Posted on 11/01/2018 10:19:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Vice President Pence's asking a Messianic Jewish rabbi to pray at a political rally in Detroit ignited a controversy this week, given the Saturday massacre of 11 Jews at a Pittsburgh synagogue.
At a Monday rally for Republican Congressional candidate and Reform Jew Lena Epstein, who invited Loren Jacobs — leader the Messianic Jewish Congregation Shema Yisrael in the Detroit area and is active in Jews for Jesus — to pray in an apparent attempt to be ecumenical, the Messianic Jewish rabbi prayed openly in "Yeshua's name," which is Jesus in Hebrew and referred to Jesus as the "Messiah" while praying for the victims of Tree of Life Synagogue in the Squirrel Hill area of Pittsburgh.
Many Jews were incensed, called Jacobs a "fake rabbi," and continue to express their displeasure. Most mainstream Jewish groups do not regard Messianic Jewish believers as legitimate Jews.
Pence's spokesperson said he did not know that Jacobs was Messianic.
If elected, Epstein would be the only Jewish Republican woman in Congress.
Left-wing media outlets were most upset.
In a Huffington Post column Tuesday, historian Neil Young opined that the choice of "Christian rabbi" Jacobs was another move to maintain favor with evangelical Christians in the lead-up to the midterm elections.
"While Pence's coy use of Jews and Judaism to signal to his evangelical base is certainly not as brazen as Trump's loud siren calls to his white nationalist supporters, it may be just as dangerous. In more ways than one, Pence has provided important religious cover for Trump to conservative evangelicals, using his exaggerated righteousness to distract from the president's own louche character and shady personal life," Young wrote.
"It's grossly offensive to use another's religion, especially in such a tragic moment, to announce one's own religiosity. But what's really destructive is the message beneath the message, to both Trump's evangelical base and those who might carry out further anti-Semitic violence, that to this administration, there's only one religious faith that really counts."
Others who were upset by the Jacobs appearance and at Pence pushed back at the notion that he was hostile to Jews.
"'Jews for Jesus' is obviously false advertising. But it's wrong to depict VP Pence as somebody insensitive to anti-Semitism and Jewish concerns," tweeted political commentator and author David Frum, along with a 2017 video of the vice president helping a work crew clean up a Jewish graveyard in St. Louis Missouri that had been vandalized.
"Who thinks PENCE invited him? He was probably as surprised as anybody. And now madder than anybody, since he's wearing all over his shirt front that 99% he had nothing to do with," he added, speaking of the fallout, in a subsequent tweet.
And even some who share Pence's faith in Jesus considered the invitation mistaken, but not motivated with any ill will.
"My assumption is that it was an innocent error on his part," commented Michael Brown, a Messianic Jewish scholar and host of the Line of Fire, in a Wednesday article on The Stream, explaining that the move was indeed offensive to Jews worldwide.
"Given his love for Israel and the Jewish people, I can't imagine that he would intentionally offend American Jews," Brown continued.
Despite the politically contentious climate, the Line of Fire host believes some good has emerged.
"[T]he same demented murderer who shouted, 'All Jews must die!' at the Conservative synagogue in Pittsburgh would have the same vitriolic hatred for people like Jacobs and me. Our faith in Jesus-Yeshua has only deepened our solidarity with our people," he said.
What was the error?
A: Staff Sergeant
Q: What do you call a messianic Jew?
A: Christian
Words mean stuff.
They have the same conversations when someone needs to address the black population.
“Is this person black enough?”
So they are upset that the rabbi isn’t jewish enough. Many of us here get upset that the Pope isn’t catholic enough. Pence isn’t agnostic enough. Kennedy wasn’t Christian enough. Cat Stevens isn’t Muslim, enough. Alex Jones isn’t conservative enough. The examples go on.
This unwillingness to accept shades of grey has led to the culture we’re in now where civil war seems inevitable.
throughout the muslim world they are killing those who aren’t extreme, fundamentalist muslims. Democrats boot people who aren’t completely all the way to the left.
Do we want people to get killed ? Because this is how people get killed.
My “harrumph!” for David Frum couldn’t be bigger if I’d used my old Bose speakers from the 80’s. He’s a ne’’er-do-well, has been, who never was.
As I recall, the Pharisee's gave Jesus the same treatment.
It was a mistake. Yawn.
“...is certainly not as brazen as Trump’s loud siren calls to his white nationalist supporters...”
Not in my lifetime has “white” been used so pejoratively as today’s democrat filth are doing.
The guy is definitely a fake rabbi if that means someone calling himself a Rabbi practicing the Jewish Religion. Unless you want to start calling pastors “rabbis”, this guy ain’t no rabbi.
Of course they forget the” loud siren calls” from the purple-lipped Dracula to his Muslim Brothers during his eight year American-destroying reign.
Look. It was a mistake. But trying to say this has to do with “Jewish enough” is a bigger mistake. If you worship Jesus, you’re not practicing Judaism and therefore, not a Rabbi.
Truth is, that to those who were ‘infuriated’, they were already infuriated that there was a ‘Pubbie’ rally in Detroit, that the VeeP spoke, and that the VeeP is Roman Christian. I would wager that at least 95% of the ‘infuriated’ Jews are JINOs, secular Jews, who attend synagogue only at Passover and mostly believe that Israel should not exist as a State.
AFA these ‘infuriated Jews’, me thinks though protesteth too much. Don’t worry though, the media will very shortly throw you back under the bus!
Is a gay or lesbian rabbi a rabbi?
Undoubtably just an innocent mistake from a good man. Not to be blown out of proportion! But the mass media WILL do just that. The media loves to create dissection in our society
Most of Jesus’ disciples were Jewish. They remained Jewish, even after becoming followers of Jesus.
Because Tolerance is our...what is Tolerance again?
The name of Jesus Christ causing foaming at the mouth fury. Why Would a Jew- any professing Jew, Be incensed at that name of God’s Son? Do Jews not believe in the Trinity? They must, because they are still looking for Jesus to come to earth as the conquerer they longed for back when Jesus was actually born here, and whom they rejected- Yet the point is that They still believe in the trinity, God the father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit- So why would they be incensed when a rabbi mentions a name used for God the Son?
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God- this references the Son of God- The Word- or as Christians call Him, Jesus. Why is it so bad to pray, as directed by God’s word, in The Word’s name? In Jesus’ name? Why would the mere mention of His name, as used by Christians, bring forth such seething, foaming at the mouth hatred?
[[”Given his love for Israel and the Jewish people, I can’t imagine that he would intentionally offend American Jews,” Brown continued.]]
Simply amazing to me that Jews would be offended by the name of Christ- God’s own Son- God Himself actually (Being the Triune God)- What drives this continued hatred for God by Jews? (no need to answer).
1 Thess 2:14-16:
14For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men,
16 hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them.…
MSNBC claiming Joe Scarborough is a conservative Republican
asking a jew for jesus to pray for other jews... hmmmmm no harm no foul.
[[Not in my lifetime has “white” been used so pejoratively as today’s democrat filth are doing.]]
The word “White” has become the left’s dog whistle- anytime a lefty says the word white, white liberals everywhere wrinkle their noses at the thought of republicans who are white- and become infuriated- Yo can’t call it a ‘self-loathing, because they think they are exempt from the contempt they feel for republican whites- Thy just really really hate republican white people and think republican whites are evil, racist, misogynists- Anytime that word is used now, liberals immediately start foaming at the mouth
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