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Presbyterian Church in Canada Issues 'Letter of Repentance' to LGBT Community
Christian Post ^ | 03/02/2018 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 03/02/2018 9:51:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A leader with the Presbyterian Church in Canada has issued a "letter of repentance" to the LGBT community over the denomination's purported mistreatment of sexual minorities.

The Rev. Peter Bush, moderator of the PCC's 143rd General Assembly, which was held last year, wrote in the letter that "we are all harmed" by homophobia.

"No one should ever be harmed for naming their sexual identity. We live in a culture and a world where LGBT persons are bullied, brutalized and sometimes killed," said Bush.

"Presbyteries and sessions fail to hold church members and church leaders accountable for their hateful acts. For our failure to protect those attacked and brutalized, we are sorry, and we repent. For our ongoing failure to hold people accountable for abuse and hatred, we are sorry, and we repent."

Bush also said that the church "creates hurt, fear and distrust among LGBT persons who are part of the church" by both past inaction and action.

"This letter of repentance is neither the beginning nor the end; it is but a part of a longer conversation," concluded Bush. "This conversation is being taken up in part by the Rainbow Communion, a committee with the important mandate of creating a safe space where experiences of LGBT people will be told and heard."

Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson, co-host for "The 700 Club Canada," took issue with the claims of the letter regarding homophobia among PCC congregations.

"Long time church elder Don MacMillan rejected this assertion as completely unsubstantiated and contrary to his long experience," wrote Tyler Thompson in an opinion column published Tuesday by Life Site News.

"Another long-time church member, Hugh A.M. Muth, complained that he had never seen homophobia in the Church, and resented leadership apologizing for it."

Thompson also objected to the letter's focus on how churches have allegedly tried to silence LGBT individuals while ignoring gay activists' efforts to silence Christians.

"Church leaders then go on to apologize for silencing LGBT people, while apparently ignoring the fact that every day LGBT activists are busy silencing anybody that disagrees with their worldview, including Christians, by picketing and demanding they be deplatformed or fired from their jobs for speaking out on issues of religious conscience," noted Thompson.

The PCC officially defines marriage as being between one man and one woman and generally does not permit the ordination of individuals in same-sex relationships.

Over the past few years, the PCC has been undergoing a process of discernment regarding sexuality issues. At the 2017 General Assembly, the church created a committee to listen to the concerns and complaints of LGBT members.

Called the "Rainbow Communion," the listening committee promises a "confidential, safe, affirming and respectful space" for LGBT individuals "to share their experiences."

"The Committee will report to future General Assemblies and recommend concrete actions to address and respond to homophobia in the church," noted the committee


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: canada; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lesbyterian; lgbt; presbyterian
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To: donna

Not just Sodom and Gomorrah, but the Flood as well. The longer I live, the more I can see how God gets fed up with man’s depravity and evil. He gives us free will to choose His way, but too many just love depravity.


21 posted on 03/02/2018 11:09:49 AM PST by Cecily
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To: castlegreyskull
I saw “The Bible” in 1966 and it had the Sodom and Gomorrah segment. I thought, “men will never wear makeup”!
22 posted on 03/02/2018 11:13:20 AM PST by donna (Old PSA: It's 10pm. Do you know where your children are?)
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To: castlegreyskull

From a family member whose loved ones have been plaqued by desilusion and gender confusion, they know what they are doing is wrong, not an activity that God approves of, and want to find a way out.
Wish the Canadian Church would tap into the resources of God that librates and changes, transforms men’s sin and wickedness and helps people be set free of their chains.


23 posted on 03/02/2018 11:27:56 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Cecily

Thus Romans 1:18-32

People love depravity. They all too often consider wickedness to be progress, achievements to be proud of for having become so tolerant and kind rather than horrors to be ashamed of.


24 posted on 03/02/2018 11:29:10 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Chuckster

It was the same when I lived in Minnesota, near the Twin Cities. More than half the churches flew the abomination rainbow flag. I even found some country churches flying the freak flag. I wound up going to an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church.


25 posted on 03/02/2018 11:31:08 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Chuckster
>> Other choices are Catholic, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Baptist, Assembly of God, Evangelical... But I am at a loss. I won’t join a church that has two “Married” women as co-pastors or that has decided that some sins are so popular that the Lord has changed his mind about them and they are OK now. <<

Well, if you're worried about that, just an FYI: The Catholic Church has upheld chaste male-only pastors for at least 900 years, I don't think its going to change anytime soon because pop culture says its OK. They're also the most conservative church in the world when it comes to birth control. Even the most "liberal" Catholic bishops are well to the right of protestant churches with openly lesbian "bishops".

26 posted on 03/02/2018 11:40:55 AM PST by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: demkicker

WOW!


27 posted on 03/02/2018 12:11:27 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: rovenstinez

We all know when we do wrong, it is seared into our heart. Yes, these people need prayer, and help. Sending them this letter is an abomination, and that church should know better; much more so than the LBGT who refuse to believe.


28 posted on 03/02/2018 12:24:02 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: donna

I think in 20 years, this time period would look like Mayberry. It is where we are heading.


29 posted on 03/02/2018 12:24:52 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: SeekAndFind

Another church now firmly in the left’s camp, and firmly OUT of Christianity.


30 posted on 03/02/2018 12:27:00 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature. Liberals are insane. Liberals should be in strait jackets.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, gag......


31 posted on 03/02/2018 12:30:07 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: BillyBoy; Chuckster
Well, if you're worried about that, just an FYI: The Catholic Church has upheld chaste male-only pastors for at least 900 years,

Except for all the homosexual, pedo priests the Vatican has been protecting and moving around to unsuspecting congregations for decades, if not centuries.

*Chaste* priests?

Maybe some of them.

In practice the RCC is no better than those it condemns.

And *official church doctrine* is mere words, meaningless at that, if there are no actions to back up their claims.

If they'd practice what they preach, they'd have a lot more credibility.

32 posted on 03/02/2018 12:37:32 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: demkicker

Great poetry! Thank you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1531&v=vpCKU_x9REc


33 posted on 03/02/2018 1:12:40 PM PST by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: metmom

All along the road.....


34 posted on 03/02/2018 5:12:37 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: kaehurowing

Don’t be silly... what does the Holy Spirit have to do with ‘truth’ of our day? (sarc)

Soon He comes with the clouds...and every eye will see Him....

EVERY eye.


35 posted on 03/02/2018 5:15:55 PM PST by RevelationDavid (Jesus First, no matter the cost.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"No one should ever be harmed for naming their sexual identity. We live in a culture and a world where LGBT persons are bullied, brutalized and sometimes killed,"


 

A BIBLICAL Message to LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!



 
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.


Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 
 


Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Romans 1     New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
 
 18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
 

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. 


2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.

36 posted on 03/03/2018 3:53:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chuckster
In the end, he agreed but said his hands were tied because the congregation had voted to join ELCA.

Spineless wimp!


Matthew 10:33 KJV -
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.


All he has to do is to READ from the bible with NO other words of his own interspersed in his Message.

37 posted on 03/03/2018 3:56:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Just take out my few words from #36; then preach it; Brother!


38 posted on 03/03/2018 4:01:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: castlegreyskull
You know one of things that helped me come to Christ was the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Lot was warned to flee the coming wrath.

And he did; but evidently he was so tainted by his association with the folks of the 'well watered plain'; that he got drunk and 'whisky D**k' hadn't been invented yet; so the world has had to deal Ammonites and Moabites ever since!

39 posted on 03/03/2018 4:09:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the mark of the beast. Churches are taking it.


40 posted on 03/03/2018 4:25:35 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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