventies. Among other things they discarded the requirements that the church could not teach or require anything contrary to Scripture. The rest is history.

[Calm_Cool_and_Elected]

It is my understanding that in this context catholic = universal.

[Calm_Cool_and_Elected]

Nope, at least some Protestants say it

[nonsporting]

That's your interpretation. Jesus did not use the word "model" to describe the prayer that he taught.

"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..." (Matthew 6:9)

Jesus didn't say "pray this". He said "after this manner ... pray". Big difference. Not the same.

Jesus was modeling how to pray and thus avoid the very thing he was saying not to do: empty repetition.

[Scooter100]

In the creed that’s catholic with a small c, as in all-embracing
Not the Catholic Church
Your catechist didn’t teach you well

My 1962 Roman Catholic DAILY MISSAL (p.21) says, ",the holy Catholic Church,".

In the other column, the latin translation says: ",sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam,"

By the way, there are so many different versions of the "Creed", I'd hate to make judgments too quickly. Some say "descended into hell", some say "crucified dead and buried".

Does anyone have the "church" program that they are reading from in the photo? We're whistling into the wind without it.

[al_c]

It is not phrased in a book of the Bible.

But what part of the creed isn't biblical?

[editor-surveyor]

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Most mentions of “churches” in the NT are really specific congregations. (The 7 ‘churches’ very obviously so)

[BamaBelle]

Grew up Methodist saying it, then got a little wiser and quit saying it. Don’t consider myself Methodist anymore...just Christian.

[editor-surveyor]

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True!

The “Trinity” is from the imagination of pagan men.

[editor-surveyor]

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No part of any creed is Biblical.
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[Fedora]

Hmmm so how many of the Presidents reciting the Apostle’s Creed believed what they were saying?

[lightman]

The so-called Apostles’ Creed (AC) is actually a pre-schism Catholic and Orthodox liturgical formula.

It appears in the fourth writings of Hippolytus of Rome (Commemorated by Orthodox and Catholics alike) as part of the Baptismal service.

The candidate was asked, in succession, “Do you believe in God the Father?....Do you believe in God the Son...Do you believe in God the Holy Spirit” and answered each question with the phrases, which, when strung together, form this Creed.

The AC is never used in the Roman Eucharitic rite.

The AC was used by the Reformers as one of their catechetial pillars, the others being the 10 Commandments, the Lord’s Prayer, and the Sacraments. It appears in both Luther’s Small and Larger Catechisms and the Reformed Heidelberg Catechism.

In Lutheran and other Protestant liturgical practice the AC receives more use because it is shorter and faster. (The clockwatchers ye shall always have with ye...)

Prior to the 1978 Lutheran Book of Worship (LBW) most Lutherans used the Nicene Creed only when the Eucharist was served. LBW mandated its use on the Sundays in Advent through Theophany and Lent through Pentecost because of the strong Christological statements. The AC was mandated for other seasons.

In 2005, Evangelical Lutheran Worship (ELW) flipped the practice on the basis that the AC, having its origin in a Baptismal rite, was better suited for seasons of preparation for Baptism.

Go figure...

[clintonh8r]

Lower case “c” for catholic, as in, “all embracing.”

[Hilda]

We are to refrain from vain repetitions

Jesus said that right before telling people to say the Lord's Prayer.

Jesus Himself prayed the same words three times in the Garden of Gethsemane.

Many evangelicals use "Praise the Lord" as a substitute for "hello." Is that a vain repetition?

What's the difference between saying a prayer or a creed more than once, and singing a Gospel song over and over again? The words of the songs aren't directly from the Bible, anymore than the words of the Creed. I've seen evangelicals sing the same chorus 15 times in a row. How is it different?

[clintonh8r]

I recite it daily.

[Scooter100]

But what part of the creed isn't biblical?

The 1962 Roman Catholic DAILY MISSAL, p.21 of the Creed, says about Christ, "He descended into hell,"

Big controversy on this disputed statement. It doesn't say in the Bible that he descended into Hades, or Hell, anywhere. In fact that line doesn't appear in early versions of the Creed either. Versions after 650 A.D. include it. For what it's worth, I believe it to mean he died.

I have always had questions about the "died, and was buried," part. Wasn't Christ lying in a tomb, covered in a shroud, with a large stone rolled over the entrance, protected by two guards? Why the "buried" statement? "Buried from sight" perhaps, rather than placed in a hole covered with dirt?

Proper thing not to recite it, I don't. But I assure you I believe all its overall statements of the faith.

[lightman]

In the more “enthusiastic” assemblies, something _worse_ often replaces repetition

BINGO!

"Lord we just want to this,
and Lord, we just want to that,
and Lord, we just want to some other thing."