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Every President Recited The Apostles’ Creed Except Trump, And People Definitely Noticed
Huffington Post ^ | 12/6/2018 | Ed Mazza

Posted on 12/06/2018 11:52:12 AM PST by I got the rope

People on Twitter are calling out President Donald Trump for failing to recite the Apostles’ Creed at the funeral for former President George H. W. Bush on Wednesday.

Footage from the event shows much of the church, including the former presidents seated with Trump, standing to recite the profession of faith.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apostlescreed; bush41; christians; ghwbushfuneral; idontreallycaredou; liketheyreallycare; nothingburger; opiateofthemasses; trump; trumpandgod
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To: FourtySeven

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If you’re going to recite something, let it be something found in the word!

Neither Yeshua, nor any of his apostles or disciples ever recited any creed. They preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.


141 posted on 12/06/2018 1:16:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MarMema

Yes, they do.


142 posted on 12/06/2018 1:17:18 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: oldvirginian

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Have to say the special words to be admitted to the coven!

Poor President Trump, left out again!


143 posted on 12/06/2018 1:18:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: kaehurowing

“In particular, they worship a “Spirit” (not the Holy Spirit) who is doing a “New Thing,” e.g., legitimizing homosexuality, transgenderism, polyamory, etc.”

And that, my friend, is why I am no longer a member of the Episcopal Church. I was sad to have to leave after so many years but it had to happen. I pray that one day they will see their error and repent but I’m not holding my breath.


144 posted on 12/06/2018 1:20:37 PM PST by beelzepug (Another day, another reason to grind my teeth.)
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To: Flaming Conservative
I didn’t grow up in a liturgical church, but I do not see any harm in praying or repeating scriptural writings.

Reciting scripture (if it is scripture) is one thing. Mindlessly chanting/repeating it and/or man made reformulations is another matter.

First, I read the creed text. Although it expresses many scriptural truths, it is not scripture.

Second, Jesus commands not do this:

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye:... (Matthew 6:7ff)

We are to engage the mind and spirit and formulate prayer "after this fashion". I was taught a simple mnemonic to aid in one's CONVERSATION with God: PRAY. Praise God, Receive Forgiveness, Ask, Yield to the guiding of His Spirit.

However, people repeat this prayer! Jesus just told us to use it as a model, not to repeat it.

Has language lost all its meaning?

145 posted on 12/06/2018 1:23:51 PM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: editor-surveyor

Haha yeah heaven forbid we condense our (Biblical) faith into a single Creed! How horrible!

Sure the exact words of the Nicene (or any Creed for that matter) are not in Scripture (like the Our Father or Lord’s Prayer is). But does that matter? I don’t see how it does or else we could never say “Jesus is my personal Lord and Savior”, because that exact phrase is no where in Scripture. (But its sentiment certainly is!).

Same with the Nicene. Every concept in it is in Scripture. Not word for word but the concepts surely are.

The last word is yours though; I’m out. (Don’t need 30 rounds of “my Bible ideas are right” today, really, not any day).


146 posted on 12/06/2018 1:23:51 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: BlessedBeGod

The Apostles Creed was written and adopted well before the Catholic/Orthodox split and before the Protestant Reformation, so the word “catholic” does not refer to the modern Catholic Church, but to the (more or less) united Christian religion of that time, before many of today’s doctrinal differences had hardened into distinct denominations.


147 posted on 12/06/2018 1:25:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: FourtySeven

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The faith of Yehova cannot be condensed.

It takes a book of 1000 pages to describe it.


148 posted on 12/06/2018 1:25:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: I got the rope

Please prove that every President recited the Creed. How does he know Trump did not? I have often recited the Creed to myself and not out loud. I suppose if he had sang and recited the Creed something would have been wrong there.

All of this is Absurd!!!!!!!!!!


149 posted on 12/06/2018 1:28:02 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: steve86
I don’t believe that. No one of any religion/denomination would do that.

You must be a bot, randomly responding with one-liners containing text gleaned from posts...

150 posted on 12/06/2018 1:28:43 PM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: old-ager

Only on Trinity Sunday! :)


151 posted on 12/06/2018 1:30:41 PM PST by the lone haranguer (All civilized men love peace, but all truly civilized men must despise pacifism.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"The “Apostles Creed” was never spoken by any apostle."

Nor was the phrase "the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, nor did any apostle ever refer to "the Bible."
152 posted on 12/06/2018 1:31:35 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: nonsporting
"Jesus just told us to use it as a model, not to repeat it."

That's your interpretation. Jesus did not use the word "model" to describe the prayer that he taught.
153 posted on 12/06/2018 1:34:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: editor-surveyor

Okay. And the rest of the examples I posted?


154 posted on 12/06/2018 1:36:06 PM PST by al_c (https://conventionofstates.com)
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To: I got the rope

That is nobody’s business.

I would say shame of HuffPo, but they are well beyond that.


155 posted on 12/06/2018 1:40:32 PM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: FourtySeven
12 years of catholic school and 50ish years of mass make it hard for me to change "one in being with the father" into "consubstantial with the father" which means the same thing but sounds more authentic-Aquinas.

The one that really burns me is changing "Lord, I am not worth to receive you..." into "Lord, I am not worthy to have you enter into my house..." I just can't get my mouth to express that unweildly line, no matter what I do. I screw it up every single time, then I shut up out of embarrassment. That marginally improved wording hasn't helped me.

But then, I'm that curmudgeon who think that the responsorial psalms should never be sung because 75% of the church sit there mute while in contrast almost 100% says them aloud when they are spoken. So that I might seem thoughtful and pious about it I tell myself that I feel that way because it separates us from the liturgy to make it all sing-song to the point where we tune it out. But the truth is, my church growing up never sang them so that's what it seems like how it ought to be to me. Old habits formed over decades die hard.

156 posted on 12/06/2018 1:40:49 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: GunHoardingCapitalist

Yup, especially for a $50 steak, or at least so I imagine. I don’t think I have ever eaten a $50 steak, for sure never paid for one. I guess the ketchup must help with the shoe-leather look and feel.

Freegards


157 posted on 12/06/2018 1:41:36 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: forgotten man
Trump is a Protestant. I thought that the Apostles Creed was a Catholic prayer because it says “I believe in One Holy Catholic Church.”

There's a lot of ritual I don't participate in when I go with my wife to her Catholic church. I don't understand it, I don't know it, so I don't recite it. I don't take communion there, either. When my uncle died recently, at his Catholic funeral, I actually caught crap from his sister because I wouldn't go up for communion. I'm not Catholic, and I think it's disrespectful to co-opt a religious ritual you are not baptized into.

Other's mileage may vary. Trump was probably thinking the same.

158 posted on 12/06/2018 1:42:55 PM PST by Magnatron
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To: I got the rope
Indictments were released today. She knows Trump DOJ is going after her.

I hadn't seen that. Have a link?

159 posted on 12/06/2018 1:43:01 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: I got the rope

Leave it to the rabid God-hating left to get upset when the Trumps DON’T do something religious.


160 posted on 12/06/2018 1:44:33 PM PST by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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