Posted on 08/29/2018 3:29:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Kudos to Father Raymond de Souza, who noticed something that the rest of us had missed. In a Catholic Herald column, Father de Souza explains how the release of the Vigano testimony affects the US bishops’ plans:
The American bishops have already asked Pope Francis to appoint an apostolic visitor to investigate the entire McCarrick matter. It is likely that the visitor, when appointed, would have interviewed Viganò in any case. His “testimony” will now be part of the material that the visitor must examine. Viganò has not provided documentation to support his charges, but has indicated where that documentation could be found—memoranda that he wrote, conversations that he had—with dates and places. An apostolic visitor, with investigative authority from the Holy Father, will have no trouble obtaining that documentation to see if it supports the charges Viganò has made.
Just let me suggest a slight revision of the last sentence there: the apostolic visitor would have no trouble obtaining documents—if an apostolic visitor were appointed. But to date, there has been no response from the Vatican to the request from Cardinal DiNardo— made two weeks ago and repeated this week—for a visitation.
““I am eager for an audience with the Holy Father to earn his support for our plan of action,” Cardinal DiNardo said this week, hinting that he might be a bit impatient for an answer. It would be easy enough for the Pope to say that he will organize an apostolic visitation, even if the process didn’t begin right away. These things aren’t organized overnight. The announcement of a plan would be a clear sign that things were moving in the right direction. To date, however, the Vatican has given no such sign.
So now, in the aftermath of the Vigano testimony—and Father de Souza’s astute observation ---is it more or less likely that an apostolic visitation will be ordered? That might depend upon how anxious Pope Francis is to uncover the truth about Vigano’s charges.
If Pope Francis answers DiNardo, the pressure builds for a real investigation. If Francis blows him off, Francis' credibility sinks closer and closer to zero.
This DiNardo vs Bergoglio match will be fascinating to watch. And DiNardo's status means the whole world *IS* watching.
Hopefully this will resolve itself to a moral resolution. I would like for Bergoglio to resign for the integrity and good of the Church but that is not likely
It’ll have to take a back seat until immigration and climate change are solved.
It sure sounds ludicrous to me ears, coming from Cupich, and I don’t think I’m all that unusual. I don’t think Pope Francis and his crew are going to get away with that kind of stalling.
Nobody's sayin that at this point, except old retired Abp. Rene Gracida of Corpus Christi.
But still: a consummation devoutly to be desired.
The pope is promoting gay crap. Not tolerating. Promoting.
A single visitor? Shouldn’t it be a group of people?
You may be right. The disorder is there on so many levels.
All the files have gone to data hell. Priests are usually incompetent, Italian priests especially. But even these know how to use a shredder.
There will be an Apostolic Visitor. Just as soon as the shredded files are all reduced to ash.
Viganò is a modern day Martin Luther of higher rank.
“The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. Sodomy craves what is entirely contrary to nature. Whence comes this perversion? Without a doubt it comes from the devil. After a man has once turned aside from the fear of God, the devil puts such great pressure upon his nature that he extinguishes the fire of natural desire and stirs up another, which is contrary to nature.”
If only we had some sort of agency that specialized in busting an organized interstate and international pedophile ring.
And if we only had a law that dealt with racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations.
Just too bad we don’t have some sort of Federal bureau that does that kind of thing.
I guess what’s an occasional finger up the wazzoo between friends?
Homosexuals have permeated the Catholic Church. They control the papacy and its infrastructure. A near majority of the hierarchy, and far too many priests are homosexual. None will resign or leave gracefully. It is their intent to reverse three millennium of Judeo-Christian consensus that rightly condemns the vile abomination of homosexual practice. At the core of homosexuality is the molestation and imprinting of young boys by perverted men. The homosexuals wish to alter Church teaching to make it compatible with the hedonistic narrative now being promoted in Western culture.
Pope “who am I to judge” Francis if he had any decency should resign. But he won’t. Faithful Catholics believe that eventually the evil will be driven out and a faithful remnant will emerge from the chaos. Most alive today will probably not live to see it, but it will happen.
The good priests out there, laboring under this horrible cloud of suspicion the perverts and gays have brought onto all of them would probably weep tears of joy to see the heretic abusers frog marched out in cuffs.
I feel very bad for those decent men and hope THEY get considered when the FBI and the Church sort this out.
The good ones should not have to fight this hard, to stop something THIS evil.
Here is what I do not understand. Why did Ratzinger leave? Was he forced out? If so, why? What is the general take of the traditional Catholics about him?
Would the church want him back? WOuld it even be possible?
Homosexuals have permeated all churches.
——Homosexuals have permeated all churches.——
All as in every church or just the RCC ?
A traditional priest told us once no way that Ratzinger could be elected. He was the closest thing we had to an ally in the Vatican. Then he got elected, and it was a victory as sweet as Trump’s that day, believe me.
I am still upset he resigned. Why did he do it? Because he saw how filthy the people were around him and he thought he was too old and weak to do anything about it.
But he did some lasting good: freed the traditional Mass, and created the Ordinariates.
“Who am I to judge” Francis has no credibility. He should dismiss the College of Cardinals and then resign.
The Vatican will ignore DiNardo. The plan is to brazen it out, with the support of the Left and its media, confident that this will peter out in a few weeks.
It won’t.
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