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A Green Black Eye: Pope Refuses to Dialogue
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| September 14, 2017
| Elizabeth Yore
Posted on 09/15/2017 5:23:27 PM PDT by ebb tide
When leaders in various fields ask me for advice, my response is always the same: dialogue, dialogue, dialogue. ~Pope Francis, in Brazil
The Pope of Dialogue has thus far slammed the bronze doors of St. Peters on any dialogue on the issue of global warming. (Many Catholics argue that everything else is up for dialogue with this Pope, though).
Despite his incessant rantings about the need to dialogue, climate change is off limits. In the words of his global warming maestro, Bishop Sanchez Sorondo, climate change is elevated to magisterium, deserving of an apostolic exhortation and papal endorsement of the globalists precious Paris Climate Treaty. Francis joined the globalist cop-out chorus of the science is settled. His global warming architect, Bishop Sorondo scolds the global warming doubters saying that we need to rely on coal and oil is like saying that the earth is not round. It is an absurdity dictated by the need to make money. Sorondo also repeats the lame classic globalist slam that the deniers are funded by the oil industry.
Wake up, there is simply no dialogue with this Vatican on any issue, not endorsed by the United Nations globalists and its bureaucrats.
In April 2015, the Heartland Institute, a free-market think tank located in Chicago, which refutes the political agenda of human-caused global warming, sent a delegation of experts to the Vatican to try to present the Pope with the other more scientific view on climate change. As a member of that delegation, I saw first hand and learned that this Pope had no interest in dialoguing about man caused global warming. Francis and his Vatican had no time for the highly credentialed Heartland experts, who ranged from NASA scientists who put men on the moon to MIT scientists, climatologists and global climate science experts.
Nevertheless, Francis chose not to dialogue.
After all, Francis would rather listen to a globalist political hack, like UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon. Despite his pontificating about the importance of dialogue, the pontiffs mind was already decided having listened to population control/global warming proponents, as non scientist Jeffrey Sachs, non scientist Naomi Klein and Hans the population of the world should be only 1 billion people Schellnhuber, to name just a few. Creepily, the Vatican dialogue doors were only open to population control greenies.
One of the Heartland Delegation members, E. Calvin Beisner, founder of the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation also launched an Open Letter to Pope Francis endorsed by over 100 scientists and theologians. The Letter urged the Pope that climate change models provide no rational basis to forecast dangerous human-induced global warming, and therefore no rational basis for efforts to reduce warming by restricting the use of fossil fuels or any other means.
Nevertheless, Francis chose again not to dialogue.
A few months later, along came his rambling eco encyclical, Laudato Si, which called Catholics to a new environmental conversion and environmental spiritualism. The 191 page apostolic exhortation included a collective mish-mash of new age sentimentality, polluted with an anti capitalism rant, and faux Ehrlichian predictive catastrophes (LS#24). Francis managed to sink to an all-time theological low by calling for the reduction of air conditioners in a papal encyclical. (LS#55) You just cant make this stuff up!
Since the 2015 Heartland Delegation, the Pope has gone on his merry way issuing his Laudato Si, speaking at the UN in support of the UN Sustainable Development Goals, and the ParisClimate Treaty. Francis and Barack Obama hugged the same global warming tree and to the Popes delight Obama signed the Paris Climate Treaty.
End of the climate change debate? Hardly....
Along comes out of the deep blue sky, Donald Trump who doesnt share the Popes view on climate change and nullifies the Paris Climate Change Treaty obligations of the U.S.
The Pope is not pleased that his newly fashioned moral doctrine of man caused global warming is not shared by the most powerful man in the world. In fact, Francis seems downright irritated that his best laid plans hatched with the elite Population Control elites at the UN were stymied by this upstart global warming sceptic, Donald Trump.
Francis is turning up his rhetorical heat about the climate deniers, using hardly papal persuasion or propriety. In his most recent infamously morally treacherous 30,000 feet airplane press conferences, the Pope sounding like Paul Ehrlich, the disproved Population Bomb predictor:
To the North Pole, you could go. Its very, very clear. When that news came from a university, I dont remember from where, another came out that said, We only have three years to turn back, otherwise the consequences will be terrible. I dont know if three years is true or not, but if we dont turn back were going down, thats true.
Unfortunately for the Pope, the Heartland Institute is persistent and fearless about defending the truth and still wants to engage the Pope in a dialogue about the science of global warming. The Heartland Institutes new President Tim Huelskamp, former Congressman from Kansas, is not one to shy away from a controversial issue. Tim is used to battling for conservative causes in Congress, so he does not take lightly the scathing papal attack on scientists who doubt man caused global warming. Huelskamp, a faithful Catholic immediately responded on twitter to the papal comments:
Francis no longer enjoys a climate change free ride with Donald Trump in the White House and Tim Huelskamp at the Heartland Institute. Tim wisely decided to challenge the Popes unrelenting boast to dialogue. In a most powerful and persuasive request to the Pope, Huelskamp writes to Francis:
As a fellow Catholic, it is disappointing to hear you, once again promote the unfounded claims of climate alarmists, like Al Gore and put the enormous moral weight of your position behind bad science. This only sows confusion among many in your flock who might find it morally challenging to question the Holy Father in any matter. Since this is a question of science, not faith and morals, it is only right to offer a respectful challenge.
Dont hold your breath for an answer. Francis will respond to your offer to dialogue, as he did to the Dubia with utter silence and disdain.
Finally, Francis mused on the plane press conference about how history will judge the science of climate change:
I would say: everyone has their own moral responsibility, first. Second, if one is a bit doubtful that this is not so true, let them ask the scientists. They are very clear. They are not opinions on the air, they are very clear. And then let them decide, and history will judge their decisions.
Of this, Francis is correct. History and God will judge his decisions. In the meantime, do yourself a favor and learn from some real scientists about the truth of climate change:
https://www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/why-scientists-disagree-about-global-warming
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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: fakescience; francischurch; gblwarming; globalwarming; pilingon; trump; un
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N.B. Francis has also slammed the door on dialogue with the dubia cardinals. Both church-sanctioned adultery and challenges to the global warming hoax are off the the table with this "humble" pope.
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:23:28 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
To: dp0622
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:29:36 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
He seems very “rigid” when it comes to marxist dogma.
To: ebb tide
He doesn’t have the authority to elevate “climate change” to the level of “magisterium” any more than he can do so with his preference of soccer team or his choice of spaghetti sauce.
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:36:53 PM PDT
by
Campion
(Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
Pope Francis is “pontificating” in science and policy areas in which he has no competence, while relativizing moral norms (like the Ten Commandments) which are as eternal and universal as the Law of Gravity.
Really, he should hush, like Zachariah who received the Gift of Silence when he hadn’t anything worthwhile to say.
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:38:50 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain)
To: ebb tide
If Francis turns out to be the False Prophet, then he gets thrown ALIVE into the Eternal Lake of Fire. That should be enough, don’t you think?
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:43:27 PM PDT
by
SubMareener
(Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
To: ebb tide
How do you remove a pope? Why don’t catholics just get rid of this SJW loser?
#FakePope
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:44:14 PM PDT
by
Cubs Fan
(The republican party controls all three branches of government yet the left gets everything it wants)
To: ebb tide
Does the pope still support burning at the stake for climate change heretics (deniers)?
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posted on
09/15/2017 5:46:16 PM PDT
by
Rapscallion
(Soros still hates America. Convict him and imprison him for conspiracy and sedition.)
To: SubMareener
He’s certainly destroying the credibility of the Church. My faith has been shaken by his buffoonery.
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posted on
09/15/2017 6:24:15 PM PDT
by
CASchack
To: Cubs Fan
How do you remove a pope? Why dont catholics just get rid of this SJW loser?
#FakePope
________________________________________________________
The laity has no political mechanism for deposing a Pope. In theory an apostate Pope could be removed by a large majority of Cardinals in solidarity. That, of course, is unlikely when many (if not most) Cardinals are just as heretical in their beliefs. These are trying times for the RCC. It seems that the “Gates of Hell” have indeed prevailed against much of this once glorious denomination. This current papal regime is similar to a crime racket in the sense that money is still expected to flow up while !@#$ flows down.
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posted on
09/15/2017 6:28:03 PM PDT
by
Bishop_Malachi
(Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
To: ebb tide
Is Francis a fool or a tool?
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posted on
09/15/2017 6:38:18 PM PDT
by
gasport
(Smash the Beast - starvation takes too long)
To: Rapscallion
Does the pope still support burning at the stake for climate change heretics (deniers)?Never heard of this pope, or any of his predecessors, supporting such a thing.
Care to give us any example(s)? Or explain why you asked such an absurd question?
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posted on
09/15/2017 6:38:22 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
To: morphing libertarian
“must have”?
That’s not much proof.
Secondly, what did Anabaptists to Jews have to say about climate change?
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posted on
09/15/2017 6:50:15 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
????
So you think the pope didn’t know what the torturers were doing? The popes were the most powerful men in europe and had spy networks everywhere in a edition to the regular church communication network. So yes the “must have” known.
To: ebb tide
Furthermore, even with all the procedural precautions, there were Inquisitors who did not follow the laws of the Church and all too readily handed over a significant number of heretics to be burned alive. However, anti-Catholic pamphleteers and historians have grossly exaggerated the numbers, asserting that millions died at the stake. Though the actual numbers are far less (3000 5000), these fiery deaths were quite real and regrettable.
It is also true, sadly enough, that the Church, following the judicial customs of the day, allowed for torture as a part of the judicial procedure. The approval of torture went all the way to the top, as Pope Innocent IVs bull Ad Exstirpanda (1252) attests. However, the use of torture during judicial inquiry was not, contrary to many detractors of the Church, the invention of the Inquisition.
I’m out
To: CASchack
My faith has been shaken by his buffoonery
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Do not let a poor shepherd come between you and our Precious Lord.
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posted on
09/15/2017 7:17:12 PM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
To: ebb tide
The History channel is running a show ‘two degrees: the point of no return ‘ about “global warming”. You have to watch it to believe it.. It’s the biggest load of crap I’ve ever seen.. And they will naturally get away with their Whopper LIES. It’s Unfreakingreal!
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posted on
09/15/2017 7:28:14 PM PDT
by
DivineMomentsOfTruth
("Liberals see what they believe.. Conservatives believe what they see.")
To: morphing libertarian
“in edition”?
ROTFL.
Take a hike and bring your wikipedia with you.
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posted on
09/15/2017 7:28:16 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
The Pope is a Communist Globalist with an agenda.
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posted on
09/15/2017 7:29:53 PM PDT
by
DivineMomentsOfTruth
("Liberals see what they believe.. Conservatives believe what they see.")
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