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WE ARE ENTERED OFFICALLY IN APOSTASIA
Ecclesiae Massonaria via google translate ^ | November 2, 2017 | unknown

Posted on 11/03/2017 11:55:48 AM PDT by ebb tide

Beginning on Sunday, November 5, in Rome, officially begins the " ecumenical Mass " a few steps from St. Peter's.

From Santa Marta, in the past few days, an unofficial "bergogliano" invitation to these communities started to "organize" (since it is their style to be pioneers of ecclesial innovations) to start with the uterans experimenting with the "ecumenical mass".

Base Communities have been organized for the most part. Meanwhile, publishing a document on the urgent necessity of Eucharistic hospitality within the Catholic and Protestant Church you find here ( http://www.cdbsanpolo.it/cartella%20documenti/Comunit%C3%A0%20di%20base%20e%20Noi % 20We are% 20Chiesa% 20sull'anno% 20luterano-1.pdf ). But that was not enough. From the document they went to action. Indeed, as of November 5, 2017, the Catholic communities will participate in the Protestant Holy Father in the Lutheran Church of Via Sicilia in Rome. They have in fact declared: " Therefore we (the Community of Base..ndr), in our little one, will come here in this church and grateful for your hospitality, to fully participate in your celebration, with you taking bread and drinking wine prepared on the Lord's table. We take this responsible decision with serenity, convinced that it is part of an irreversible journey that will ultimately bring our Churches to full theological pacification and to work together united. " Find all the information in this article ( http://riforma.it/it/articolo/2017/10/31/hospitalita-eucaristica-roma-la-comunita-di-base-partecipa-al-culto-luterano ). The term " irreversible " is still affected in this statement . Obvious. Bergoglio decided it!

In addition, as it was assumed, Lutherans would then move to the community of Base Communities to attend their Eucharist, and then approach them together with Catholics, at times not very clear.

So, even if the official text of the "ecumenical mass" has not yet been published , in the perfect bergogliano style , starts from the "base", beginning this experience, then accepting it, formalizing it, and imposing it. How was it done for communion to "divorced" divorced and Amoris Laetitia. And whoever will dare to speak about it will be marginalized, dismissed, and silenced. In the name of course of mercy.

Note that this episode should not be underestimated. The fact that two steps from San Pietro give rise to the experience of "ecumenical mass" or "intercommunion", after all the various recent Joint Declarations, is highly significant. This is the official beginning of apostasy. At the signing of Jorge Mario Bergoglio. He who has ears intends. And who has ecclesiastical authority to raise the voice, do it now. Or ever again.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: blasphemy; francischurch; trollposting
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To: Luircin; Elsie; boatbums; metmom; ebb tide
As he often does when confronted with a truth he cannot refute he posts this picture. Sad part is he doesn't even realize the significance of the passages this is pulled from.

A clear sign of defeat on his part.

41 posted on 11/03/2017 6:19:46 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

You giving us a warning?

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You may well have seen, though just in case lurkers don’t get it...

I called him out on his temper and his rancor and his hate on past threads. About 10 posts later he started accusing me of having a temper and repeating it every three posts at me.

In other words, blatant projection and it’s there for all to see and I love it.


42 posted on 11/03/2017 6:31:47 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: ealgeone

Seems that we non-Catholics know Catholicism better than most Catholics.

Sad isn’t it. Seems a lot of Roman Catholics have not read much of the plethora of writings that stand in contradiction of the New Testament...or, perhaps, in what they believe Roman Catholicism to be.

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Lately, it’s not that hard. We literally have the sum of human knowledge at our literal fingertips.

The only reason NOT to be knowledgeable about Catholic/Lutheran/Protestant/evangelical etc. doctrine on these Catholic threads is if you deliberately refuse to do five minutes of research.

Of course, a certain someone we all know proudly admits that he refuses to do research because he ‘has better things to do.’

And this is why it’s so much fun.


43 posted on 11/03/2017 6:35:45 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Oh, yes...I've seen it before. It's one of the primary reasons I often post the following:

It is usually the Roman Catholic who resorts to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them.

44 posted on 11/03/2017 6:36:11 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Luircin
I think that's what the Roman Catholic often forgets...so much of Roman Catholic writings are available now for all to see.

When these are examined in light of the New Testament we find the contradictions.

Prior to the internet this might not have been possible unless you had access to a research library and were willing to put a lot of time in to the research.

45 posted on 11/03/2017 6:38:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Luircin

Nothing this pope has said or published is excathedra and binding on the faithful being anathema for disagreement. He has stated a wide range of personal opinions some of which are not in accord with the long held dogmas of the Church. The luxury of a long, unbroken chain of Magisterial teaching is that we can discern how Francis’ sayings fit within Church teaching and disregard what is contradictory.


46 posted on 11/03/2017 6:54:02 PM PDT by Flying Circus (God help us)
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To: Luircin; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums; ealgeone; Elsie
He’s the Pope. You have to submit or no longer be Catholic.

I believe you are correct bro. I got tired of submitting to the pope, the priests and nuns. I couldn’t stop committing mortal sins. I think I must have committed a thousand mortal sins a day, and I couldn’t stop, so I thought there must be something different out there. Thanks be to God, there is spiritual truth out there, but is spiritually discerned. Only those with saving faith can understand it. Otherwise, it is gibberish to the unregenerate. 😀😆😄

47 posted on 11/03/2017 7:48:52 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Flying Circus

However, Unam Sanctum doesn’t allow that escape provision Roman Catholics love to fly to when the pope says something they don’t like.


48 posted on 11/03/2017 7:55:19 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Luircin
You HAVE to be in submission to the Pope no matter what

Well, the first necessary but not sufficient requirement for the above to obtain is that...The pope is still Catholic.

Without that, submission is not compulsory or even desirable.

49 posted on 11/03/2017 8:00:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Mark17
I couldn’t stop committing mortal sins. I think I must have committed a thousand mortal sins a day, and I couldn’t stop, so I thought there must be something different out there.

I'm not surprised.

50 posted on 11/03/2017 8:21:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Luircin

Here’s a display of your immediate temper tantrum:

“But YOU don’t. YOU have to obey them if you want salvation. And you CAN’T pick which ones to obey and which ones you can’t.”


51 posted on 11/03/2017 8:34:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
WE ARE ENTERED OFFICALLY IN APOSTASIA

And Francis is OFFICIALLY the pope.

52 posted on 11/03/2017 8:50:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
I’ve never objected to Unam Sanctum; but I do object to the current heretic in the chair of Peter.

You seem a bit judgmental.

By what authority do you claim he's heretical?

And what EVIDENCE can you produce to back up your claim??

53 posted on 11/03/2017 8:52:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Which pope? The ones who were Catholics, many of whom were saints, or a heretic?

Surely you know!

The popes who were voted into office by due process.

There is a REASON that folks watch for either white or black smoke!

54 posted on 11/03/2017 8:54:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
...some Roman Catholics decide for themselves what they chose to believe in Roman Catholicism.

PSSSSTttt...

Are not those known as Protestants?

55 posted on 11/03/2017 8:56:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Your telling a Catholic what he must do is hillarious.

Your refusal to abide by UNUM SANCTUM is downright Protestantical.

56 posted on 11/03/2017 8:57:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
For you lurkers - an understanding of what ET is saying he does not need to abide by.


On 18 November 1302, Pope Boniface VIII issued the Papal bull Unam sanctam[a] which some historians[1] consider one of the most extreme statements of Papal spiritual supremacy ever made.[not in citation given (See discussion.)] The original document is lost but a version of the text can be found in the registers of Boniface VIII in the Vatican Archives.[2] The Bull lays down dogmatic propositions on the unity of the Catholic Church, the necessity of belonging to it for eternal salvation, the position of the pope as supreme head of the Church, and the duty thence arising of submission to the pope in order to belong to the Church and thus to attain salvation. The pope further emphasizes the higher position of the spiritual in comparison with the secular order.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unam_sanctam

57 posted on 11/03/2017 9:01:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Standing by for another temper tantrum.

Go ahead and have it.

We'll wait.

58 posted on 11/03/2017 9:02:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Luircin
I’m not saying it; your own church laws say it.

Details: da debble is in 'em.

59 posted on 11/03/2017 9:03:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
And stop telling me what I have to do.

Ok; now say that to Boniface!

... the position of the pope as supreme head of the Church, and the duty thence arising of submission to the pope in order to belong to the Church and thus to attain salvation. 

60 posted on 11/03/2017 9:06:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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