Posted on 11/03/2017 11:55:48 AM PDT by ebb tide
Beginning on Sunday, November 5, in Rome, officially begins the " ecumenical Mass " a few steps from St. Peter's.
From Santa Marta, in the past few days, an unofficial "bergogliano" invitation to these communities started to "organize" (since it is their style to be pioneers of ecclesial innovations) to start with the uterans experimenting with the "ecumenical mass".
Base Communities have been organized for the most part. Meanwhile, publishing a document on the urgent necessity of Eucharistic hospitality within the Catholic and Protestant Church you find here ( http://www.cdbsanpolo.it/cartella%20documenti/Comunit%C3%A0%20di%20base%20e%20Noi % 20We are% 20Chiesa% 20sull'anno% 20luterano-1.pdf ). But that was not enough. From the document they went to action. Indeed, as of November 5, 2017, the Catholic communities will participate in the Protestant Holy Father in the Lutheran Church of Via Sicilia in Rome. They have in fact declared: " Therefore we (the Community of Base..ndr), in our little one, will come here in this church and grateful for your hospitality, to fully participate in your celebration, with you taking bread and drinking wine prepared on the Lord's table. We take this responsible decision with serenity, convinced that it is part of an irreversible journey that will ultimately bring our Churches to full theological pacification and to work together united. " Find all the information in this article ( http://riforma.it/it/articolo/2017/10/31/hospitalita-eucaristica-roma-la-comunita-di-base-partecipa-al-culto-luterano ). The term " irreversible " is still affected in this statement . Obvious. Bergoglio decided it!
In addition, as it was assumed, Lutherans would then move to the community of Base Communities to attend their Eucharist, and then approach them together with Catholics, at times not very clear.
So, even if the official text of the "ecumenical mass" has not yet been published , in the perfect bergogliano style , starts from the "base", beginning this experience, then accepting it, formalizing it, and imposing it. How was it done for communion to "divorced" divorced and Amoris Laetitia. And whoever will dare to speak about it will be marginalized, dismissed, and silenced. In the name of course of mercy.
Note that this episode should not be underestimated. The fact that two steps from San Pietro give rise to the experience of "ecumenical mass" or "intercommunion", after all the various recent Joint Declarations, is highly significant. This is the official beginning of apostasy. At the signing of Jorge Mario Bergoglio. He who has ears intends. And who has ecclesiastical authority to raise the voice, do it now. Or ever again.
A clear sign of defeat on his part.
You giving us a warning?
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You may well have seen, though just in case lurkers don’t get it...
I called him out on his temper and his rancor and his hate on past threads. About 10 posts later he started accusing me of having a temper and repeating it every three posts at me.
In other words, blatant projection and it’s there for all to see and I love it.
Seems that we non-Catholics know Catholicism better than most Catholics.
Sad isn’t it. Seems a lot of Roman Catholics have not read much of the plethora of writings that stand in contradiction of the New Testament...or, perhaps, in what they believe Roman Catholicism to be.
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Lately, it’s not that hard. We literally have the sum of human knowledge at our literal fingertips.
The only reason NOT to be knowledgeable about Catholic/Lutheran/Protestant/evangelical etc. doctrine on these Catholic threads is if you deliberately refuse to do five minutes of research.
Of course, a certain someone we all know proudly admits that he refuses to do research because he ‘has better things to do.’
And this is why it’s so much fun.
It is usually the Roman Catholic who resorts to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them.
When these are examined in light of the New Testament we find the contradictions.
Prior to the internet this might not have been possible unless you had access to a research library and were willing to put a lot of time in to the research.
Nothing this pope has said or published is excathedra and binding on the faithful being anathema for disagreement. He has stated a wide range of personal opinions some of which are not in accord with the long held dogmas of the Church. The luxury of a long, unbroken chain of Magisterial teaching is that we can discern how Francis’ sayings fit within Church teaching and disregard what is contradictory.
I believe you are correct bro. I got tired of submitting to the pope, the priests and nuns. I couldn’t stop committing mortal sins. I think I must have committed a thousand mortal sins a day, and I couldn’t stop, so I thought there must be something different out there. Thanks be to God, there is spiritual truth out there, but is spiritually discerned. Only those with saving faith can understand it. Otherwise, it is gibberish to the unregenerate. 😀😆😄
However, Unam Sanctum doesn’t allow that escape provision Roman Catholics love to fly to when the pope says something they don’t like.
Well, the first necessary but not sufficient requirement for the above to obtain is that...The pope is still Catholic.
Without that, submission is not compulsory or even desirable.
I'm not surprised.
Here’s a display of your immediate temper tantrum:
“But YOU don’t. YOU have to obey them if you want salvation. And you CAN’T pick which ones to obey and which ones you can’t.”
And Francis is OFFICIALLY the pope.
You seem a bit judgmental.
By what authority do you claim he's heretical?
And what EVIDENCE can you produce to back up your claim??
Surely you know!
The popes who were voted into office by due process.
There is a REASON that folks watch for either white or black smoke!
Are not those known as Protestants?
Your refusal to abide by UNUM SANCTUM is downright Protestantical.
Go ahead and have it.
We'll wait.
Details: da debble is in 'em.
Ok; now say that to Boniface!
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