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What's the Big Deal with King James Onlyism? Part 1
Alpha and Omega Ministries ^ | Published on Feb 29, 2012 | James White

Posted on 11/28/2017 10:06:27 AM PST by fishtank

Sam Gipp has recorded a very nicely done video that is simply filled with errors--errors historical, errors logical, errors factual, errors biblical. Let's begin the process of setting the record straight.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; james; jameswhite; kjv
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Timeless topic - until everyone recognizes the KJV is valuable, but not perfect.
1 posted on 11/28/2017 10:06:27 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

A new “ism”? Guess we don’t have enough.


2 posted on 11/28/2017 10:07:34 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: fishtank
KJV-Only is a ridiculous theology in that it places more faith in language than it does in the Lord.

English is like any language: it changes and evolves over time. And it's unreasonable to insist that 21st century Christians acquiesce to the grammar and vocabulary of 1611.

3 posted on 11/28/2017 10:12:06 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (I don't give a damn about your feelings. Try to impress me with your convictions.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Amen.

But I’d say it’s not a “theology”,

it’s simply a mistake.


4 posted on 11/28/2017 10:15:43 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

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5 posted on 11/28/2017 10:18:49 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: fishtank

I have had more than one Fundie gag when I reminded them that the KJV was written for the Church of England...


6 posted on 11/28/2017 10:19:59 AM PST by Gman
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To: fishtank

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/169815.God_s_Secretaries_


7 posted on 11/28/2017 10:20:50 AM PST by Gman
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To: fishtank

Jesus said “Thee” and “Thou” all the time. In second grade, I saw the movie in Bible School - it’s proof. :)


8 posted on 11/28/2017 10:21:51 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: fishtank

For poetry of words you can’t beat the KJV - for study purposes I like the NIV.


9 posted on 11/28/2017 10:22:20 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: fishtank
This.
lolcat bible book

This is my Bible Version of choice.

 

10 posted on 11/28/2017 10:28:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: fishtank

I like the KJV. Very close to original Greek (yeah, there are different Greeks). Easier to memorize. Not much ‘interpretation’ by the translators, like in other ‘modern’ versions.

But I am reading in NKJV. A little different slant on some of the old english words. Makes me stop and rethink old, familiar verses.

Now, the KJV only:

Humans want security and finality.

Humans want hard and fast rules. I think this is one reason for the rise of islam in the US, prisons, etc. (Compounded by the fact that many of our civil and criminal laws are capriciously enforced, if at all.)

So, KJV ONLY! emerges as a human attempt at security, etc.

But God gave humans a set of rules, and said here you go, but I know you can’t keep them (you just don’t know that yet). So Jesus came to keep the rules, and die for us.

Humans don’t want to live by The Spirit, moment by moment, listening for God - it upsets their secure set of rules, and their own plans.

I have said that it would be easier to triple tithe than to listen to God on when and how to give. ‘Obedience is better than Sacrifice.’

And The Spirit can speak through other translations (or through an ass). It depends on the listener seeking God.


11 posted on 11/28/2017 10:31:36 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, Ipotherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: fishtank

I love the KJV! It’s the version I memorized verses from as a boy, it’s the version I used in Sword Drill, it’s the version my pastor preaches from. Part of why I still love it is the regal language. The Lord’s Prayer and many other passages don’t sound quite right in any other version. I also love that it is a connection to my ancestors because I know it’s the version my grandparents used. And it’s also the version my great-grandafather preached from. I have my great-great-great grandmother’s KJV that dates to the 1820’s.

All that said, KJV onlyism is poison grounded in so much ignorance. There is a dangerous mindset that usually accompanies it. However, a lot of well-meaning laymen simply don’t know any better. They cling to it because of their spiritual leaders.

I have primarily used the ESV for study and when I teach or preach, but last week I bought an NASB. It’s the nicest Bible I’ve ever owned. It’s an R.L. Allan NASB with a goatskin cover.


12 posted on 11/28/2017 10:32:29 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: fishtank

Kj only? What will people in Germany or France read? Chinese Christians are so bereft of opportunity.


13 posted on 11/28/2017 10:44:39 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Thanks!!!

You said:

“All that said, KJV onlyism is poison grounded in so much ignorance. There is a dangerous mindset that usually accompanies it. However, a lot of well-meaning laymen simply don’t know any better. They cling to it because of their spiritual leaders.

I have primarily used the ESV for study and when I teach or preach, but last week I bought an NASB. It’s the nicest Bible I’ve ever owned. It’s an R.L. Allan NASB with a goatskin cover.”


14 posted on 11/28/2017 10:46:21 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

It’s not bad for a 48-man English Catholic translation, Apocrypha included, but we wouldn’t touch it now with a 20-foot pole, dry oak, because of it’s lack of safeguards against denominational bias.

Besides, I want a Bible just like the Apostle Peter used! Of course, I can’t read my 1611 version because it’s in middle English, like Chaucer. So, like most people, I have to use the 1769 revision in modern English.


15 posted on 11/28/2017 10:49:33 AM PST by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
And it's unreasonable to insist that 21st century Christians acquiesce to the grammar and vocabulary of 1611

Or that the grammar and vocabulary of 1611 was that of 33 AD.

16 posted on 11/28/2017 10:57:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: DariusBane

Obviously the Germans and French need to have translations made from the King James Bible (not from the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek).


17 posted on 11/28/2017 11:07:02 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Gman

No doubt, but the Bible in English led to an explosion of sects, and oppression of them.


18 posted on 11/28/2017 11:55:55 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jim 0216

I thought it was written in the US Constitution (KJV).


19 posted on 11/28/2017 12:19:57 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Right? And a mandarin translation from kjv.


20 posted on 11/28/2017 12:49:38 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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